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Does the step-parent/step-child relationship cease to exist when the biological parent dies? Using Rumbelle and Bae as an example again, say Belle married Rumple and officially became Bae’s step-mother. Rumple dies (heaven forbid) does that mean Belle is no longer Bae’s step-mother?
It’s a good question but I don’t know if there is one definitive answer because I think it varies case to case based on emotional attachment between all parties. So, if Rumple dies (won’t happen) would Bae and Belle still be as close as they were when Rumple was alive: in my head, yes, because that relationship wasn’t just because of Rumple. It started out as that way due to marriage, but they become friends on their own terms, not out of Belle and Rumple’s marriage. So, Snow and Regina never would have been step-mother/daughter after Leopold died because Regina hates Snow. She was her stepmother in marriage only. As soon as Leopold dies, Regina tried to sever all ties with Snow and probably no longer considered herself Snow’s stepmother. Hook was emotionally attached to Bae, whether he saw himself as his stepfather or at least father figure we’ll have to wait and see, my guess is YES.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"201330 wrote:Nobody’s denying that Hooked loved Milah, he spent 300 years trying to avenge her death, the love and affection is not the issue. I’m going to use Rumbelle and Bae as an example of my point. Belle and Rumple love each other. However, Belle is not officially Bae’s step-mother because she has not married Rumple yet. Belle’s relationship to Bae is his dad’s girlfriend. Hook loved Milah. However, because they weren’t married, Hook is not officially Bae’s step-father but was Milah’s boyfriend. Regina did not love Leopold. However, they were married which makes her officially Snow’s stepmother and thus Emma’s grandmother. Does the step-parent/step-child relationship cease to exist when the biological parent dies? Using Rumbelle and Bae as an example again, say Belle married Rumple and officially became Bae’s step-mother. Rumple dies (heaven forbid) does that mean Belle is no longer Bae’s step-mother?
And again, you’re putting the emphasis on the institution of marriage. Does raising a child without being married make someone less of a parent? Regina may have been married to Leopold, but I don’t see her as a mother to Snow. She hated her.
I think the keyword is officially. Belle would not be Bae’s step-mother officially unless she married Rumple, however Belle would still feel like a step-mother to Bae if she didn’t marry Rumple.
Hook may have fancied himself as a father figure towards Bae but Bae never saw him that way. He considered Rumple to be his one and only father.
Regina may hate Snow but Snow still loves Regina to an extent. Snow went from a young girl to a young woman before Regina killed Leopold. During that time Regina pretended to love Snow whilst Snow’s love for Regina was genuine. Snow considers Regina to still be her step-mother as seen by her conversation with Charming in Manhattan where they were trying to work out the dynamics of Henry’s family tree. That means that Snow considers Regina to be Emma’s grandmother.
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"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"She hated Snow, but Snow acknowledges her as her stepmother a few times in the series I think (like when she and David are trying to work out Henry’s family tree–she says that Regina is both his mother and his step-great-grandmother). So while I don’t think Regina considers Snow to be her daughter (or ever really did), Snow does see Regina as her stepmother.
And I agree that in general the continuance of the relationship depends upon the emotional attachments between parties. But that can be true for biofamily, too–plenty of people refer to estranged fathers as merely “sperm donors” or simply don’t acknowledge siblings with whom they’ve had a serious break. And more and more people are coming to view non-married parental figures as such, though we don’t entirely have clean labels for all those possible relationships yet.
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It’s a good question but I don’t know if there is one definitive answer because I think it varies case to case based on emotional attachment between all parties. So, if Rumple dies (won’t happen) would Bae and Belle still be as close as they were when Rumple was alive: in my head, yes, because that relationship wasn’t just because of Rumple. It started out as that way due to marriage, but they become friends on their own terms, not out of Belle and Rumple’s marriage. So, Snow and Regina never would have been step-mother/daughter after Leopold died because Regina hates Snow. She was her stepmother in marriage only. As soon as Leopold dies, Regina tried to sever all ties with Snow and probably no longer considered herself Snow’s stepmother. Hook was emotionally attached to Bae, whether he saw himself as his stepfather or at least father figure we’ll have to wait and see, my guess is YES.
This reminds me of my life a little bit, although I was an adult through all this. After my mom passed away my dad started seeing someone else. They never married but they were together almost a decade. My dad passed away, but I still talk to his girlfriend often and even go to her family’s holiday events. We all went through a lot together. She’s not technically family, but she is and always will be. So I guess what I’m getting at is that you don’t need legal documentation to make a family. I think that Hook probably does think about Bae as a being someone he has a connection with, a bond of some type that he owes allegiance to. He’s not Bae’s stepfather in name, but in his heart he may think of himself that way.
Omgosh, I think the world is coming to an end. I just had a positive thought about Hook.
On that tangent, I wonder when Snow became to be suspicious of Regina. She still had an outward appearance of liking her stepmother at her father’s funeral, but I wonder if it was a gradual thing, witnessing their marriage and what was happening or did it come on suddenly. Maybe I better go rewatch “Fruit of a Poison Tree”.
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Snow considers Regina to be her step-mother. That is shown throughout the show, especially in flashbacks. Regina at one point did care for Snow, but of course we know how that ended.
All main characters make up one big dysfunctional family. They have a love-hate relationship and are working towards one common goal: Henry. He is the center of this so called family unit.
I wonder that too. Snow knew enough about Regina to assume the Huntsman was sent to kill her. And that was like two days after the funeral. So she must have had some inkling of Regina’s true nature.
And to the earlier points. Snow’s opinion of Regina, i.e. if she sees her as a mother, shouldn’t affect who Regina chooses to be with. I see my self as RC’s best friend but I doubt he sees it that way.
I’m not intending to start a debate on this. I was just pointing out that I didn’t see the stepmother past as icky and a reason that Swan Queen shouldn’t exist.
On the SQ thing it is harsh for the their fandom do react this way. I am in support of same-sex ships but I don’t ship SQ because I believe that both of these characters aren’t gay. I think it would hurt both of these characters to put them in this ship because fans want it. Also there is so much more potential when both of these two are shipped with others. I being a Swanfire fan all the way actually think that the best ship right now for storyline is CaptianSwan.
Also most ships that we think of don’t actually occur in the show. Some times characters die, or maybe are in love with someone else. I think SwanQueen is a funny ship to joke about or write fanfic too, but remember the fans aren’t writing Once so they can’t determine what is or what isn’t going to happen in the show.
Ok now ill end my rant and talk about other things.
I could see CaptainSwan occurring because even with Hook loving Milah whose son was Bae whose son is Henry whose mother is Emma; they are not actually related. Not by marriage, not by blood, not by any standards what so ever, it would be weird and I’m sure Snow and Charming would kill Hook before letting it happen, but I could see it coming.
Also reactions to what Ive seen so far, I’m speechless. And I want to see more season 3 clip and like now. now I tell you
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And to the earlier points. Snow’s opinion of Regina, i.e. if she sees her as a mother, shouldn’t affect who Regina chooses to be with. I see my self as RC’s best friend but I doubt he sees it that way.
I’m not intending to start a debate on this. I was just pointing out that I didn’t see the stepmother past as icky and a reason that Swan Queen shouldn’t exist.
I think the step-mother past is relevant as to why SwanQueen won’t happen. Hypothetically, would you want your step-mother dating your daughter?
Snow’s opinion of Regina is important. Regina is Snow’s step-mother. Emma is Snow’s daughter. Both Emma and Regina are related through Snow. Whether Regina considers Snow’s opinion to be important or not, the relation is still there.
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