Comic-Con Date 2013: July 20 (SPOILERS)

[runaroundmacy]

I hate all the lashing out against the writers! It happens in all the fan groups too. I joined a RumBelle thread on one of the other boards, and it’s so angsty all the time, it’s really disheartening. It’s ok to be frustrated, but being devastated is way over the top- it’s a tv show! I keep trying to calm them down and encourage them to stay positive and look at the bright side, but it seems impossible at times. A few of them in particular seem to revel in their misery. And any time people start going on and on about how Adam and Eddie don’t care about their favorite character or pairing or that they are bad writers, etc, I just want to pull my hair out!

Just had a debate about this with my best friend. She’s an avid tumbler(er) and asked me about the controversy because she doesn’t follow the show but the SQs were all over social media. She finally admitted that our show is so complicated, and convoluted that it was like, the hardest fandom ever. There’s too many devoted ships, intentional or not, and it doesnt matter if the writers have planned any lgbt characters in at this point. It will only come off as pandering because they’ve waited so long. So eddy and Adam can’t win at this point.

[kfchimera]

The fan reaction stuff is frustrating, since I can’t help but wonder that there are huge lot of fans who don’t get a voice over what they want to see.  Particularly the “non-shipper” types out there. I admit, I love the romantic sub-plots, but to me they ARE sub-plots, and the show would be the worse if A&E forgot that, and lost site of the larger theme of family, hope and fairytales  in general.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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Finally got a chance to get caught up on the last 10 or so pages of this thread. First of all…CaptainSwanFire are my real life BROT3, OMG THEY’RE ADORABLE! 🙂 Watching that MTV interview, I had a stupid grin on my face from start to finish. They’re such great friends and so dorky with the aura fluffing and whatnot, and Colin is so geeky adorable, I can’t stand how much I love them!! The other MTV interview was great too, (Josh Dallas isn’t “fangirl-ish“, he’s 100% fangirl. 😆 ), and the EW one was fun. When MRJ was leaning all over Ginny’s head I just thought they were all being so cute I wanted to reach into the screen and squish them all for how sweet they are together. Love them!! 🙂

Since Ariel will be introduced in season 3, I wonder how much involved will Ursula be in the events of Neverland. Assuming she’ll be a character on her own (hopefully!) and not a version of Regina or Rumple, I could see Peter doing all this villain stuff because of a deal he once struck with our sea witch, especially if it involves someone that’s not usually talked about in PP media, but seems to have made an impact in Peter’s life: his mother.

Traditionally Peter brings Wendy, Wendy’s daughter Jane and her female descendants because he seeks someone to be a mother to him and the Lost Boys, it’d only be natural for Once to delve into why he wants that so much. My pet theory is that he deeply loved his mother, but she was brutally taken away from him very early in his life and now he’s moving heaven and hell to get to be with her again.

I haven’t really considered that angle before, but given K&H’s penchant for family angst, how could they resist explaining PP’s mommy issues? I like your idea about her having been taken away from him, but how about for a nice twist we make it that he doesn’t know the full story of what went on. Maybe his mother made a deal with a previous Dark One that resulted in her having to hand over her first born? So he feels all abandoned and it drove him to be a nefarious little bugger, but he only has half the facts of what really happened, and we’ll see him discover those facts in present day. (Haven’t fully thought that out yet, just throwing it out there.)

I’m all up in the air about how I reckon they’ll handle Ursula. Will she be Regina? Will she be Rumple, or just someone Rumple worked with? Will the magical squid be a whole separate entity to the personification of Ursula? My preference is that Ursula be her own new character, but I just dunno which way they’ll end up going.

I’ve got to wondering, and someone on tumblr mentioned this, too, if Ariel will be able to travel between Neverland and Storybrooke. The connection between the two worlds. It would be wild and exciting.

This is what I was saying ages ago, about the water connecting the worlds. I’ve never 100% committed to the theory, but I’m justing sayin’ that they travelled through Lake Nostos to get to SB, and through SB Harbour to get to NL, and Hook also travelled through water to get between worlds (at least) one other time that we’ve seen. We’ve also seen a portal open up in the ground. Maybe there’s some physical connection of separate worlds between water and earth which is what makes travelling by portal possible at all.

