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December 17, 2012 at 3:30 pm #165259PriceofMagicParticipant
I can’t see Hook ever letting go of his revenge-it’s not in his character. Likewise, I can’t see Rumple being content to have Hook wondering around Storybrooke especially if he considers Hook a threat to Belle. When those two have a final showdown, only one of them is going to walk away. Whether or not Hook dies or is banished to another realm remains to be seen. To have both of them happily coexisting in Storybrooke would feel forced and unnatural. A good story takes on a life of its own.
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Keeper of FelixDecember 17, 2012 at 3:38 pm #165262Daniel J. LewisKeymaster^I agree. I can’t see them peacefully living next to one another either. And since Rumpel is a main character and a driving force behind for much of the storyline, I wouldn’t be too surprised if the writers found some way to write Hook out of the show, or at the very least, lessen his presence in Storybrooke.
December 17, 2012 at 4:25 pm #165273PriceofMagicParticipantThat’s why I think Hook may be banished to another realm. He’s proved to be a popular character for many so they may not want to kill him off in case they want to use him again later. However, if Hook remains in Storybrooke, he and Rumple are going to be trying to kill each other, a plot they may not wish to drag on into other seasons.
I have a theory that the story of Peter Pan has not happened yet within the shows timeline. Perhaps Hook is banished back to Neverland where he finally encounters Peter. Hook will then reappear in another season.
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Keeper of FelixDecember 17, 2012 at 4:58 pm #165282aesopParticipant@Sarah_TN wrote:
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I agree with Toothfairy. Just because I don’t like a character doesn’t mean I want them dead. If you don’t like Hook, fine. If you don’t like Neal, fine. If you don’t like anybody else, fine. I know it’s just a character on a tv show, but yeeeeesh! Sorry, this is just my opinion, but I think the only one out there who anybody should be wishing dead is “The Dark One”, hopefully not meaning Rumpelstiltskin. That probably won’t happen for a long time (if, at all) though. It’s kind of like Lost In Space, or Star Trek Voyager. Once they’re not lost anymore, it’s show over.
Never said I wanted him dead. Just said it was depressing (to me) that he was a regular (because that means we’ll be seeing him lots and I don’t like him). That doesn’t mean dead.
Also, Hook will definately be redeemed. People who are saying Hook can’t be redeemed and will be killed instead, I have no idea how they came to that conclusion. It’s just so obvious that Hook wil let go of his revenge, for Emma. But he doesn’t need to change, because he’s Emma’s match, all he has to do is let go of his revenge, which has blinded him for years.
Could happen. I don’t see how this is obviously going to happen (i.e. I don’t see the obviousness in it), but it could – anything could happen. I sure hope this doesn’t. I don’t want Hook with Emma at all. Whether he’s redeemed or not is neither here nor there for me (I kind of like him bouncing around from side to side depending on who is offering what or what he ate for breakfast that day).
I’m personally not a “shipper” (not on this show anyways), mostly because I love absolutely everything Adam and Eddie have written for it so far and I have full trust that they will put the characters with the people they belong with – if they belong with anyone. I also don’t believe that fan outcry would stop them from killing a character they originally planned to kill (not saying they planned to kill Hook, just saying they could have, and I don’t think fans liking him will make them completely 180 their story).
I’m curious to know what “magic” Cora/Hook will retain from their journey to SB, and if it will be just as difficult for them to use as it is for Regina/Rump… until we kind of have an idea of this, I personally don’t really have any theories about what is going to happen when the show returns.
Not to be nasty or anything….just truthful:
OnceWatcher, another poster on this forum said something a while back (I had to search for it, and read the conversation to get familiar with it again). OW’s concern was that a lot of writers take their viewers for granted. Yes, the show is theirs. However….where would any show be without its viewers? Would viewers stop watching a program, if its writers tell the people who they serve, than they are worthless to them? Like it or not, there is a relationship between a show, and its viewers. What kind of a relationship is this? OW said that viewers are sometimes regarded as rag dolls. I don’t know about “rag dolls”, but I do think there is a point here. If fan outcry isn’t taken seriously, then why make decisions which are non-advantageous to a program’s success? Can these people see the forest, for the trees?
A lot of people may not remember a tv miniseries called “10th Kingdom” that aired in 2000. Scott Cohen, the actor who portrayed “Wolf” said that he still has an old worn-out pair of shoes in his closet that came from the days before he “made it” in Hollywood. His wife wanted for him to throw those away, but he said no. The reason: perspective. He wanted to remember his roots. He didn’t want to loose his humility.
