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January 28, 2013 at 1:56 am #170287
mich7
Participant@EvilQueen wrote:
But did King George’s wife actually die? As far as I know it was something to do with her being cursed to be infertile and either getting mad or isolated… Or am I remembering it wrong?
She was cursed and could not have children…yes..that’s why they got PC’s twin from Ruth through a deal with Rumple…but she at some point she died…we have yet to see her in the show but she was definitely not around when we first meet the real James and he is killed. Like I said it’s just a theory I’ve heard floating around…lot of people think the kid looks a lot like a young Josh Dallas.
[adrotate group="5"]January 28, 2013 at 2:36 am #170297antbee
Participant@Mich7 wrote:
@EvilQueen wrote:
But did King George’s wife actually die? As far as I know it was something to do with her being cursed to be infertile and either getting mad or isolated… Or am I remembering it wrong?
She was cursed and could not have children…yes..that’s why they got PC’s twin from Ruth through a deal with Rumple…but she at some point she died…we have yet to see her in the show but she was definitely not around when we first meet the real James and he is killed. Like I said it’s just a theory I’ve heard floating around…lot of people think the kid looks a lot like a young Josh Dallas.
Yes, I’m not sure who the little boy is at this point. I’ve read good theories for him being young Rumple, young Hook, and now young James.
To me he looks more like Josh Dallas because of his hair color; although, I know hair color can change as people age. Plus, if Jamie Dornan returns this episode in flashbacks, I’m not sure how that’s going to connect to Hook at all. While James and Charming seem to be around the same age as Graham, I could see it working that he’s actually older than they are, and the flashbacks showing that he met a young James.
January 28, 2013 at 11:33 am #170323Phee
Participant@AntBee wrote:
Plus, if Jamie Dornan returns this episode in flashbacks, I’m not sure how that’s going to connect to Hook at all. While James and Charming seem to be around the same age as Graham, I could see it working that he’s actually older than they are, and the flashbacks showing that he met a young James.
The Huntsman can definitely be linked to Charming flashbacks better than he could be to Hook flashbacks. Dunno that I could buy there being that much of an age difference between them that Huntsman could have met YoungJames though. I guess they could de-age the Huntsman a bit, have him be a teen meeting tween YoungJames. That set pic of Jamie still has him scruffy though, and the best way to make him look younger would be to have him clean shaven.
They could always show flashbacks to when James was a kid, and then later in the ep have the flashbacks being to the time when he (and Charming) was an adult instead. Then they could work the Huntsman in easily.
Now, the question is, could this guy…
…pass for a young Alan Dale?
I’d say yes.January 28, 2013 at 12:58 pm #170325mich7
Participant@Phee wrote:
They could always show flashbacks to when James was a kid, and then later in the ep have the flashbacks being to the time when he (and Charming) was an adult instead. Then they could work the Huntsman in easily.
Now, the question is, could this guy…
…pass for a young Alan Dale?
I’d say yes.You’re right about that…they could easily make that work…no one said the kid had to be in the whole flashback….just look at the Crocodile…young Bae was only in one scene. and I can see from your two pics where they could pass for one another, but if they are going to try and get me to like King George at this point they are going to have to dig deep…lol…and watch them do it. 😉 😆
January 28, 2013 at 1:10 pm #170330toothfairy
ParticipantI think this is definitely a young Hook. Something the people who produce this show have a talent for, is choosing people with similar physical characteristics to fill roles associated with fictional relatives. I see a lot of physical similarities between this little boy (how cute!) with the man who is supposed to play his father. Have you see Colin O’Donoghue’s lips in comparrison to the “Dad”? And with the little boy, there are those sparkling blue eyes, and the way those eyebrows are shaped. That little kid is adorable, and I think this will be a great episode.
I know it might sound silly me using physical appearance as the basis for my theory, but think about it. Anybody seen Bailey Maddison in comparrison to Gennifer Goodwin? Then, there’s Gennifer Goodwin, versus Jennifer Morrison! This can’t be by accident. When I saw Bailey and Gennifer’s pictures side-by-side I literally gasped.
January 28, 2013 at 1:33 pm #170334mich7
ParticipantHere’s a different picture of the kid (hair’s a little darker in this one…of course that can be changed one way or another).
Colin:
Josh:
So I guess everyone can make up there own minds as to who they think he is.
