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December 1, 2012 at 10:59 am #135491carolanneParticipant
I have been seriously considering who David’s fairytale-land identity really is, and I have come up with a theory of my own. It may sound ridiculous to many, but here goes…
I think he could be Arthur, from Arthurian legend, and I came up with this theory through a British TV series called “Merlin”, that I also watch.
In “Merlin”, Arthur is King Uther’s son, and it is revealed that King Uther was also known to have a wife who could not conceive a child, but she eventually managed through the intervention of magic. If you’ll recall, King George admitted to Snow (right before he poisoned her in ‘Lady of the Lake’), that he was once in love with a woman who was cursed so she could not bear children.
We know that King George was greatly opposed to having Snow in his son’s life (even if it wasn’t the son he raised). The same can be said of the series “Merlin”, where King Uther also strongly disapproved of Arthur’s growing affection for Guinevere. Lancelot made his appearance in Camelot, as well as in the Court of King George.
I realise my theory could be totally wrong, but these are the connections I made with both the TV series. There is also the Round Table to consider, as King George seems to have one that you could classify as “round”. It also looks like it could seat many people, as in more Knights. There are also etchings/symbols on this table, possibly representing each person who sits at it, and one of these looks to me like it could be a dragon. In Arthurian legend, the Red Dragon of King Arthur represented their allegiance to the King.
These are the similarities, coincidences and parallels that really struck me. But as I said, it’s just my theory, and I thought it might be fun to mention it. I apologise in advance if I have repeated anything that might already have been mentioned elsewhere.
[adrotate group="5"]December 1, 2012 at 12:05 pm #163094SlurpeezParticipantWe know from 1×6 that King George isn’t David/Prince Charming’s real father, so Charming isn’t even really a prince by birth. Charming and his twin brother, James, were born the children of peasants. It was only because King George and his wife couldn’t conceive a child that George made a deal with Rumplesitlskin to adopt a child, who was James, Charming’s identical twin brother. We know that James was killed in battle and that Rumple then convinced Prince Charming to take his brother’s place and to pretend to be King George’s heir. While there might be some similarities to the Arthurian legend, I don’t think David/Charming is Arthur.
Also, we know from 2×3 that Lancelot is a former knight of the round table who fell from grace over a woman (presumably for having an affair with Arthur’s wife, Guinevere). Stripped of his title, Lancelot eventually became as a sword-for-hire who was contracted by King George to capture Prince Charming and Snow White. David/Charming can’t be Arthur because he’d only just met Lancelot in that episode, and by then, Lancelot was already a disgraced member of the round table, and we know Lancelot didn’t have an affair with Charming’s wife, Snow White. Sequentially, it doesn’t add up.
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December 1, 2012 at 12:10 pm #163096ashley_2754ParticipantI watch Merlin too. But I didn’t think of that until now. He could be Arthur I mean you cought really good points. Uther also had Arthur with sorcery and King George found his son with Rumple’s help so kind of with magic. But If he is Arthur then where is Merlin?
I read Josh Dallas interview He said that we will see more about Charming’s twin brother, the real James. Maybe he was Arthur.
I really want to see Arthur & Merlin story in OUAT more then just LancelotDecember 1, 2012 at 2:13 pm #163100PriceofMagicParticipantI watch Merlin too. I don’t think Charming is Arthur because Snow is not Guinevere. Plus I don’t want Once upon a time to become too Merliny.
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Keeper of FelixDecember 1, 2012 at 9:48 pm #163134evilqueenParticipantI agree on all those similarities. I’m not convinced that our Charming is Arthur, mostly because of the Lancelot discrepancies (exactly my thoughts as slurpeez). However, it’s a good point and I start thinking that it’s Charming’s twin brother who might possibly be Arthur. it's been said that we will see more of him and explore this particular character so he must have been someone important
Also, I wouldn’t want Charming to be Arthur – as much as I can’t wait for the King Arthur and Merlin story to come to OUaT, it would be so so bad if they just made Charming to be him, it would be too easy and boring.December 2, 2012 at 1:03 am #163177MyrilParticipantDavid is David, is Prince Charming – why should he be anyone else?
The BBC show Merlin has to do with the classical Arthurian legend as much as Once Upon a Time with the Grimm’s Fairy tales collection, or even less. Not saying can’t be an inspiration, but have doubts, that the writers thought of the TV show from the UK.
In Arthurian legend Uther Pendragon slept with the wife of his former ally and then enemy Gorlois, disguised by Merlin’s magic as Gorlois. Uther attacked Gorlois because of wanting his wife. And Gorlois died that very night on the battle field against Uther’s army, while Uther pretend to be him and had his way with Igraine. To be clear: Igraine didn’t know and she was not interested at that point in Uther. And she had no problem conceiving a child. Later Igraine surrendered the lands of her husband to Uther and he married her. Merlin took Arthur to let him be raised safely away from Uther, hiding that Uther had a son.
I don’t quite see similarities to the BBC series Merlin.
In the show Arthur is Uther’s biological son. Unless Rumple played the same very bad trick on Charming’s mother as Merlin played on Igraine in the legend, Charming very sure is not King Georg’s biological son.
Okay, Igraine in the TV show Merlin and King Georg’s wife here shared the inability to conceive, and in both cases magic is used to come to an heir, but that is classical fairy tale concept (the long-wished-for child, that then is conceived because either some magical help was seeked or the magic of nature takes effect is something you can find for example in versions of Snow White and Sleeping Beauty as well).
In the TV show Merlin Uther has no round table, while in OUaT King George already has the round table in use.
In the crest of King Georg is a lion, not a dragon (and Charming doesn’t change the crest). Uther Pendragon and Arthur have a dragon in their crest (obvious why, and not just on the series).
The background story of Lancelot was already mentioned.
All this speaks against Charming’s twin having been Arthur as well.
Maybe I am biased here, because I think if they bring more of the Arthurian legend into the show, they shouldn’t do it by twisting Charmings story, I too think itwould be boring. But I’m not even keen on having Arthur, Merlin or anyone else from that tale besides Lancelot on OUaT any time soon.
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