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It does suggest that MRJ might be back for the finale or something. I don’t know. Guess we’ll have to watch for him. But I can’t imagine that he can come back for a full finale or anything more than a few mins of screentime. NBC is gonna start their hype train for GOS really soon.
Of course, i just remenbered that we may see a young bae in 514, so that could be one of the ways, not meaning MRJ will be seen again, but that maybe the character may be, who knows, although have to say i would like to see a Milah/Neal scene, but maybe will be explained later that he found her there and made peace with her off screen and only needed to make amends with henry and then after talking with him he moves on.
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I think the potion might be given to Emma from Merida, who will get named dropped but not seen. I think Rumple might steal the potion from Emma after the Neal scene, take it to the Hellbrooke shop and try to recreate it to talk to Neal again, or figure out how to bring him back. That’s when Pan comes in and interrupts
That’s a good idea. Rumpel actively trying to save Neal at least would make sense.
Wonder if MRJ told Matt this at the TCAs, i mean the day before the NBC TCAs Matt said he had exclusives from ouat bc he talked with A&E, and by then the composer spoiler was out already, i think the 1st was the dorothy, so i wonder if Matt and MRJ talked about it at the NBC party besides GoS i mean.
Also is very hilarious that Ew posts a article saying neal will return, but using a interview of JMo saying that Neal would not return, lol.
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I’ll use the word I kept using when this first started leaking: it’s cruel.
It is, but the whole Neal arc has been anyway, for anyone who liked him at all.
I liked Neal, but I’m not sad that he’s gone from the show, and I’m not interested in seeing him again. He was an important part of the plot in season 2, and after the technology vs magic storyline mutated and fizzled, he lost a lot of the relevance-to-plot that I thought made him interesting.
It’s a tragedy when real people die too soon, but the tragedy for fictional people is when they stick around too long. Neal lost a lot of relevance before he died, but he would have lost a lot more if he’d stayed.
I don’t mean this as flamebait. It’s just not something I can express in the other thread where most of the Neal talk takes place.
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I’ll use the word I kept using when this first started leaking: it’s cruel.
It is, but the whole Neal arc has been anyway, for anyone who liked him at all.
I liked Neal, but I’m not sad that he’s gone from the show, and I’m not interested in seeing him again. He was an important part of the plot in season 2, and after the technology vs magic storyline mutated and fizzled, he lost a lot of the relevance-to-plot that I thought made him interesting. It’s a tragedy when real people die too soon, but the tragedy for fictional people is when they stick around too long. Neal lost a lot of relevance before he died, but he would have lost a lot more if he’d stayed. I don’t mean this as flamebait. It’s just not something I can express in the other thread where most of the Neal talk takes place.
A story is about characters and the plot should serve them. Neal wasn’t connected only to the plot in season 2 and he can’t be irrelevant when he still has a connection to a lot of characters – Rumple, Henry, Emms directly and Snow, Charming and Regina indirectly. By your logic then Regina was irrelevant after season 1 and Hook was irrelevant after season 2 and everyone was irrelevant after season 3A.
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It’s a tragedy when real people die too soon, but the tragedy for fictional people is when they stick around too long. Neal lost a lot of relevance before he died, but he would have lost a lot more if he’d stayed.
I don’t know. This sounds to me a bit deterministic. But on the other hand, the process you’re describing happened to all the other characters, and not just Neal, as the result of the show becoming increasingly plot driven, rather than character driven.
That being said, I think you can have characters that don’t take center stage in the plot, but contribute to the development of other characters, or serve as the “core” of a particular network. Structurally, I think this is what Neal was — the static core around which the show, and most other characters, orbited. To extend the metaphor, removing Neal changed the gravitational configuration of OUAT. With some stories, this works well — especially in coming of age type stories where the figure of the mentor/parent dies. I don’t think the writers were able to pull it off in this case.
But I see what you mean about the dropped magic/science storyline, and Neal’s relevance to it. That was a real shame. I think it would have made a much better S2 if they had stuck to the original idea, and then done Neverland in a following season.
If any past characters should be stuck in the Underworld due to unresolved issues, it’s Neal freaking Cassidy. But they’ll have him appear just so they can explain why he won’t be seen in any of the Underworld eps, because he’s totally at peace or some crap like that. It’s insulting to the character’s entire story, and the relationships he had, that they’re now gonna write it all off as, “Bygones.”
I liked Neal, but I’m not sad that he’s gone from the show, and I’m not interested in seeing him again. He was an important part of the plot in season 2, and after the technology vs magic storyline mutated and fizzled, he lost a lot of the relevance-to-plot that I thought made him interesting. It’s a tragedy when real people die too soon, but the tragedy for fictional people is when they stick around too long. Neal lost a lot of relevance before he died, but he would have lost a lot more if he’d stayed. I don’t mean this as flamebait. It’s just not something I can express in the other thread where most of the Neal talk takes place.
This doesn’t make any sense at all. If this was true then it would be true of all the characters. The characters are the plot, so the character connected to everyone has not lost relevance to the plot.
This doesn’t make any sense at all. If this was true then it would be true of all the characters.
In what way did my post offer an opinion on other characters?
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In what way did my post off an opinion on other characters? I offered an opinion on how a character is relevant to the plot. The plot is the characters, in my opinion, and a character that has a connection to most of the main characters on the show is relevant to the plot. I am talking about plot here, not other characters.
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