Couples That Have True Love

[midnight dreary]

But didn’t Cora say that she had to make a ton of deals in order to gain what she had? And since it’s been confirmed that Cora is the original miller’s daughter, something tells me that she made those deals with Rumpel. The only thing of any real value that she possesses is magic. Yes, she a large estate and lots money, but Cora said herself, power is the only thing that lasts. I think she made a deal with Rumpel to gain her powers.

And I think killing someone powerful in order to obtain their powers only applies to the Dark One. What about the fairies? What about Jefferson? And what about Emma’s magic? She didn’t have to kill anyone to gain her magic. So far, the only person who had to kill in order to obtain their powers was Rumpel. I think that’s a trait that only applies to the Dark One.

[hjbau]

Well it hasn’t technically been confirmed that she is the original millers daughter for Rumpel’s story. It has been very strongly suggested though and that has to be where they are going, but i wouldn’t say it has been confirmed.

I totally agree thought that it seems they are suggesting Cora made a deal, something that cost her dearly, in exchange for riches and magical power.

[eternalflame]

I also subscribe to the true love theory. Magic in this world has to have a catch. It has to have specific rules. It has to have limitations. Especially given the fact that this isn’t any ordinary type of magic. This is the magic of true love. It’s users must posses certain characteristics in order to use it. We’ve already seen evidence of this. Rumpel could only make the true love potion when Snow and Charming were in love. He needed their love in order to make the potion. So the users or “test subjects” need to be in love in order to create the magic of true love. That is the key ingrediant.

The same goes for true love’s kiss. The magic can only work unless the two lovers are truly in love. We’ve seen this numerous times with Snow and Charming, Belle and Rumpel, Emma and Henry, and the creation of the true love potion. You can’t just use the magic of true love, or create the magic of true love if its users are not truly in love. That will be the catch.

[lilred]

Before I joined the site, I remember someone stated in a forum the possibility that Henry is the newest link in a cycle of true love. I’m currently looking through old posts, and hopefully can give this person credit later on. The idea was that Ruth and her husband were each other’s true love and had Charming. King Leopold and Snow’s mother had true love and made Snow. Then the products of true love meet, we’re each other’s true love, and made Emma. If Henry’s dad does turn out to be Emma’s true love, Henry has generations of true love behind him, and if magic is fueled by true love in this world, Henry could probably be very powerful (but in need of training.)

[Josephine]

That might be me. *raises hand* I had to go searching for it, but I remembered writing a big long thing about it and posting here and at Fanforum. They weren’t too enthralled by the idea over there. Here is the original post from May:

I’ve been thinking about Emma, Henry, true love, the Charmings, and Henry’s father and it kept circling in my head. The theme of the show is that true love is the most powerful magic in the world. It got me thinking in OUaT that true love begets true love. I’ll explain…

Snow’s father loved her mother deeply. We’ve even seen him talk about it in front of Regina. So Snow is a product of true love. Then there is Charming. His mother tells of how she dearly loved his father and that true love will follow the ring she gave him, just like it did for her. Next in line is Emma, who we know is the product of Snow’s and Charming’s love for each other, and hence why she’s the savior curtesy of Rumple’s curse.

So that leaves Henry. The last in a long line of true love. We know that Emma truly loves Henry, but unlike the others, he’s not the product of true love. He’s the result of some messed up, accidental, dysfunctional relationship. She was a teenager, he wasn’t told she was pregnant, then she got arrested. Not the outcome of true love. So what’s different with Henry? Why did the cycle stop with his conception?

Or will his parents ultimately be each other’s romantic true loves. The show preaches it and shoves it down our throats, so why for the main character does she not have what everyone around her, even Rumple in his wacked out way, has or had? Do you think they’ll eventually bring back Henry’s father, whoever he is, and redeem him in her eyes?

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I do think Henry’s dad will ultimately be Emma’s true love. I also think, even though a lot of others think it’s cliched and predictable that it’s going to be Bae. Henry is connected with all the main players in Storybrooke directly, but Mr. Gold. He’s Regina’s adopted son, Snow’s and Charming’s grandson, Emma’s biological son, but nothing to Gold. I think we’ll be finding out that Gold is Henry’s grandfather.

My biggest theory, which is probably never going to happen, right now is something will happen to Gold, nothing major, just a slight accident and it’s discovered that he has an unusual blood type and someone notices that Henry, when he was dying in the hospital also has that blood type. Putting two and two together, Gold deduces that Bae is Henry’s father and so he goes to Emma to redeem his favor for her to find Henry’s father and his son. (On a side note, my grandfather had an extremely rare blood type and was on an emergency donor list because of the rarity and my parents were glad that nobody in the family inherited it. That’s what made me think up this convoluted theory.)

Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

[hjbau]

I don’t think they should use any weird DNA testing or blood type things to further the plot. I think that Henry’s father is just going to come into town.

[antbee]

@Lil’Red wrote:

Before I joined the site, I remember someone stated in a forum the possibility that Henry is the newest link in a cycle of true love. I’m currently looking through old posts, and hopefully can give this person credit later on. The idea was that Ruth and her husband were each other’s true love and had Charming. King Leopold and Snow’s mother had true love and made Snow. Then the products of true love meet, we’re each other’s true love, and made Emma. If Henry’s dad does turn out to be Emma’s true love, Henry has generations of true love behind him, and if magic is fueled by true love in this world, Henry could probably be very powerful (but in need of training.)

