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@The Fairest wrote:
^Are you sure? Hook literally said “So pretty, and yet so useless.” He basically said that she’s of no value to him. I think that’s why he hit her and tried to kill her. Hook is being referred to as a villain for a reason. Is he on the level of Rumpel or Regina? Heck no! But he is a villain.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure when he said “useless” he meant that she was no longer of any use to him. He killed her because she was useless in his eyes. I think the writers made it quite clear. I know some may want to interpret it differently, but the scene was quite easy to read in my opinion.
I also really love Hook. I just hate that he hit my precious Belle. 😥
[adrotate group="5"]I didn’t like Hook even before he abused Belle.
He came off as a cocky, in love with with himself, bully with a Casanova complex.
He loved Milah – what kind of person loves and respects a woman who could just turn her back on her son and walk away from him, for her own selfish reasons – that says something about what kind of ‘person’ he is, too.
I know he’s essential to the plot, for the time being, so, I tolerate him.
But, in his case, I’m glad K&H aren’t afraid to kill off characters, with the flick of their pen, when he/she is no longer needed on the show to move the plot along.And the fact that Colin has a huge twitter following has absolutely nothing to do with anything….I’m condemning the character and his actions, not the actor.
Don’t worry. He’s still redeemable (if the writers take the effort and time to do that). No, he won’t be a missionary, but he doesn’t have to always be a bad guy. In fiction, nothing is impossible.
I love stories of people coming from out of the ashes. In my own life, I’ve known people (one person in particular), who I called horrible, and evil. Then, life experiences brought such lessons, and such grief that he did a complete 360 degree turn and is a different person today, than he was 20 years ago. Even his own son said anybody who hadn’t seem him in that long wouldn’t know that’s his father.
It really is possible for people to change.
@Gypsy wrote:
He came off as a cocky, in love with with himself, bully with a Casanova complex.
That is exactly why I love him 😀
I don’t think he needs to be redeemed. Enough already with all that redemption. He just needs to be Hook, with all the cockyness and piratess’ that is him. More of it if, I was to decide. Let him steal, let him use the people around him for his own benefit and let him seek his revenge, with as much power and passion as possible, that is what makes him delicious.Look if he was a real dude. I would probably hate his guts, but he isn’t he’s a character… so it’s aloved to love all that 😈
@SnowFallsღ wrote:
@The Fairest wrote:
^Are you sure? Hook literally said “So pretty, and yet so useless.” He basically said that she’s of no value to him. I think that’s why he hit her and tried to kill her. Hook is being referred to as a villain for a reason. Is he on the level of Rumpel or Regina? Heck no! But he is a villain.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure when he said “useless” he meant that she was no longer of any use to him. He killed her because she was useless in his eyes. I think the writers made it quite clear. I know some may want to interpret it differently, but the scene was quite easy to read in my opinion.
I also really love Hook. I just hate that he hit my precious Belle. 😥
Yeah, I was upset about that too. But I can’t be too hard on him for that. My favorite characters are Rumpel and Regina, so… 😆
I still very much enjoy Hook’s character. 😀
I still can’t for the life of me understand why people would make excuses for such a vicious display of violence. There are no excuses for it. You just don’t hit a woman, PERIOD!
You can like a villain but for goodness sake don’t keep making excuses and allowances for behaviour that is clearly wrong and unacceptable in a civilized society.
He beat on a defenseless woman out of nothing more than sheer pleasure. There is nothing to like about a character trait such as that.
It’s ok to like the actor; it’s ok to like the villain; it’s just not ok to condone or make excuses for behaviour that is totally reprehensible.
Redemption is fine for people that show remorse, accept responsibility for their actions, truly see how despicable their actions were and truly wish to turn over a new leaf. Hook is not one of them.
So please, enough of the “poor Hook and I understand why he did it” stuff. Any woman that has ever been abused at the hands of a male would have cringed at that scene.
I’m not angry here with anyone. I just couldn’t sit back while reading all this stuff and not say a word. Please just stop making excuses for an act of brutally towards a woman. It’s just not right.
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
So please, enough of the “poor Hook and I understand why he did it” stuff. Any woman that has ever been abused at the hands of a male would have cringed at that scene.
I just got out of a 2 yr relationship where i was constantly abused. However, that doesn’t mean that i “cringed at that scene” , i didn;t like what he did but it is for entertainment. I agree that what he did was wrong and if this had happened in real life, then it is unforgivable. However this is a fantasy TV show so anything can happen.
So please, enough of the “poor Hook and I understand why he did it” stuff
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I agree that there is no real excuse for Hook to harm Belle. But what i dont agree with is how people seem so focused on what Hook did, but dont care what Regina and Rumple have done. In my opinion, i think that Regina and Rumple are worse than Hook and have done way worse stuff and caused more pain. Some people say that Hook cant be redeemed, and yet Regina and Rumple can be redeemed despite causing worse harm and pain than Hook.That flashback was when Hook was in full mode revenge. It was to show his history and how Milah’s death had affected and changed him.
Redemption is fine for people that show remorse, accept responsibility for their actions, truly see how despicable their actions were and truly wish to turn over a new leaf. Hook is not one of them.
I disagree. People can be redeemed by LOVE. Regina wants to become a better person for Henry and Rumple wants to be better for Belle. Not once did Regina show remorse for what she did to Snow or for any harm she has caused to others, and that the same for Rumple. Hook is already beginning to fall for Emma- which will eventually turn into love. that will cause him to change and redeem himself.
I do understand where you are coming from and I understand why you feel that way. But it is just a TV show, if this happened in real life then it would be a different story. So if Rumple and Regina can redeem themselves, then i am 100% certain that Hook can too.
I’m mostly on board with TheGoldenKey and Gypsy
@bec wrote:
But what i dont agree with is how people seem so focused on what Hook did, but dont care what Regina and Rumple have done. In my opinion, i think that Regina and Rumple are worse than Hook and have done way worse stuff and caused more pain. Some people say that Hook cant be redeemed, and yet Regina and Rumple can be redeemed despite causing worse harm and pain than Hook.
Please, do tell; What Regina and Rumple did that was worse then hitting and try to kill a defenseless women simply because she was useless to them?
Please, do tell; What Regina and Rumple did that was worse then hitting and try to kill a defenseless women simply because she was useless to them?
Very well.
Ripping out hearts and crushing them. Rumple killing Milah right in front of Hook (I dont care if she was his wife, that was no excuse). Regina pretty much using Graham as a slave only because she felt lonely. Rumple killing Cinderellas fairy god mother just so he could take her baby for god knows what. Regina killing her own father just to cast the curse. Rumple taking Belle from her family and using her as a servant, as well as keeping her locked up like an animal. Regina locking up Belle the entire time they were in SB, so she could kill her when it would suit her.
And I can keep going but it would take WAY too long.
Now Hook:
Punching Belle and almost killing her. Ripping out Auroras heart but giving it back to Mulan.Compared to Regina and Rumple, Hook doesn’t sound so bad to me, but that is just my opinion. I do believe that Hook can be and will be redeemed.
Again, a character using theatrical, choreographed, verging on cartoonish means to kill/harm another character is NOT the same thing as watching a ‘man’ beat a woman into unconsciousness.
Using such a realistic means to portray a character and/or their frame of mind puts him on the same level as a loser abusive husband/boyfriend/father.
If my father or husband abused me and/or my kids….no, he WOULD NOT be redeemable.
That’s the difference.
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