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January 19, 2014 at 3:09 am #238299PheeParticipant
The thing that trips me up with this theory is the ethnicity of the actors involved.
Lana is half Italian, half Puerto Rican.
Rose/Barabara are white, the guy playing Henry Sr is Latino.
So it makes perfect sense that Regina is Cora and Henry’s child.Rebecca Mader is as pasty white British as they come. So while Cora could potentially be her mother, I just can’t buy into Henry Sr being her father. So if that baby that Cora’s holding up is WW, then Cora had an affair with someone. And considering how sure she was that no baby of hers would ever be Rumple’s, I’m assuming their relationship didn’t progress to the stage of baby making activity.
Regina is Henry Sr. bio daughter if Eva and Henry had her out of wedlock as I suggested.
I could maybe buy Eva having been a wild child who screwed around a bit, because she was quite the entitled brat back in the day, but dunno that I can believe it of Henry. From what we’ve seen of him, I think he’s always been a compassionate, well behaved kinda guy, and he was sincerely smitten with Cora in the beginning. If there was a baby switch when they were still young enough to not have the difference noticed by anyone and everyone, their affair would have had to happen around that time when Henry married Cora and Eva was still a brat, (who had been nasty to Cora, who Henry was smitten with at the time). Henry remained quietly devoted to Regina until his bitter end, so I can’t really see him having cheated on his wife.
I think the mystery of the fair haired baby is that there just aren’t that many newborn actors to be able to pick and choose from. They probably had a couple of babies on set (Lana said there were multiple BabyHenries) and this one happened to be awake and not crying when they were ready to shoot the scene. Or maybe they deliberately wanted a fair haired baby just for the hilarity of that kid totally being held up like Simba. 😛
[adrotate group="5"]January 19, 2014 at 5:27 am #238322GrimmsisterParticipantI just can’t buy into Henry Sr being her father. So if that baby that Cora’s holding up is WW, then Cora had an affair with someone.
my comment: she could have had an affair, but that adds unnecessary complications to this already very complicated Family tree. To me a fair haired child by a dark father is more plausible than a fair haired child growing up to be as dark as Regina is, the difference is to big.
I could maybe buy Eva having been a wild child who screwed around a bit, because she was quite the entitled brat back in the day, but dunno that I can believe it of Henry. From what we’ve seen of him, I think he’s always been a compassionate, well behaved kinda guy,
my comment: So people having affairs or babies out of wedlock cant be compassionate and well behaved? Im sorry but I find that view a bit old fashioned 😉
and he was sincerely smitten with Cora in the beginning. If there was a baby switch when they were still young enough to not have the difference noticed by anyone and everyone, their affair would have had to happen around that time when Henry married Cora and Eva was still a brat, (who had been nasty to Cora, who Henry was smitten with at the time). Henry remained quietly devoted to Regina until his bitter end, so I can’t really see him having cheated on his wife.
my comment: The affair between Eva and Prince Henry could have happened around the time of ‘the millers daughter’ ep, we see they did know eatchother back then and Eva was seen as a potential wife for Prince Henry, but I think Henrys father was greedy, so when he saw Cora spinning straw into gold he forced Henry to merry her instead. Henry was weak, he only did what he was told, first by his father, later by his wife Cora. We never actually see or hear that he truely loved her.
I think the mystery of the fair haired baby is that there just aren’t that many newborn actors to be able to pick and choose from. They probably had a couple of babies on set (Lana said there were multiple BabyHenries) and this one happened to be awake and not crying when they were ready to shoot the scene. Or maybe they deliberately wanted a fair haired baby just for the hilarity of that kid totally being held up like Simba.
my comment: Yes the Simba resemblence was stricking. I see them doing it for that reason, although that would be a silly reason in my mind 🙂
January 19, 2014 at 5:31 am #238323GrimmsisterParticipantOh for cryin ou loud!!!
I dont get how the quotation system works, as you can see from my above post 🙁 can someone please explain it to me?
How do I break up the persons post, that Im trying to quote, when I want to make a comment in the middle of that post?
January 19, 2014 at 5:59 am #238332GrimmsisterParticipantSorry Cinders, for the strange way of commenting on your post but I cant get the quotes to work right.
I’ve had this exact same theory for weeks, and I’m so happy I’m not the only one who thinks Regina and WWW may have been a changelings switched at birth by Rumplestiltzkin with the help of a dark fairy. Wikipedia describes one of the symptoms of a changeling is greenish complexion.
my comment: Oh really.. a changeling has a green complexion! Thats great evidence as to why these theories might work 🙂 Good on you for finding that. Your theory is a bit different then mine, exept for the changeling part.
1. When Regina first met Rumple, he told her. “I know everything about you. I held you in my arms..you were younger, more….portable”. That phrase was emphasized, and it’s a phrase everyone remembers him saying…more portable. That word, portable means he carried Regina from one place to another. He took Regina from one mother and brought her to Cora.
my comment: exactly! that Word seemed to hold more meaning. And we havent seen Rumple carrying baby Regina yet, so there is some story to be told there.
2. Considering Cora literally had no heart, I would assume there might be ramifications to her offspring..like a green baby..Cora May have even agreed to the switch and let Rumple or dark fairy hide her green daughter. And what better place to hide a green baby than a land without color, where green cannot be seen. 3. We all know that WWW has settled into Regina’s castle, even wears Regina’s clothes. Why would she have a vendetta against Regina so deep that she would take over her kingdom as if it were her own? I think WWW has returned to Enchanted Forest and Storybrooke to take back the life that was taken from her.
my comment: So where did our Regina come from in your theory?