Asked to foretell the future of Rumple’s ill-fated love affair with the Belle, the actor hints at the possibility of a happily

“One thing I can tell you,” he says with a twinkle in his eye, “they will meet again and they will meet in Neverland but it will not be what you expect.”

__ Robert Carlyle

Well that’s intriguing. I’m inclined to side with TeamMagicMirror, at least for right now.

SwanQueen would never have happened anyway because of the family relationship. Regina is Emma’s step-grandmother. The last thing the writers would do on a family show is promote an incestuous relationship.

Something that makes me SMH is that these people who get all riled up about this SQ stuff being ruled out by K&H, I guarantee that one of the other things that gets them riled up is the debate over K&H not representing non-biological parents as having the same significance as bio-family.

Well…Regina may not be Emma’s grandmother by blood, but if you hold the belief that non-bio family is still just as legit, (which of course it is), then yes, Regina IS a legit mother to Snow…was for a significant chunk of her life…which means that Regina IS Emma’s grandmother.

But apparently the importance of non-bio family still being true family isn’t quite as important if it would get in the way of your ship? K&H ruling out SQ because it would be incestuous, (I realise they haven’t used that word, but this is just basic facts of the family tree, and Ginny has described it as incestuous), is a vote for non-bio family still meaning just as much as bio-family, which is something EvilRegals often get up in arms about them not endorsing. I’m not saying this to be mean or anything, it just honestly does not compute in my head how you could have it both ways.

[Phee]

Here’s another little 3 minute clip, (it’s the bit where they discuss WarriorFire and Neal wanting to get back to Emma and Hook potentially being in the way):

[RumplesGirl]

Morning everyone! A few things

1) Kranen, I fixed your link so that the video embedded.

2) The hate is frustrating. Beyond frustrating. I totally 100% support a LBGT couple on Once. If I wasn’t so on Team Hookriel so hard, I had a though that Ariel might have had a falling out with Triton because she’s a lesbian instead of being in love with a human, which would be an interesting twist. But to say that just because I don’t support SQ = homophobe is uncalled for and unjustified. In my eyes it just doesn’t make sense as a ship. Yes they are both two strong independent women, but why does that automatically mean that they have to be together? And they’re family. I would rather them find a way to be mothers to Henry without it going romantic.

3) I also want Ursula to be her own character.

*EDIT*

Just watched the video Phee posted.

1)MRJ is hysterical. I am so happy he’s on the show now!

2) WHY did Neal land in FTL? Where else would he have landed..

3) “Watch it! That’s my baby’s daddy!” THE FEELS.

4) “Not with my daughter!” PapaCharming does not approve!

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[kranen]

Has this trailer been posted here yet? I’m pretty sure it was shown too.

http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/index.php/extwidget/openGraph/wid/1_mdyom14j

[Slurpeez]

Here’s another little 3 minute clip, (it’s the bit where they discuss WarriorFire and Neal wanting to get back to Emma and Hook potentially being in the way).

I loved Jennifer’s reaction to WarriorFire. “Get away from my baby’s daddy!” Lol!

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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2) WHY did Neal land in FTL? Where else would he have landed..

This comment intrigued me too. Wonder if it’s gonna be as simple as him just wanting to go home to die, or if it will be something more involved?

3) “Watch it! That’s my baby’s daddy!” THE FEELS.

4) “Not with my daughter!” PapaCharming does not approve!

I did love both of those!

Then I also loved Colin’s, “With Hook it could be with anybody’s daughter, you never know.” 😆

[kranen]

RumplesGirl wrote:

2) WHY did Neal land in FTL? Where else would he have landed..

This comment intrigued me too. Wonder if it’s gonna be as simple as him just wanting to go home to die, or if it will be something more involved?  

Maybe he thought as he was entering the portal that he needs to find someone whocan help him?

[Phee]

Has this trailer been posted here yet? I’m pretty sure it was shown too.

http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/index.php/extwidget/openGraph/wid/1_mdyom14j

That’s cool, thanks for the link! Am I the only one who gets a rush of excitement when the JR disappears under the water? I’m all, “Gimme what’s on the other side of that portal, I wanna seeeeee nooooooowwwww!”

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