Cora

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Isn’t the line “Evil isn’t born, it’s made”? Though i think it is probably a little bit of both.

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@slurpeez108 wrote:

Also, I doubt that Bae is Cora’s child, just because Bae lived centuries before Cora was born. Even if Rumple granted Cora an extra long life, it wouldn’t explain a key point. Rumplestiltskin made the deal with the miller’s daughter after he became the dark one. Bae was born before when Rumple was still just a regular man.

For the timeline to work, it’d have to be something like:
Rumple and Cora are married
Cora has Bae
Cora leaves Bae and Rumple
Rumple becomes the Dark One
Cora makes a deal with Rumple to gain magic & immortality

I could see it working, especially if it turns out that Cora got some of her powers from Rumple. That thing where she raised her hand and had the magic emitting from it was just like the power we saw Zoso use, so it’s safe to say that Rumple inherited that power, but I don’t think we’ve ever seen him use it. This could all be explained if Cora had stolen that particular power from Rumple, so perhaps they did have a previous association, such as being married, (Cora’s desire for power and status would certainly explain why she up and left someone who she deemed to be a coward).

Maybe she came back for her son, but by then, Rumple had lost him, however that ends up happening. So Cora wanted to punish Rumple for losing her son, and found a way to steal some of his powers, maybe she made some deals with him and outwitted him, and from there on learned more of her own magic.

By the same token, Regina has similar powers to those of her mother. The trick that Cora pulled with the straps wrapping up Regina is the same thing that Regina later does to restrain Maleficent. They both take out people’s hearts. They both close doors without having to use the handle. So perhaps there was a bit of history repeating and Regina stole her initial powers from Cora the way Cora had stolen her initial powers from Rumple? And perhaps it was Rumple who gave Regina the knowhow to get started. If Rumple wanted revenge on Cora for having stolen his powers, he’d certainly help out her daughter who had a motive to bring her mother down.

@snowfan wrote:

Regina seems like the unfavored second born who’s mother gave all her love to the older sibling. In this case Cora no longer has her first-born and resents Regina even more for that.

It’s a twisted kind of affection that Cora has for Regina, but I don’t necessarily see her as being unfavoured. Yes, Cora is horrible to her, treats her terribly, no doubt about that. But then Cora also wants the best for her, doesn’t want her to make the same mistakes she did, doesn’t want her to not realise her full potential, so arranges for her to marry a king. She’s setting Regina on the road to (what she considers to be) success, it’s just too bad that she doesn’t care that it’s not what Regina wants. Mother knows what’s best for her baby girl and no one can question it, (not even the baby daddy).

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One thing is for certain about Cora. She is the daughter of a miller. I do think it is possible for Bae to be Cora’s son but I think I heard from rewatching Desperate Souls the soldier suggested that Bae was not his and that he was a bastard. If Rumple and Cora were together then the scenario woulld be; they were married and she was with child at the time or she cheated on him when he went to war. He then raised Bae as his own for whatever reason. The whole Bae, Rumple and Cora connection is plausible.

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