Now to Rumple, in whatever state he’s in. Rumple is a planner, a long term planner, who sees the future, or bits of the future. He spent many years preparing for the curse, preparing Regina to enact the curse. It’s possible that Rumple saw the future beyond the curse. When he made his original deal with Cora to take her firstborn in exchange for spinning gold, Rumple told Cora that her child was important to him. If Cora’s firstborn was the WWW, then Rumple knew the WWW would be important to him in the future. In whatever state he’s in, WWW will be an important piece in Rumple’s long term plan.
Rumple might not have planned for the switch from the very beginning. Because he was surpriced that Cora ripped her own Heart and that he sort of fell “in love” with her or was atleast lovin her devilishness. So I think his original plan was to use Wicked “Regina” to enact the curse, the way he ended up using our Regina to enact the curse. The baby switch was just to get back at Cora for two-timing him. Therefor he has no other use of Wicked other then that of rubbing her greeness and peasantness in Coras face.
January 19, 2014 at 7:57 am #238341PheeParticipantSo people having affairs or babies out of wedlock cant be compassionate and well behaved? Im sorry but I find that view a bit old fashioned 😉
Of course they can, though the social expectations on these young royals were probably to not have lots of overt affairs (or babies) before being married, and Henry seemed like one to do what he’s told, and Eva seemed like one to do whatever she bloody well pleases. Henry seemed like a nice guy, and Eva seemed like a bit of a $&%@# and they didn’t seem compatible IMO. In the scene where Cora tripped, when Eva started throwing her entitled tantrum, Henry spoke up, “I don’t think the girl meant any harm.” And then he looked at her like this when the others were walking away…
He had compassion for her, so IMO he wouldn’t have been at all attracted to someone with Eva’s bullying personality, not even before Cora came along.Henry was weak, he only did what he was told, first by his father, later by his wife Cora. We never actually see or hear that he truely loved her.
He was impressed by her spunk at the ball, which is why he asked her to dance, then this was his face when his father said he might get to marry her…
This was his face when they got engaged…
IMO the poor guy was legitimately smitten with her. We don’t know how long it took her to prove herself as a hideous wife, but around the time they got married, I can’t see him having cheated on her, (and by the time he might have been tempted to, he was probably too scared of her to actually do it), and like I’ve already said, I can’t imagine him going for a girl like Eva, even before Cora showed up.
How do I break up the persons post, that Im trying to quote, when I want to make a comment in the middle of that post?
If there are select parts of text you want to reply to, highlight it and hit “quote” and just the selected text will be put in the reply box.
January 19, 2014 at 8:38 am #238348RumplesGirlKeymasterOh for cryin ou loud!!! I dont get how the quotation system works, as you can see from my above post can someone please explain it to me? How do I break up the persons post, that Im trying to quote, when I want to make a comment in the middle of that post?
If you take your mouse and highlight the section you want to quote, then hit the “quote” button at the bottom of that post it will put ONLY the highlighted portion into the text box
He had compassion for her, so IMO he wouldn’t have been at all attracted to someone with Eva’s bullying personality, not even before Cora came along.
Ironic given that Cora turns out to be worse than Eva
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 19, 2014 at 8:55 am #238352PheeParticipantIronic given that Cora turns out to be worse than Eva
I know, right. The poor bugger got dealt a pretty crappy hand in life.
January 19, 2014 at 5:57 pm #238482GrimmsisterParticipantThank you Phee and RumplesGirl for the help I will try that out.
Of course they can, though the social expectations on these young royals were probably to not have lots of overt affairs (or babies) before being married, and Henry seemed like one to do what he’s told, and Eva seemed like one to do whatever she bloody well pleases. Henry seemed like a nice guy, and Eva seemed like a bit of a $&%@# and they didn’t seem compatible IMO. In the scene where Cora tripped, when Eva started throwing her entitled tantrum, Henry spoke up, “I don’t think the girl meant any harm.”
Henry was not loved by his father. His father even admitted to Cora that there was not much about his son that was lovable. So Henry has somewhat of a miserable life as a Prince.. He must always do what his father expects of him and what etiquette of being a Prince demands of him- I see him being desperate for any kind of love or compassion that he can grab on too. If Eva was “willing” I could see him taking that chance, they where both young at this time. Maybe it wasnt “Twu Wove” but it was affection- wich Henry was most likely craving.
He had compassion for her, so IMO he wouldn’t have been at all attracted to someone with Eva’s bullying personality, not even before Cora came along.
I see what you see in the pictures. But I think this also applies to what I wrote above. He is just desperate for some lovin. Think of how he was with Regina later on, he stayed with her even though she was completely of her rocker crazy at that time, murdering people all around, he was an enabler. craven love, wich he was never able to get.
medchen wrote: Henry was weak, he only did what he was told, first by his father, later by his wife Cora. We never actually see or hear that he truely loved her.
IMO the poor guy was legitimately smitten with her. We don’t know how long it took her to prove herself as a hideous wife, but around the time they got married, I can’t see him having cheated on her, (and by the time he might have been tempted to, he was probably too scared of her to actually do it), and like I’ve already said, I can’t imagine him going for a girl like Eva, even before Cora showed up. [/quote]
What can I say- Its always the quiet ones.
may the Little Imp strike me Down!.. It still didnt work 🙁 I give up and just put my texts in fat.
January 19, 2014 at 6:07 pm #238487PriceofMagicParticipant@medchen Write [ quote ] and [/ quote] respectively at the beginning and end of each patch of text you want to reply to. (No spaces in the brackets)
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Keeper of FelixJanuary 19, 2014 at 6:25 pm #238493GrimmsisterParticipantYEAH!!! Thank you lots PriceofMagic, finally it worked. Here is a true loves kiss all for you- X
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