I know this takes the flow of conversation off topic so maybe this debate needs to be opened up somewhere else, but I do believe this is something worth more discussion. Not just where Once Upon A Time is concerned, but about the overall health of the show/viewer relationship in general.
I remember that movie. Ironically, the characters were lost in Fairy Tale Land, and were looking to go home. That’s where Virginia (Kimberly Williams Paisley) met Wolf, and FTL is where Emma met Hook.
Being 100% about what’s on my mind, I can’t help but think whether some of the Hook hatred (not just here) might begin at squables between actors’ agents and networks because “their babies” have competition with a new guy (Colin O’Donoghue) who’s standing in their lime-light. I don’t mean just here, I mean in general. We’ll see.
December 17, 2012 at 5:00 pm #165283midnight drearyParticipant^What? Stop making everything out to be a competition. The actors are professionals and they respect each other. Not everyone is going to love Hook. And the responses from the numerous “is Hook going to die” threads are proof of that.
December 17, 2012 at 5:07 pm #165285snowfallsParticipant@Midnight Dreary wrote:
^What? Stop making everything out to be a competition. The actors are professionals and they respect each other. Not everyone is going to love Hook. And the responses from the numerous “is Hook going to die” threads are proof of that.
Ugh, thank you. If any popularity wars are being started, it’s by Hook’s fans. No one has been complaining about Hook. It’s just some people on this site keep making pointless threads complaining about how they think Hook is going to die. And yes, it’s got annoying. But when people voiced their opinions on the matter, all of a sudden, we’re hating on Hook because he’s the new guy. No one’s hating on him we’re just tired of all these strange threads asking whether or not Hook is going to die, and then some of his fans getting defensive when we ask them to chill.
No one is worried about Colin stealing anyone’s lime light. Yes, he’s the new guy, but in my opinion, the fan favorites still remain to be Rumpel, Regina and Jefferson, and of course the Charming family is well loved as well. Personally, I don’t like Hook and I think he’s bad for Emma and Henry. And I don’t like how the show made him a series regular before his first episode even aired. I’d rather see more Red and Belle than Hook at this point.
December 17, 2012 at 5:11 pm #165288oncewatcherParticipantMidnight Dreary–
Buzzsugar’s poll, other forums, and twitter make it look like Hook is a total 100% slam dunk. Not everybody likes him, so he may be an 85% slam dunk. Either way, ABC did a good job with him. He’s getting them some good ratings, great press, and a whole heck of a lot of tweets. That’s free advertising for OUAT, and just encourages more people to watch. For long as he is a productive element for them, I hope ABC will exploit the full potential this formula contains.Aesop —
Yeah, I don’t think the squabble theory is going to hold any water. Yes, show-business is “cut-throat”, and is way too weighed down with lawyers and unions. Still the same, these people are professionals (just like MD said). If anything, I’d say Sarah’s “forest-for-the-trees” thought train has more credibility than to suggest somebody is out there trying to sabotage “Hook” for their clients. I mean thanks, but I don’t thrive on conspiracy therories.December 17, 2012 at 5:15 pm #165289midnight drearyParticipantOk, we need to take a break from this thread. The original question the OP asked has already been answered, and besides, we’re getting way too overheated in here anyway.
December 17, 2012 at 5:17 pm #165290snowfallsParticipant@Oncewatcher wrote:
Midnight Dreary–
Buzzsugar’s poll and twitter make it look like Hook is a total 100% slam dunk. Not everybody likes him, so he may be an 85% slam dunk. Either way, ABC did a good job with him. He’s getting them some good ratings and great press.Yes, and if you visit any other site you’ll see that Rumpel fans out number everyone. Just visit all the “whos’ your favorite character” threads on this site alone. Rumpel comes out on top everytime. The same thing on Fan Forum, the IMDb boards, and Once Upon a Time fan forum. You can’t use one poll as a consensus for an entire fandom.
December 17, 2012 at 5:18 pm #165291Daniel J. LewisKeymaster@Midnight Dreary wrote:
Ok, we need to take a break from this thread. The original question the OP asked has already been answered, and besides, we’re getting way too overheated in here anyway.
OMG, yes. Thank you. Let’s all just take a breather from this topic. I feel like everyone has been arguing a non-issue.
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