Cutting Belle's Destiny

[nevermore]

 

I must say, OUAT would be missing a massive opportunity if they didn’t delve into the mythology here. It would make so much sense if Rumple’s mother was in fact Atropos, of the Three Fates (it would frame Rumple’s predilection for spinning himself in an interesting way). In other words, there could actually be a connection to what is effectively Atropos’s shears.

But just to be clear, can someone please explain to me the mechanism of the shears, as it’s been stated? As I understand it, if saviorness, but also other, more mundane aspects of one’s life are predetermined to some extent (what we might call fate), the shears “hack” the system, producing more opportunities for free will. And I agree with the theory that it looks like they need to be used voluntarily, otherwise why would Jafar not simply snip at Aladdin, and voila, problem solved?

If so, then I don’t see how Rumple would use the shears on Belle. He might try to convince her to do it, but I doubt Belle would be particularly amenable to his arguments.

Here’s another whacko theory: Rumple uses the shears on himself in a bid to change the trainwreck that is his relationship, and accidentally releases the darkness. He’s now left powerless, and the darkness, as we know, doesn’t just disappear, but goes and finds itself a new vessel. The perfect candidate at the moment is Belle’s unborn child because it is literally the product of that darkness, at least partially. At that point, I believe the human rules of gestation no longer apply, and Morfetus manifests as Dark One incarnate, with Rumple now powerless, and Emma having to fight him. In the process, Dark One incarnate will probably kill Rumple, thus fulfilling the prophecy. It would at least explain why Morfetus is wearing a dark one cloak, and trying to kill Emma.

[RumplesGirl]

But just to be clear, can someone please explain to me the mechanism of the shears, as it’s been stated? As I understand it, if saviorness, but also other, more mundane aspects of one’s life are predetermined to some extent (what we might call fate), the shears “hack” the system, producing more opportunities for free will

We’ve only ever seen it used on a Savior the result of which was twofold: Aladdin escaped the death he saw in a vision and he lost his “Savior” magic. As neither Rumple nor Belle have those two aspects–Rumple is basically immortal unless someone gets the dagger and neither one use Savior magic–it’s really hard to see how anyone could use the shears on themselves.

I mean, what system would the shears “hack?” Rumple wasn’t fated to be the Dark One (unless S6 suddenly drops that idea into the narrative) and it’s never been established that True Loves are simply fated to be together; there’s always a human machination component–be it a vague “war” (Rumbelle) that brings them together OR something more tangible like Rumple himself manipulating the scenario (Snowing) or something that’s a mix of the two like a Dark Curse, a little bit of fate and consequence of past human actions (SwanFire). And even if we take Pixie Dust to mean “fated” (OutlawQueen) it was still up to Regina to go after true love, something she denied herself back in the EF, pre-Dark Curse!

So even if the shears can be used on non-Saviors, what the heck does it even do when nothing on this show is simply “fated” end of story.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Genevieve]

Reposting a theory from the other thread:

I actually have a far-fetched theory that the shears have to be used willingly – i.e. you can only use them to cut away your Sav-estiny, which is why Jafar gave them to Aladdin, instead of, you know, just waiting for him to fall asleep.

I also have a suspicion that Rumple’s self-loathing is strong enough that he believes Belle and the baby would be better off without him, but that he also knows he would never have the strength to cut their ties himself. So, I think that Rumple’s entertaining the Evil Queen’s attentions are an indirect way to force the issue, since Belle would be mad enough to possibly want to sever all ties to Rumple.

I also noticed, re-watching “A Bitter Draught” that that moment of weirdness between the EQ and Rumple was after the EQ had run the extra through with a sword, wiped her blade clean, and proceeded to dab at herself with the blood of someone she just murdered….if you’re still with me, I think that Rumple’s “interest” was more in line with him realizing the EQ was getting to the point where she would be angry enough to cast the dark curse.  I’d also say that’s about 70% analysis, 30% wishful thinking.

[WickedRegal]

Hmmm…if Morpheus really is an adult in present day, could it really be that Rumple used the shears to cut away Belle’s opportunity to be a mother to their son…which in turn, denied both her and Morpheus that bonding experience because Morpheus would magically be born an adult, which could explain Morpheus disdain of his father if he really could see briefly into the future and saw his father’s plans. I mean sure, this would be the straw that breaks the Rumbelle’s Camel back, but I wouldn’t put it past A&E to deny another mother her rights…. (cough) Maleficent & Snow (cough).

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