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@Toothfairy wrote:
@EIreland wrote:
I didn’t know he was a series regular! That is depressing (not a huge Hook fan)….
But yes, Eddie and Adam have said many-a-time that the other actors can be in other shows/movies and *sometimes* it can be a scheduling nightmare, but it always works out in the end (i.e. Jamie came back for like a day to shoot the finale last season since he was in the UK filming a movie at the same time – he still came, shot, appeared, etc). 🙂
Depressing? I like Hook, and want him with Emma, but I wouldn’t be depressed if Neal stuck around too.
You are definitely entitled to like Hook and to want him with Emma. I dislike him… and do not want him with Emma 🙂
[adrotate group="5"]Series regular doesn’t necessarily mean for the rest of the series. Archie and August were demoted this year and I got the impression that he was only made a regular for the rest of this season. I forget the original press release, but that was the way I took it. We really don’t know how long his contract is for.
As for Neal, it’s strange that they released the Hook information so readily, but refuse to say specificially which episode Neal is returning in and how many episodes he’ll actually be in the rest of the season. They’re still so hush-hush on anything surrounding him. He’s this enigma.
If, and a big if, he’s going to be in “Fifty Shades of Grey” I doubt he’s going to be the lead. They’ve been trying to get a big name A lister to take over the role. We all know now who Colin is, but he’s not an A lister.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
Never read “Fifty Shads of Grey” (not really my kind of literature…) but isn’t the main guy like late 40s early 50s? That’s the impression I got from generic spoofs and stuff….
Colin O’Donoghue is probably too young for the role as far as I know.
@EIreland wrote:
@Toothfairy wrote:
@EIreland wrote:
I didn’t know he was a series regular! That is depressing (not a huge Hook fan)….
But yes, Eddie and Adam have said many-a-time that the other actors can be in other shows/movies and *sometimes* it can be a scheduling nightmare, but it always works out in the end (i.e. Jamie came back for like a day to shoot the finale last season since he was in the UK filming a movie at the same time – he still came, shot, appeared, etc). 🙂
Depressing? I like Hook, and want him with Emma, but I wouldn’t be depressed if Neal stuck around too.
You are definitely entitled to like Hook and to want him with Emma. I dislike him… and do not want him with Emma 🙂
I agree with Toothfairy. Just because I don’t like a character doesn’t mean I want them dead. If you don’t like Hook, fine. If you don’t like Neal, fine. If you don’t like anybody else, fine. I know it’s just a character on a tv show, but yeeeeesh! Sorry, this is just my opinion, but I think the only one out there who anybody should be wishing dead is “The Dark One”, hopefully not meaning Rumpelstiltskin. That probably won’t happen for a long time (if, at all) though. It’s kind of like Lost In Space, or Star Trek Voyager. Once they’re not lost anymore, it’s show over.
I know it’s probably a pipe dream, but I’m still holding my candle in hopes they redeem Hook, rather than kill him. I’d like to see Colin O’Donoghue stay on OUAT for a good long time. It’ll make me really sad if they don’t.
I know it’s probably a pipe dream, but I’m still holding my candle in hopes they redeem Hook, rather than kill him. I’d like to see Colin O’Donoghue stay on OUAT for a good long time. It’ll make me really sad if they don’t.
They are definately not going to kill him. Can you imagine if they did! Many fans love Hook, and the Captain Swan ship is pretty much taking over the other ships. They are not going to bump him up to series regular just to kill him off. Also they showed his backstory for a reason- because he is staying on the show.
I don’t understand why so many people think he will be killed, it just wouldnt make sense if he was.Also, Hook will definately be redeemed. People who are saying Hook can’t be redeemed and will be killed instead, I have no idea how they came to that conclusion. It’s just so obvious that Hook wil let go of his revenge, for Emma. But he doesn’t need to change, because he’s Emma’s match, all he has to do is let go of his revenge, which has blinded him for years.
I’m trying to say all of this without letting my Captain Swan feelings take over.This was a duplicate post because I got an error message but I don’t know how to delete it, just edit it… so that’s what this is all about 🙂
I agree with Toothfairy. Just because I don’t like a character doesn’t mean I want them dead. If you don’t like Hook, fine. If you don’t like Neal, fine. If you don’t like anybody else, fine. I know it’s just a character on a tv show, but yeeeeesh! Sorry, this is just my opinion, but I think the only one out there who anybody should be wishing dead is “The Dark One”, hopefully not meaning Rumpelstiltskin. That probably won’t happen for a long time (if, at all) though. It’s kind of like Lost In Space, or Star Trek Voyager. Once they’re not lost anymore, it’s show over.
Never said I wanted him dead. Just said it was depressing (to me) that he was a regular (because that means we’ll be seeing him lots and I don’t like him). That doesn’t mean dead.
Also, Hook will definately be redeemed. People who are saying Hook can’t be redeemed and will be killed instead, I have no idea how they came to that conclusion. It’s just so obvious that Hook wil let go of his revenge, for Emma. But he doesn’t need to change, because he’s Emma’s match, all he has to do is let go of his revenge, which has blinded him for years.
