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February 25, 2013 at 4:32 pm #175456HappyEndingsSpectator
@slurpeez108 wrote:
“King Xavier” and “Prince Henry” could be code names used in the casting call. For all we know “Prince Henry” could be code for a young Prince George, whose father is “King Xavier.”
Still doesn’t answer the question why take over Snow’s Kingdom? ❓
[adrotate group="5"]February 25, 2013 at 4:36 pm #175457SlurpeezParticipant@HappyEndings wrote:
@slurpeez108 wrote:
“King Xavier” and “Prince Henry” could be code names used in the casting call. For all we know “Prince Henry” could be code for a young Prince George, whose father is “King Xavier.”
Still doesn’t answer the question why take over Snow’s Kingdom? ❓
That’s only a theory at this point; we don’t know if anyone sought to take over Snow’s kingdom other than Regina after she murdered Snow’s father, King Leopold. He had a separate, adjacent kingdom to that of King George. The two kingdoms of Leopold and George were later united by the marriage of Snow White and Prince Charming.
Henry Sr, believed to be Regina’s father, may never have been a royal or had a kingdom. Cora may have been married to someone else first, like King George, keeping him as a candidate for Regina’s birth father. The king may have divorced her later, and Cora married Henry Sr, a wealthy landowner with an estate.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 25, 2013 at 4:41 pm #175459RumplesGirlKeymasterSnow’s kingdom is the only option. Look at this way: Cora has a child, Regina. King George and his wife do not, instead they take Prince James (who is much younger than Regina and is the same age as Snow). Until Prince James, George’s kingdom had no heir for Cora to wed Regina off to, and by the time they got James, Regina was too old to marry the heir. The only option was Leopold, whose wife Eva died (and we’re going to see how that happened very soon!) Cora is under the impression that she controls Regina (which, let’s face it, up until Regina meets Rumple, she does). She forces Regina to marry Leopold and probably would have been the real power behind the throne even through Regina was technically “Queen”
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 25, 2013 at 4:56 pm #175463SlurpeezParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
Snow’s kingdom is the only option. Look at this way: Cora has a child, Regina. King George and his wife do not, instead they take Prince James (who is much younger than Regina and is the same age as Snow). Until Prince James, George’s kingdom had no heir for Cora to wed Regina off to, and by the time they got James, Regina was too old to marry the heir.
The other option is that Cora was married to King George at one point. She had Regina, and guessed Rumple’s name, thus keeping the child. She then willingly took the poison to become barren and so escape giving another child to Rumple. However, King George wanted a boy for an heir, and so divorced Cora and adopted Prince James. Thus, Cora remarried Henry Sr. and made sure Regina married another king, Leopold, since she believed Regina had been denied her birth-right to rule by King George, Regina’s father.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 25, 2013 at 5:04 pm #175466RumplesGirlKeymaster@slurpeez108 wrote:
@RumplesGirl wrote:
Snow’s kingdom is the only option. Look at this way: Cora has a child, Regina. King George and his wife do not, instead they take Prince James (who is much younger than Regina and is the same age as Snow). Until Prince James, George’s kingdom had no heir for Cora to wed Regina off to, and by the time they got James, Regina was too old to marry the heir.
The other option is that Cora was married to King George at one point. She had Regina, and guessed Rumple’s name, thus keeping the child. She then willingly took the poison to become barren and so escape giving another child to Rumple. However, King George wanted a boy for an heir, and so divorced Cora and adopted Prince James. Thus, Cora remarried Henry Sr. and made sure Regina married another king, Leopold, since she believed Regina had been denied her birth-right to rule by King George, Regina’s father.
In two weeks, Slurpeez, one of us will finally be right 🙂
The one thing about your theory I’m not sold on totally is the “guessing of the name.” Rumple has an odd habit of introducing himself to people, and it wouldn’t explain how Cora found out about the power of the dagger."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 25, 2013 at 5:20 pm #175467HappyEndingsSpectatorYou know I thought Cora cursed King George’s wife, but I wonder how or where King George got the potion to do the same thing to Snow since Cora was in Wonderland when he did this to Snow.
I doubt that Cora was married to King George or even divorced him. She would have to kill “”King Xavier.” Henry’s father in order to be queen not King George in my opinion.
