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April 20, 2014 at 12:45 pm #262651
Grimmsister
ParticipantWe have new info from yesterdays con spoilers.
Z want to kill Eva in the past :O RG was correct in assuming Z would want to alter something further in the past then her own birth. What does this mean for our time-altering theory???
Did we get any other info yesterday that we can use?
[adrotate group="5"]April 20, 2014 at 12:50 pm #262652Grimmsister
ParticipantSUR_If we are just going throw stuff on the table & say has to be possible because of “fantasy/Magic”, then Rumple should just legit kill WW, because he is the DO & despite the dagger’s power over him- it’s a fantasy show! Who cares about the ‘rules’ that govern how things work- anything can happen
No no.. not what Im saying. Im saying.. it’s a story on its own. we don’t have to have all the rules of our real world aply to the story. We only have to make it work within the stories own sets of rules. Not any rules would be chaos and frankly boring. But one cool thing about fantasy stories, is that we get to make up rules that are different from our real world rules.
April 20, 2014 at 2:41 pm #262659Grimmsister
ParticipantOkay the following is not what I think will happen on the show, not that it couldn’t, but I would be very surprised if I hit the nail that straight on, especially after what we learned from last nights con spoilers. And as I think many of you will say “Its Waaay too complicated. Remember not to pi ss of the GA” 😉
So It is more an adventure into trying to understand how a time-paradox/time-loop/grandfather..thing might work. So this is just my imagination going wild, binging on time travel-loopyness extraordinaire.
Last night I had a MAYOR break through and found a big big problem with the time-loop. The problem is-
Wouldn’t everything always have to go back to the day of the Twister? So that we would never get any further? Because ofcourse if Z always ends up sending back baby and restarting time, then how would we ever get past that day of Z sending back baby?? OH UH! Big problems.. Maybe this is what SUR have been trying to tell me in all her posts and I just didn’t get it? How about it SUR?
Anyway, I found a possible solution, but hold on tight its gonna get freaky.
What is different about the OR timeline and is made to be different because of the AR timeline? Regina is, so she will be the solution to the problem. On the day that Z sends back baby Snowflake, Regina is both baby and adult- Because in this theory, Regina is the Snowflake. Emma, having “come back” from the AR timeline, will have to “boost” start the OR timeline back up to prevent never ending time-looping, by giving back adult Regina a “Regina heart” How will she do this? She will have had to have brought it with her from the AR timeline, since Reginas heart in the OR timeline was fried as one of Z’s curse ingredients.So Emma will have to have taken it from the version of Regina living in OZ. AR Emma must travel there. At the time that AR Emma gets to Oz, Oz Reggie is an old lady, because the Rumple/Regina curse never happens in AR. Emma takes Oz Reggie’s heart and Oz Reggie dies. (This is also Emmas terrible going Dark moment :O ..dam dam dam dammmm!!!). Then Emma goes back to AR and from here she goes back in time to the day of the Twister to exchange babies. But Wait- AR Emma will seize to exist as soon as she has put things right with the babies, therefor she must first find a way to get the Reggie heart to our OR Regina in the future, she can not timetravel on the OR timeline because OR is not the reality yet. So Emma enchants the Reggie heart and puts it on the cover of a very familiar book :)-Cora’s spell book *Grimmsistr dances in joy over this idea*
Emma then takes little baby Z with her and leaves baby Regina, whom she just saved from the Twister, in her place. Emma places baby Z in the Twister and AR Emma seizes to exist in this reality.OR Emma and AR Emma now merges so OR Emma from now on has both sets of memories and are in a kind of middle reality or before reality, event horizon 😉 (This is very possible, I tell you. This happened to me just yesterday) So Merged Emma wakes up in the future OR. As the only one waking up after Z enacts her curse, she would be stuck there as the only one to ever awake, if she didn’t have any means of starting the OR Timeline back up. But now she has the heart, she takes it from the book and puts it in Regina. And the timeline after the curse is “boosted” into existence again, like by a heart-starter machine.
Emma lives up to her true savior and phoenix-bird-resurrector self and everyone hugs, goes to Thanks Giving dinner at Granny’s and lives happily until tomorrow.
Maybe even Z gets a little happiness, after she mopishly and sourly excuses herself from the scene and goes to hide in the woods, where she meets Kermit. They talk about how not easy it is being green and realizes that they are true loves.
April 20, 2014 at 3:23 pm #262666RumplesGirl
KeymasterGiven that
Cora really did give up Zelena, Zelena wants to kill Eva, I am now inclined to believe KFC’s theory more that all Zelena will do is make them THINK that the past was changed. But not in reality. It’s a magic trick. Just a magic trick
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 20, 2014 at 3:47 pm #262672RumplesGirl
KeymasterOk let me parse this out more.
What would Zelena get out of making it a magic trick?
Well…everything. She’s Regina’s mirror this season. She does as Regina does. Regina thought her curse would be her happy ending. Zelena’s happy ending is winning over everyone–Rumple, Regina, Snowing. If she can make it so that everyone thinks Regina never lived, Snowing never met, and Emma is just some errant peasant girl (because you can’t just wipe people out) then she wins. If she can create the illusion (or misdirection!) that everything went according to plan, then no one is the wiser.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 20, 2014 at 5:23 pm #262683Grimmsister
ParticipantOh so you’re saying that Z gets rid of Regina somehow- kills her, or hides her in the closet 😀 And then pretents that she (Z) was always Coras daughter and Snows stepmother.
Yes I kinda like that. That would also fit with Z seemingly playing dollhouse with Rumple in this nights ep.
She is creating her own Little play World, with the other characters as Dolls she can move around as she pleases.
April 20, 2014 at 5:28 pm #262684RumplesGirl
KeymasterOh so you’re saying that Z gets rid of Regina somehow- kills her, or hides her in the closet 😀 And then pretents that she (Z) was always Coras daughter and Snows stepmother.
I doubt she’d kill Regina; it’s much more fun to keep Regina as the only person who has her memories of what is reality and then torture her with this new dream world.
That would also fit with Z seemingly playing dollhouse with Rumple in this nights ep. She is creating her own Little play World, with the other characters as Dolls she can move around as she pleases.
Exactly. She’s an envious little girl who suddenly finds herself with a lot of toys who won’t talk back and must do as she says.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 21, 2014 at 7:58 am #262825Grimmsister
ParticipantWell thats a nother crazy crack in the bin. What were those writers thinking? It would have been so much better if they had written it the way I proposed 😉
I might soon feel just about frustrated enough to start writing more fanfic.A propro- https://oncepodcast.com/forums/topic/the-double-edged-sword-of-being-invested-in-headcanons/
But alas the 3 terrible wizards- Kisses, Horrorwitch and Wickedly Jane, has taken my beautiful baby and send it to the far away land of Willneverbeputonscreen. I feel very sad to let this one go.
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