Could happen. I don’t see how this is obviously going to happen (i.e. I don’t see the obviousness in it), but it could – anything could happen. I sure hope this doesn’t. I don’t want Hook with Emma at all. Whether he’s redeemed or not is neither here nor there for me (I kind of like him bouncing around from side to side depending on who is offering what or what he ate for breakfast that day).
I’m personally not a “shipper” (not on this show anyways), mostly because I love absolutely everything Adam and Eddie have written for it so far and I have full trust that they will put the characters with the people they belong with – if they belong with anyone. I also don’t believe that fan outcry would stop them from killing a character they originally planned to kill (not saying they planned to kill Hook, just saying they could have, and I don’t think fans liking him will make them completely 180 their story).
I’m curious to know what “magic” Cora/Hook will retain from their journey to SB, and if it will be just as difficult for them to use as it is for Regina/Rump… until we kind of have an idea of this, I personally don’t really have any theories about what is going to happen when the show returns.
@EIreland wrote:
I agree with Toothfairy. Just because I don’t like a character doesn’t mean I want them dead. If you don’t like Hook, fine. If you don’t like Neal, fine. If you don’t like anybody else, fine. I know it’s just a character on a tv show, but yeeeeesh! Sorry, this is just my opinion, but I think the only one out there who anybody should be wishing dead is “The Dark One”, hopefully not meaning Rumpelstiltskin. That probably won’t happen for a long time (if, at all) though. It’s kind of like Lost In Space, or Star Trek Voyager. Once they’re not lost anymore, it’s show over.
Never said I wanted him dead. Just said it was depressing (to me) that he was a regular (because that means we’ll be seeing him lots and I don’t like him). That doesn’t mean dead.
Also, Hook will definately be redeemed. People who are saying Hook can’t be redeemed and will be killed instead, I have no idea how they came to that conclusion. It’s just so obvious that Hook wil let go of his revenge, for Emma. But he doesn’t need to change, because he’s Emma’s match, all he has to do is let go of his revenge, which has blinded him for years.
Could happen. I don’t see how this is obviously going to happen (i.e. I don’t see the obviousness in it), but it could – anything could happen. I sure hope this doesn’t. I don’t want Hook with Emma at all. Whether he’s redeemed or not is neither here nor there for me (I kind of like him bouncing around from side to side depending on who is offering what or what he ate for breakfast that day).
I’m personally not a “shipper” (not on this show anyways), mostly because I love absolutely everything Adam and Eddie have written for it so far and I have full trust that they will put the characters with the people they belong with – if they belong with anyone. I also don’t believe that fan outcry would stop them from killing a character they originally planned to kill (not saying they planned to kill Hook, just saying they could have, and I don’t think fans liking him will make them completely 180 their story).
I’m curious to know what “magic” Cora/Hook will retain from their journey to SB, and if it will be just as difficult for them to use as it is for Regina/Rump… until we kind of have an idea of this, I personally don’t really have any theories about what is going to happen when the show returns.
Not to be nasty or anything….just truthful:
OnceWatcher, another poster on this forum said something a while back (I had to search for it, and read the conversation to get familiar with it again). OW’s concern was that a lot of writers take their viewers for granted. Yes, the show is theirs. However….where would any show be without its viewers? Would viewers stop watching a program, if its writers tell the people who they serve, than they are worthless to them? Like it or not, there is a relationship between a show, and its viewers. What kind of a relationship is this? OW said that viewers are sometimes regarded as rag dolls. I don’t know about “rag dolls”, but I do think there is a point here. If fan outcry isn’t taken seriously, then why make decisions which are non-advantageous to a program’s success? Can these people see the forest, for the trees?
A lot of people may not remember a tv miniseries called “10th Kingdom” that aired in 2000. Scott Cohen, the actor who portrayed “Wolf” said that he still has an old worn-out pair of shoes in his closet that came from the days before he “made it” in Hollywood. His wife wanted for him to throw those away, but he said no. The reason: perspective. He wanted to remember his roots. He didn’t want to loose his humility.
I know this takes the flow of conversation off topic so maybe this debate needs to be opened up somewhere else, but I do believe this is something worth more discussion. Not just where Once Upon A Time is concerned, but about the overall health of the show/viewer relationship in general.
There is a fine line between telling the story you want to tell and giving fans what they want. You can’t please everyone all of the time. For all the people calling for Hook to stay around and be redeemed, there are also people who don’t like Hook and want him gone. Sometimes it’s not a matter of whether a character is liked or not but how best they serve the story.
Would people prefer Hook to be around for a short while and actually be involved in plots or have him around for a long while with nothing really to do?
@magic bean wrote:
It’s just so obvious that Hook wil let go of his revenge, for Emma. But he doesn’t need to change, because he’s Emma’s match, all he has to do is let go of his revenge, which has blinded him for years.
I’m trying to say all of this without letting my Captain Swan feelings take over.Why would Hook let go of his revenge that has been his main focus for centuries for a woman he’s only really known for a couple of days and who abandoned him at the top of the beanstalk?
Hook may flirt with Emma and he may be able to connect with her but it’s not enough to override his lust for revenge against Rumple.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix
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