I agree that there is something very special about Henry. I like to think that the Curse being enacted by Regina will lead to something meaningful and something that wouldn’t have happened just like how if Rumple hadn’t needed the true love potion, Snowing and Emma being a child of theirs likely wouldn’t happened, and the first part of it would be Bae and Emma being each other’s true loves and the other part would be Henry.

Plus, while I’m not sure if Bae will ever be able to truly forgive his father for everything, I think it would make Bae a lot more conflicted about wanting to forgive his father if he realized that he would have never met Emma had they both gone into the vortex or if his father hadn’t created the Curse.

That might be me. *raises hand* I had to go searching for it, but I remembered writing a big long thing about it and posting here and at Fanforum. They weren’t too enthralled by the idea over there.

Aw, I guess I can see why some people wouldn’t like the idea since they could be against the idea of every character on the show only getting one true romantic love, but then I wonder why they would watch it since that’s what happens in fairy tales. I really love this theory though and hope it turns out to be true.

I don’t think they should use any weird DNA testing or blood type things to further the plot. I think that Henry’s father is just going to come into town.

Yes, before magic was reintroduced, I thought that DNA testing or someone needing a rare type of blood or an organ donation of some kind, might be how everyone finds out that Rumple is Henry’s grandfather, but now I think it will likely happen in some other way.

The first idea is that maybe there’s a magical equivalent to a DNA test, and while trying to find where Bae’s at, Rumple does his spell thingy, and somehow discovers that Henry is Bae’s son. Or maybe Rumple does a protection spell at his house and shop where only family members and Belle would be allowed to enter, and Henry is able to enter making Rumple realize they’re related to each other.

The other idea is that Rumple uses his favor to have Emma find Bae, and then they both come to realize that Bae is Henry’s father. In this kind of scenario, I could actually see Regina wanting to find Henry’s father for some reason, so that all three are looking for the same person, and everyone except Rumple is horrified when they discover Henry’s dad is Rumple’s son.

[lilred]

It was you, Josephine! Couldn’t find the post anywhere, but it was your theory that got me started on a lot of my own theories for the show. Can’t believe no one on fanforum liked it, it makes so much sense – especially since true love is intertwined to anything and everything to do with this show now!
I’m also a believer that Baelfire is going to be Henry’s father and Rumple’s grandson. And only strengthen this resolve upon rewatch: Gold and Henry seem to always mirror each other during scenes: even in their first scene together, both end up looking over their shoulder at the other as Gold leaves. Both throw apples over their shoulder in The Thing You Love Most; and the entire exchange in the Pawn Shop. I used to just think it was a mistake in staging or that Robert and Jared just really enjoyed each other and that was what I was seeing/picking up on: but now I’m convinced they were setting up a connection for next season. I even freaked out when Gold asked Henry about a scheme to help Mary Margaret get out of jail, so now I have to convince my Gran that Gold isn’t going to kill Henry later in the season.
I’m not sure about the DNA thing and can see Baelfire/Henry’s dad coming to town and then things start to add up. Maybe things could start being hinted at if Rumple uses his favor and Emma has to help search for Baelfire, but part of me feels the favor has to be a bit more complex than simply find my son.

[hjbau]

@AntBee wrote:

The first idea is that maybe there’s a magical equivalent to a DNA test, and while trying to find where Bae’s at, Rumple does his spell thingy, and somehow discovers that Henry is Bae’s son. Or maybe Rumple does a protection spell at his house and shop where only family members and Belle would be allowed to enter, and Henry is able to enter making Rumple realize they’re related to each other.

I wouldn’t mind a magical way of them finding out Henry is related. I think i just can’t deal with the practicality of a DNA test. It is something that you can’t just do quickly and even a blood test, they would have to get blood and sit there and wait while someone looks at it. That just doesn’t seem like good tv. If they just know somehow magically then that is fine. Though i still find that unlikely and it more likely that the father will come to town and that is how we will learn who he is.

@AntBee wrote:

The other idea is that Rumple uses his favor to have Emma find Bae, and then they both come to realize that Bae is Henry’s father. In this kind of scenario, I could actually see Regina wanting to find Henry’s father for some reason, so that all three are looking for the same person, and everyone except Rumple is horrified when they discover Henry’s dad is Rumple’s son.

Yeah this is what i think is going to happen. The father, whether he is Bae or not, is going to come into town and Emma is going to see him. And if it is Bae then everything will come out when Bae sees Rumpel and Rumpel finds out that Bae is the father. That is if that is all true. Which while i see it as a high possibility, at the moment, i don’t really like it.

[hjbau]

I still see an issue with the favor just because i don’t see how Rumpel really forces Emma to do anything. I guess there is magic back so there can be consequences again to breaking the deal, but it just seems bizarre. I do agree that while the deal may have to do with Bae, i would imagine it is going to be more complicated then go find him. And they can’t have Emma out of the show for awhile. That wouldn’t work, so i think i like the idea that the father just comes to town, Bae or not.

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