Confirmed: MRJ/Neal Cassidy In 512 (EW and TVLine)

[Keb]

I’m VERY glad that he’s back. I wish there were reason to believe he’d be back for more than just the occasional glimpse–I wanted to see him as part of Henry’s life, as part of Rumple’s and Belle’s, and yes, Emma’s, fighting against the cycle of abandonment and fighting for family.

This going to hell/the Underworld to save someone was the path that I hoped/wished for when Neal first died (there are posts in this forum from back then saying just that), and it hurts like heck to think that they’re doing it for someone else but wouldn’t for him when I feel like everyone had so much more investment in saving Neal (then, not now, obviously, since the writers have had everyone but Henry and Rumple in rare moments forget he ever existed).

It is cruel, especially if it’s used to give the characters permission to forget him/blessings for the ship that necessitated his death to sail (don’t know if they’re going that route but it seems likely enough). But it’s also necessary to the story and characters that he be addressed, and I’m glad they’re doing so by actually having MRJ present. Many mixed feelings about this, and some frustration expecting that Belle will be excluded from probably her last chance to be with her stepson.

[Rainbow]

Taking in consideration the spoilers running on Tumblr and on Twitter, because unlike @RG, @Kranen and some other people that said that they saw the episode but could not sa anything, there are fanpages of the show that got to screen the epi and actually did a live tweet of the thing, that ended being rt by fans that ended on my twiter and the same on tumblr,so i must say im not glad, bc showed me again what the writers care about and i feel sorry for many fans that think that this will be more that is, fans like @Keb that expect something and will get another. So again i repeat if what i read online from some fans is true, i say i was not happy for his return and now im even more upset by his return, bc all seems a waste of time of everyone involved and there was no need of having some secret operation in Vancouver when the scenes could have been filmed in LA and i actually have to say i regret thinking bad about someone that im not very fan, when that person was actually telling the truth.

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[PriceofMagic]

I think the main issue around Neal’s death was that it had no impact on the story. Since Nealfire was important to the story of season 1-3A, such a momentous occasion like that needed to be given the gravitas it deserved, not just forgotten about. Henry should’ve been sad that he didn’t get to know his dad for long (after he remembered), Rumple should’ve been having a crisis (He’d spent so long trying to find his son, now he had no long term goal), Emma should’ve felt something about Neal’s death since apparently for 11 years, she still held on to the thought of him. Also Neal’s death was bad for CS in the sense that Emma should’ve chosen which guy she wanted to be with. It’s damning for CS that the only reason they got together was because the other guy was taken out of the equation. Emma never actually chose Hook because she wanted to be with him, she ended up with him because her choice was taken away.

I think the main flaw of Once in terms of writing and story telling is the lack of consistency. They couldn’t bring Neal back to life or any other dead character because “dead is dead” but now all of a sudden they can hop on a ferry to the Underworld and retrieve Hook. It would’ve been a major twist if they’d killed Hook and actually had him be dead and stay dead. Nobody would’ve seen that coming.

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[RumplesGirl]

*shakes a stick at everyone like an old lady*

 

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[hjbau]

I’m not so sure this has anything to do with masculinity. The women are very strong on the show. Rumple we know is strong with magic, Charming has his sword fighting abilities, heck even Robin has his bow and arrow. And we’ve seen Belle kick some butt too. But Neal has no fighting skills. And that’s fine. Not all men need to be tough, but I just feel in a world with magic, it would be hard for him to survive because literally everyone other than maybe Henry have some sort of strength they can use. If you were ok with Neal sitting back in the background like an Archie character or a dwarf then fine. But the main players are all very strong. Neal is a strong person in his own way. But the ability to defend and fight I feel he was lacking. For me, he felt out of place in a land with magic in storybrooke.

Neal did fine with the fighting. He had a sword and a crossbow. He was no less ridiculous then Emma is with her knife or Snow has been with her bow or even Charming with his sword. Neal was shown to be no less capable because this show has never been about action fights. All of the characters flourish their weapons too much and the fights look unrealistic at best. I thought the way Neal went into Pan’s camp and had put magic on the arrow because he knew that Pan would catch it and then he would be trapped was pretty awesome.

[kranen]

I’m so glad this was announced before I watched the screener. I’m not sure if I would have been able to keep this sort of secret.

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