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It goes against the “Evil wasn’t born, it’s made.”
I think that’s what I liked about it, actually. It was finally something different from the same tired story.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"It goes against the “Evil wasn’t born, it’s made.”
I think that’s what I liked about it, actually. It was finally something different from the same tired story.
I agree…most of us thought she’d be a scorned woman and the Author broke her heart, but to learn that this lady was a true sociopath whose happy ending was killing people even as a child…yeah…that’s definitely different, and in this case…evil was born.
The only thing though…I wish having the ink spilled on her could have had more of an effect on Cruella rather than just turning her hair color. Like that’s the magic ink that writes/rewrites history and all it does is change her hair…seriously???
I expected for her to be truly insane after the ink spilled on her.
And just think about it…her husband here probably would have been her next victim if she was permitted to kill.
Overall…Cruella was a one of a kind villain that I will miss dearly!!
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I think that’s what I liked about it, actually. It was finally something different from the same tired story.
Agreed. Plus, realistically, not every sinful person has a sob story in regards to why they’re the way they are. Evil can be made in many different ways. We’re all born clean slates, but something could trigger a person to snap later on. There could be numerous reasons why Cruella ended up becoming a psychopath, but it’s not like this doesn’t happen in the real world.
So in Cruella De Vil’s case…Evil can be born. RIP Cruella…I’m seriously going to miss this lady! And that twist was everything…finally a shocker none of us expected!
Yep, Regina was wrong. Evil can be born. It is not always only ”made”
I hope that there will be continuity with both concepts; that evil is usually made, but is occasionally born.
Yes, I enjoyed the twist. It was something different, and it was refreshing! But also very confusing. The apprentice said that we are all born clean slates. Well, Cruella was not. I am very confused by the world/concept building right now.
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I think the explanation that Cruella’s mother gave to Walt[*] at the hotel isn’t any more reliable than what Cruella told him. Cruella might have inherited a genetic predisposition, but years of abuse made her problems much worse. Cruella’s name suggests that her mother always wanted her to be that way.
[*] I know they immediately retconned his name on Twitter and again in this episode, but I’m sticking with “Walt” because it’s too soon for retcons.
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[*] I know they immediately retconned his name on Twitter and again in this episode, but I’m sticking with “Walt” because it’s too soon for retcons.
They didn’t retcon his name. When August mentioned ” a man named Walt” he wasn’t referring to Author, he meant Walt Disney, who was once an author before current Author. Author’s name is Isaac.
The only thing though…I wish having the ink spilled on her could have had more of an effect on Cruella rather than just turning her hair color. Like that’s the magic ink that writes/rewrites history and all it does is change her hair…seriously???
Its a subtle change but it changed her hair and voice it seems. She looks very different if you look closely, more….cruel. But yeah, I agree, it should have been bigger.
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In the earlier scene, when he was all, “Who knows what might happen if it spilled,” I imagined something disasterous would result, because the quill guides the ink to give order to the story, so surely if the ink spilled then chaos could ensue or something? But nope, apparently it just resulted in a makeover.
Yes, I enjoyed the twist. It was something different, and it was refreshing! But also very confusing. The apprentice said that we are all born clean slates. Well, Cruella was not. I am very confused by the world/concept building right now.
Yeah it’s quite contradictory. They could have fixed it with a line from her mother about how she hadn’t been the same since some traumatic event when she was a very young child, and she regrets not having been able to help her. But they didn’t, instead we just got psycho first degree murderer child and “nothing can fix her”. Refreshing is a good word for that deviation from the norm, (I’m at the point where I wanna tear out my hair whenever someone says “evil isn’t born, it’s made” in an interview), but yeah, contradictory to what they said a couple of eps ago.
Cruella’s name suggests that her mother always wanted her to be that way.
I admit to wondering what sort of person would seriously name their daughter Cruella. I mean, really? Almost wish her real name had been something else, and she named herself Cruella because she thought it suited her better.
Its a subtle change but it changed her hair and voice it seems.
I noticed her voice change first in the jazz club scene, when he was revealing that he had magic. I can’t remember the exact line, but there was one moment when she said something and it had that deep, gravelly tone and I was all, “Oh hai Cruella!”
So in Cruella De Vil’s case…Evil can be born. RIP Cruella…I’m seriously going to miss this lady! And that twist was everything…finally a shocker none of us expected!
Yep, Regina was wrong. Evil can be born. It is not always only ”made”
I hope that there will be continuity with both concepts; that evil is usually made, but is occasionally born.
Ok, so the problem I have with this is that Cruella wasn’t born as some literal evil demon or monster – she was born a human child. She didn’t have something happen to her to cause her to become evil, like some tragic event, she just was ‘evil’. From what we saw, I’d say she was born a sociopath <- this is a mental illness that the person cannot help, it is not ‘inherent evil’.
Yes, it causes people to lack empathy, which in turn may lead them to commit acts we would call ‘evil’, but we don’t deal with people like this by killing them. We treat them if they have not done anything wrong, or we lock them away and treat them if they have committed a crime.
Wth ONCE? Are you saying that we shouldn’t care when a sociopath gets killed? I don’t get this… why didn’t they just make her a half demon or something? It would have explained the hair way better than the whole ‘oops I spilled the ink’ thing.
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"there’s lesbians in it"What do you all think? Did you like the change?
What do I think? WHAT DO I THINK?!…. YOU CAN’T HANDLE WHAT I THINK! oO! lol Seriously though, I thought this was a disturbing and well written episode. I enjoyed seeing the back story and really enjoyed THE TWIST! I mean, I was not expecting it and it left me feeling… well like I said, disturbed. But in the way you want to be! I mean, need I mention the end of “Skin Deep” back in season 1? it was on that level of… Whhhaaaatt?!?!?!
The change in her story felt like a very natural evolution of Dev’ils character to me. I mean, in every other rendition (at least to me) you always get that… (how crazy is this woman) “vibe” and well, this took it to an extreme but in a very believable way. So in short, I loved it!
Added note: I hope this is the level of shock we get in the remaining four episodes cause man, starting with Heart of Gold the awesomeness bar of this season has begun to raise! 😀
It goes against the “Evil wasn’t born, it’s made.”
I think that’s what I liked about it, actually. It was finally something different from the same tired story.
I don’t think it does go against “Evil isn’t born, it’s made.”
Cruella had that one line about when she was a little girl, deciding to “Splash around in the darkness.” To me, this means she made a choice to go dark, grooming herself to become darker. She made herself dark by her own choices.
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