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A part of me was really sickened with the fact that Snow and Charming found yet another way to be together for the sake of PLOT. Now all of a sudden, we can crack hearts in half? Seriously Adam and Eddy? A part of me just got a little annoyed, but I’m better because it was still a sweet gesture.
So I expect Graham to be able to come back because all he needs is half of a heart….which means #WitchHunter still could live…..
[adrotate group="5"]"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
It felt really wrong for Snow to kill David. Before tonight, I couldn’t have imagined her ever doing that. Things must have gotten pretty dire in those eight months we didn’t see, for her to even consider something like this.
Also, if she was willing to kill her husband to (get a chance to) rescue her unborn child, doesn’t that mean she loved her unborn child more than her husband? I’m not advocating baby-murder here, but I’m surprised that crushing David’s heart (which didn’t even permanently kill him) even worked. They needn’t have brought in Zelena to mess with this curse. I’d believed it if it had malfunctioned on its own!
I guess I suppose the price Snow and Charming will now pay is that they are linked with one heart and if something dire happens to one, it will also happen to the other, I don’t see that there needs to be more of a price than that if it is played out correctly.
My misgivings about the way it came about aside, I do like the idea that they’re now linked with one heart. That is pretty romantic and could be put to good use, story-wise.
The ‘hole in her heart’ thing was Regina’s personal price.
The purpose of the Curse this time was simply to take everyone back to Storybrooke, and would likely not have had any significant consequences other than Charming’s death – which is a big enough price to pay if you’re Snow – had Zelena not interfered and made the memory loss part of the package.
As an aside, this episode confirmed something that I’d speculated on elsewhere, which is that Snow and Co. had been in Storybrooke for quite a while before Emma, Hook, and Henry showed up, and, based on the chronology of things, it appears that Snow cast the Curse around 8 months after the events of “Going Home”, meaning that there’s a 3 to 4 month gap between that happening and Emma arriving on their doorstep in “New York Serenade” since we know Hook didn’t find her until a year after the events of GH.
Snow and Charming already shared feelings through their heart; when Snow ate the poisoned apple, David felt it. I’ve always wondered why their two hearts can connect. You don’t see Philora’s heart connecting.
If that had happened after the Season 2 Lake Nostos episode, I would think that the ‘Well of Wonders’ like water from it caused their hearts to merge figuratively so that that could be the reason that they could share hearts physically.
There could be a future story about why Snow and Charming’s true love trumps every other couples’ love.
I think I may have come up with a reason that the curse seems to have been able to be cast without a price being payed, it is a long shot and crosses into Wonderland territory.
It comes down to what Nyx says, “you’ve let you desire override the fates.” It is possible that if Zelena managed to get her time travel spell working in a self correcting way that everything that she as the wicked witch has done has been overriding fate. If that was the case, Zelena will be the one having to pay for the magic, as the curse was only cast as a response to Zelena breaking the laws of magic in the first place. Basically it could create a free pass system for those fighting against her.
“The truth isn't easily pinned to a page. In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap and much more difficult to find.” - Terry Pratchett
If I look at it through a lens of reality I guess I can see why so many of you are upset.
We’re not looking through a real world lens, we’re looking at it as them messing around with rules the writers have created within their own universe. To cast the Curse, one must die. All magic comes with a price, and none moreso than this particular Curse.
When constructing a fantasy universe, you need to establish rules that govern that universe, and they have done so on this show. Because it’s a foriegn universe to us, those rules are necessary to establish it as being a believable world. If you then toss those rules out the window, like they did here, your story loses credibility.
I am wondering how come neither of the Charmings realised how selfish it was to curse the entire realm to save their child. Sure, they had the right to protect their baby, but to drag everyone in the Enchanted Forest (including people from other kingdoms) into their fight? That seems close to what a villain would do (e.g. what Regina said about everything else being collateral damage).
They weren’t casting the Curse just to ‘save their unborn child’; they were casting the Curse in order to get back to the one person who could stop someone who was threatening their entire existence and the existence of every other person in the Enchanted Forest, including their unborn child.
The thing that would have set this Curse apart from the other instances in which we have seen it cast is that its sole purpose was to get them back to the ‘Land without Magic’ so that they could find Emma and stop Zelena from hurting them, their child, and everyone else; had Zelena not intervened and ‘mucked with the formula’, it appears as if the only price that would’ve been paid as a result of casting the Curse was Charming’s death, which is a significant price in and of itself.
As far as the writers’ tossing out their established rules’, I really fail to see how they did anything of the kind, particularly given that this is the first time we have ever seen the Curse cast for largely unselfish and benign motives. Sure, it was a ‘last resort’ option, but is not all that different from a police officer using deadly force to stop a violent situation and save lives.
I am wondering how come neither of the Charmings realised how selfish it was to curse the entire realm to save their child. Sure, they had the right to protect their baby, but to drag everyone in the Enchanted Forest (including people from other kingdoms) into their fight? That seems close to what a villain would do (e.g. what Regina said about everything else being collateral damage).
Not only is it reminiscent of Regina, but also to Rumple’s motivation for the Curse in the first place. I adore Rumple, I think he’s magnificent, but there’s no denying that he uprooted the lives of a whole lot of people just for the sake of his son. And while doing things for the sake of your children can be argued as acceptable motivation, you can still do things for the sake of your children without screwing up the lives of thousands of innocent people.
They weren’t casting the Curse just to ‘save their unborn child’; they were casting the Curse in order to get back to the one person who could stop someone who was threatening their entire existence and the existence of every other person in the Enchanted Forest, including their unborn child.
They needed Emma to defeat Zelena. They did not necessarily need to take Zelena to Emma, if they’d thought about it for a minute, they’d have realised that they could have looked for a way to bring Emma to them instead. That would still get Emma in the right place to defeat Zelena, without having to Curse the whole kingdom.
As far as the writers’ tossing out their established rules’, I really fail to see how they did anything of the kind,
To cast this Curse, someone has to die, you have to sacrifice the thing you love most, and in the end, no one died, no sacrifice was really made.
They invented a new rule that you can split a heart in two to bring back someone from the dead, and they did so out of pure convenience, (why haven’t we seen anyone do that before?) which just makes it a plot device to get around their own rules so they could have the Curse but not having Charming die.
They have previously shown that having someone else’s heart in your body does NOT flawlessly resurrect a person. They have shown this TWICE, with Daniel and Gerhart. According to their own rules, Charming should not be walking around just fine like he hasn’t been altered at all by having Snow’s actual heart inside him, keeping him alive.
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