February 25, 2013 at 11:34 pm #175516rczParticipant@NONNIE wrote:
I have a more convoluted theory…..
Cora makes a play for the elder brother who is going to be crowned KING GEORGE. But George is in love and marries someone else, even though Cora had spun gold for the kingdom. Since Cora did not get the kingdom she does not give up Regina. Cora then marries younger brother Prince Henry and has Regina. She also is the one who cast a spell on King George’s wife so she could not have children…. Thus George goes to Rumple to get a Prince for his kingdom Prince James ( the near do well) .
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.Wow! It would make so much sense, and it would be soooooooo great to see all that happening, and all the drama, and 😥 ! Loved this theory!
February 26, 2013 at 8:09 am #175577tombo671Participant@HappyEndings wrote:
@slurpeez108 wrote:
“King Xavier” and “Prince Henry” could be code names used in the casting call. For all we know “Prince Henry” could be code for a young Prince George, whose father is “King Xavier.”
Still doesn’t answer the question why take over Snow’s Kingdom? ❓
So that’s what they meant when they said Snow and Cora were enemies forever. Obviously there’s a much bigger family history then Reginas hate for Snow.
February 26, 2013 at 3:27 pm #175599SlurpeezParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
@slurpeez108 wrote:
@RumplesGirl wrote:
Snow’s kingdom is the only option. Look at this way: Cora has a child, Regina. King George and his wife do not, instead they take Prince James (who is much younger than Regina and is the same age as Snow). Until Prince James, George’s kingdom had no heir for Cora to wed Regina off to, and by the time they got James, Regina was too old to marry the heir.
The other option is that Cora was married to King George at one point. She had Regina, and guessed Rumple’s name, thus keeping the child. She then willingly took the poison to become barren and so escape giving another child to Rumple. However, King George wanted a boy for an heir, and so divorced Cora and adopted Prince James. Thus, Cora remarried Henry Sr. and made sure Regina married another king, Leopold, since she believed Regina had been denied her birth-right to rule by King George, Regina’s father.
In two weeks, Slurpeez, one of us will finally be right 🙂
The one thing about your theory I’m not sold on totally is the “guessing of the name.” Rumple has an odd habit of introducing himself to people, and it wouldn’t explain how Cora found out about the power of the dagger.Yes, we’ll see. Honestly, I’m sure I’ll be happy with whatever outcome, because Adam and Eddy are so clever with the plot.
In the traditional tale of Rumplestiltskin, the miller’s daughter had to guess the imp’s name to keep her first-born child. The title of this episode suggests the plot will at least follow that direction. Since Rumple has been around for centuries, it’s entirely possible that his name was lost to history by the time he met Cora. All of his contemporaries would have been dead for about 200 years (except for Smee and Hook, who were in a different realm). It’s possible that Rumple was only known as the “Dark One” when he introduced himself to Cora, and so she had to guess his name. That is why Cora scribbled his name in the back of her spell book. In 2×2, We Are Both, Regina reads the name in her mother’s book and summons Rumple by his name, after which he introduces himself to her. By the time Rumple meets Cinderella, Prince Charming, and Snow White, his real name was in wide circulation again.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 26, 2013 at 3:42 pm #175603RumplesGirlKeymaster@slurpeez108 wrote:
Yes, we’ll see. Honestly, I’m sure I’ll be happy with whatever outcome, because Adam and Eddy are so clever with the plot.
In the traditional tale of Rumplestiltskin, the miller’s daughter had to guess the imp’s name to keep her first-born child. The title of this episode suggests the plot will at least follow that direction. Since Rumple has been around for centuries, it’s entirely possible that his name was lost to history by the time he met Cora. All of his contemporaries would have been dead for about 200 years (except for Smee and Hook, who were in a different realm). It’s possible that Rumple was only known as the “Dark One” when he introduced himself to Cora, and so she had to guess his name. That is why Cora scribbled his name in the back of her spell book. In 2×2, We Are Both, Regina reads the name in her mother’s book and summons Rumple by his name, after which he introduces himself to her. By the time Rumple meets Cinderella, Prince Charming, and Snow White, his real name was in wide circulation again.
Hmm. You make a good point. Regina, at some point, could figure out that Rumple’s name has some sort of power over him and somehow secretly spreads his name across FTL so that everyone knows it, thus rendering that part of his legend useless.
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