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Ok, killing a character by fantastical means like – taking out/crushing a somewhat cartoonish glowing heart, or turning them into dust, even consuming them (in poor Peter’s case) is one thing….it’s a fantasy show, and yes, villians are gonna kill ppl.
Elaborate sword fights and the fighting/defensive skills is ‘in character’ for the purpose of the show and part of the fantasy.
Having a ‘man’ beat a helpless, defenseless woman, into unconsciousness, and proceed to try and stab her to death is not the same thing. It’s a bit too realistc.
That happens all too often in real life.
[adrotate group="5"]Agreed, however I have to consider motive. I am not so sure that his hitting Belle, while in poor judgement, was not an emotional response. If he thought she was aiding and abetting a murderer; protecting the man who murdered Milah, in his mind, she might be an accomplice. If this were real life, and I thought somebody was going to protect an evil maniac who brutally murdered my spouse, if not held back, I might be prone to hitting that person, too.
That backhand made me cringe. There is no justification for any man to beat on a defenseless woman. I could care less what his motives were. He hit a woman and that is considered a brutal act of violence. He was going to brutally murder her with his hook as well.
I’m puzzled and disturbed that so many women watched a perfect example of violence against a woman and still continue to go on about how hot Hook is.
Important to note that Milah was not Hook’s spouse; she was Rumple’s. Just more proof about what a lack of conscience and morals Hook has as he showed no regard for Rumple or young Baelfire. He took what he wanted and felt no guilt or remorse regardless of the lives that were torn apart from his actions and then left behind.
He’s a creep and I for one will be cheering the day he’s laid to rest!
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
Yes, she was RS’s spouse, but she was Hook’s significant other. Yes, maybe what they did was wrong, but that doesn’t negate what Rumple did. Belle might not have been protecting him, but I’m looking at this from Hook’s point of view. Who really loved Milah? RS was a coward before he was evil, and he is evil now, and he became the Dark One because of being a coward. The root of cowardous is selfishness; the love of one’s self before others. RS loved his marriage, but he didn’t love Milah. Hook did…and can’t come to terms with his grief. He is selfish, yes, but let’s put that on a scale according to the root of his passions.
I want to see redemption for Hook. I think that’s possible, because I see far less selfishnes in him, than I do in Rumpel. Yes, Hook does some selfish things, however it is with purpose, and he is a good chess player. Rumpel while appearing to be a fairy God mother to Emma (in the finale), is still evil, as he ever was. While she was fighting her way back, she was expendable in his mind, because both he and Regina had something to gain if she, and her mother died. I’d also like to see redemption it for Rumple…if that is possible. The truth is though, that he didn’t just kill his ex-wife. He brutally murdered her. He should be tried, convicted, and punished for what he did.
Yes, it’s always wrong for a man to hit a woman. I’m not excusing that. I just want for the viewer to look beyond the realm of numero uno (number one, the “victim”), and try to see the situation from somebody else’s perspective before joining the group of people in our world who would rather be victims; who put everything they see, even fiction on an altar with their own name on it, before remembering to think of somebody other, than themselves.
Yes, it’s always wrong for a man to hit a woman. I’m not excusing that. I just want for the viewer to look beyond the realm of numero uno (number one, the “victim”), and try to see the situation from somebody else’s perspective before joining the group of people in our world who would rather be victims; who put everything they see, even fiction on an altar with their own name on it, before remembering to think of somebody other, than themselves.
We already know Hook’s point of view. He didn’t hit Belle because she deserved it or did something terrible to him. He hit her because she was no longer of any use to him. And then he preceeded to try to kill her. We don’t really need to understand his point of view. We already saw it. He was about to commit the exact same act that he hates Rumpel for doing. Killing an innocent woman.
I understand Hook wanting to kill Rumpel, but Belle is a complete innocent in this situation.
@Cherish wrote:
Yes, it’s always wrong for a man to hit a woman. I’m not excusing that. I just want for the viewer to look beyond the realm of numero uno (number one, the “victim”), and try to see the situation from somebody else’s perspective before joining the group of people in our world who would rather be victims; who put everything they see, even fiction on an altar with their own name on it, before remembering to think of somebody other, than themselves.
We already know Hook’s point of view. He didn’t hit Belle because she deserved it or did something terrible to him. He hit her because she was no longer of any use to him. And then he preceeded to try to kill her. We don’t really need to understand his point of view. We already saw it. He was about to commit the exact same act that he hates Rumpel for doing. Killing an innocent woman.
I understand Hook wanting to kill Rumpel, but Belle is a complete innocent in this situation.
What I got from it, was that he thought she was protecting the man who killed someone who he loved. I don’t think he believed a word she said to him. If she was of no use to him, why kill her? Why not just leave? Because, he was emotionally charged, and his anger was directed at her Why? Because in his eyes, she wore a crime that was committed.
Sorry but at his core, I just don’t see a woman-beater, or a lady-killer in Hook. Maybe I give people too much credit, but I just don’t see it. Should she have it her? No. Should he have tried to kill her? No. But, put yourself in his shoes. If somebody brutally killed soembody who you love and you thought somebody was an protecting that person from justice, how would you feel about it? I’d need for somebody to hold me back.
In his eyes, Milah died for nothing. He wants justice for her.
^Are you sure? Hook literally said “So pretty, and yet so useless.” He basically said that she’s of no value to him. I think that’s why he hit her and tried to kill her. Hook is being referred to as a villain for a reason. Is he on the level of Rumpel or Regina? Heck no! But he is a villain.
I just want to say that I do love Hook. He’s one of my favorite new characters this season. A huge grin comes across my face whenever he appears on screen. 😀 But I’m not afraid to admit that he is a little twisted. But I don’t have a problem with that. That makes him even more intriguing.
@The Fairest wrote:
^Are you sure? Hook literally said “So pretty, and yet so useless….
I heard “useless” as in a term of pathetic. As in “pretty, but so evil”. She’s not evil, but he doesn’t know that she probably has no idea that RS killed somebody. I wonder how she’ll react, when she finds out he did that.
As for the term “useless”: I live in the south and here, when we call somebody useless, it doesn’t mean we can’t use them. It means the person is a low down, dirty scum bag.
@The Fairest wrote:
I just want to say that I do love Hook. He’s one of my favorite new characters this season. A huge grin comes across my face whenever he appears on screen. 😀 But I’m not afraid to admit that he is a little twisted. But I don’t have a problem with that. That makes him even more intriguing.
A lot of people feel the same way, Fairest. Look this guy up in twitter (Colinodonoghue1). The number of posts he gets is absolutely huge. There’s even a hash tag, now. His followers belong to team #hookers .
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