January 28, 2013 at 1:34 pm #170335antbee
Participant@Toothfairy wrote:
I think this is definitely a young Hook. Something the people who produce this show have a talent for, is choosing people with similar physical characteristics to fill roles associated with fictional relatives. I see a lot of physical similarities between this little boy (how cute!) with the man who is supposed to play his father. Have you see Colin O’Donoghue’s lips in comparrison to the “Dad”? And with the little boy, there are those sparkling blue eyes, and the way those eyebrows are shaped. That little kid is adorable, and I think this will be a great episode.
I know it might sound silly me using physical appearance as the basis for my theory, but think about it. Anybody seen Bailey Maddison in comparrison to Gennifer Goodwin? Then, there’s Gennifer Goodwin, versus Jennifer Morrison! This can’t be by accident. When I saw Bailey and Gennifer’s pictures side-by-side I literally gasped.
I think that Benjamin Stockham looks more like Josh Dallas though than Colin O’Donoghue. A person’s hair color can certainly can darker as they age, but his hair looks exactly the same color as Dallas’s hair while O’Donoghue’s hair is very dark. However, he could certainly pass for both, so either way I think the casting department did a good job again unlike with the Pinocchio fiasco.
As for John Pyper-Ferguson, to me he looks more like a young Alan Dale without his scruff than he does Colin O’Donoghue now that I’ve actually seen a younger looking Alan Dale picture next to a picture of John Pyper-Ferguson without having too much facial hair. (Thanks to Phee for posting both their pictures.)
I’m guessing if they are giving the rest of King George’s back story this episode to make him seem more sympathetic, it’s likely that he finally dies. Unless they redeem King George or continue to have him be a villain, both of which seem unlikely to me at this point, at this point in the series, it might be a good idea to have him die or be killed in some way.
I know at around this point last year they did explore the back story of Pinocchio, so it’s possible that they could do the same for Hook. I just think it’s easier to fit in Graham to King George’s story then it is to connect him Hook. I know they did it with Hook, Belle, Regina, and Cora, but I’d rather they just have two different story lines going on with Storybrooke and the flashbacks to fairy tale land instead of possibly trying to have three story lines with Storybrooke, flashbacks to fairy tale land with an adult Hook, and then flashbacks to fairy tale land with Hook as a little boy. Even if both flashback timelines might be Hook-centric, unfortunately this show just doesn’t do a great job when it has to balance three different main stories.
Here’s a picture of Alan Dale with hair!
January 28, 2013 at 4:10 pm #170341obisgirl
Participant@Mich7 wrote:
@obisgirl wrote:
But Ruth didn’t die when Shepherd James was young. That didn’t happen until much later after he had become engaged to Snow.
King George’s wife…the mother of the real Prince James (PC’s Twin)…not Ruth who raised PC.
Oh.
@Mich7 wrote:
Here’s a different picture of the kid (hair’s a little darker in this one…of course that can be changed one way or another).
Colin:
Josh:
So I guess everyone can make up there own minds as to who they think he is.
Hmmm. Both actors they casted are American actors — I guess they could be a young Charming and King George, otherwise if the boy was a young Hook, I think it would have been easier to cast a kid from Ireland, or British actors for Hook’s dad and a younger version of him.
January 28, 2013 at 4:32 pm #170345Phee
Participant@obisgirl wrote:
Hmmm. Both actors they casted are American actors — I guess they could be a young Charming and King George, otherwise if the boy was a young Hook, I think it would have been easier to cast a kid from Ireland, or British actors for Hook’s dad and a younger version of him.
Excellent point! They’d hardly get an American kid to fake a Brit accent. Adult actors have enough trouble with that, so they couldn’t expect a kid to be able to master it. I actually think he looks more like Colin than he does Josh, but given the accent thing, I’d say he’s gotta be a young James and/or Charming.
January 28, 2013 at 4:38 pm #170346mich7
Participant@obisgirl wrote:
Hmmm. Both actors they casted are American actors — I guess they could be a young Charming and King George, otherwise if the boy was a young Hook, I think it would have been easier to cast a kid from Ireland, or British actors for Hook’s dad and a younger version of him.
Lol…I guess I’ll have to go with that…I’ve looked and looked and I can see resemblances to both Colin and Josh. Sweet looking kid either way.
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