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March 14, 2014 at 8:51 pm #253001obisgirlParticipant
I think Cyrus and his brothers will get their freedom back, but I think Amara will have to die for that to happen. I don’t see Nyx being okay with freeing Cyrus and his brothers AND letting Amara live if she gets her water back. And getting the water back would probably kill Amara anyway
I was really hoping that someone else didn’t have the same worry I did that maybe Amara would be the one to die — but now that I see I’m not, I’m sad and worried. Hopefully, there’s a loophole somewhere because it feels really unfair that after being separated all this time, that their reunion as a family would have to be cut short because Amara would have to die.
[adrotate group="5"]March 15, 2014 at 3:29 am #253047PheeParticipantHopefully, there’s a loophole somewhere because it feels really unfair that after being separated all this time, that their reunion as a family would have to be cut short because Amara would have to die.
It’s incredibly sad, no doubt about that, but the fact is that Amara wasn’t supposed to be saved in the first place. “My water can heal only those whose destinies have yet to be written. Your mother’s fate has already been sealed. She will die.” Amara’s fate was supposed to be to die that day, and her fate got postponed, but you can’t avoid fate for forever. It’s like how the Seer said that Rumple’s actions would leave his son fatherless, and it took a while, and a more convoluted route than Rumple had assumed, but it DID happen eventually.
Amara dying now would be restoring the order and balance, which should never have been disrupted in the first place, all those years ago when her sons saved her.
March 15, 2014 at 9:06 am #253056RumplesGirlKeymasterIt’s incredibly sad, no doubt about that, but the fact is that Amara wasn’t supposed to be saved in the first place. “My water can heal only those whose destinies have yet to be written. Your mother’s fate has already been sealed. She will die.”
Agreed.
And all of this makes me wonder how Amara left the Well in the first place, if she indeed the daughter of Nyx. And how long she’s been among the mortals. And why she left.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 15, 2014 at 9:41 am #253059CorbinParticipantIt was stated that Amara was Nyx’s daughter?
Keeper of Thor’s Hammer, Will Scarlet’s Genie Bottle, Emma’s Gun, Emma and Henry’s Moment at the Castle, Cora, and the infamous Family Tree!
March 15, 2014 at 10:08 am #253062kfchimeraParticipantThe thing is we have not seen a redemption moment from Amara. We infer her purpose is to free her sons, but she did a lot of evil things to get to that point. Rumple acknowledged that and sacrificed himself so you would kind of think Amara would have to do the same.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
March 15, 2014 at 10:20 am #253064RumplesGirlKeymasterIt was stated that Amara was Nyx’s daughter?
No but go read the Nyx thread. There is a lot of Greek myth being played out.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 15, 2014 at 10:58 am #2530753princessesParticipantThe thing is we have not seen a redemption moment from Amara. We infer her purpose is to free her sons, but she did a lot of evil things to get to that point. Rumple acknowledged that and sacrificed himself so you would kind of think Amara would have to do the same.
I agree. She did some pretty bad things. She encouraged Jafar to kill a man, and had a whole town afraid of her. We also don’t know if she was good before her sons went into the bottle. She knew about magic, but did she use it for good or evil?
March 15, 2014 at 11:05 am #253076SlurpeezParticipantI agree with Phee that Amara has already lived well beyond the day she should haves died, and you can only defy fate for so long in fairytales. She was granted another century of life, but from what little we’ve seen so far, she squandered it by choosing destruction rather than mercy. She became an evil sorceress who had a merchant boy killed by Jafar and showed no sense of regret. If Amara had been shown to use her powers for good, rather than for evil, then I’d be sad to see her go, but she showed no mercy to her fellow townspeople so I don’t think she deserves to be shown mercy by Nyx. In fact, I think Amara sacrificing herself to free her two remaining sons from the bondage of their genie bottles would be the only real way for her to make atonement or recompense at this stage.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
March 15, 2014 at 12:26 pm #253094RumplesGirlKeymasterI agree with Phee that Amara has already lived well beyond the day she should haves died, and you can only defy fate for so long in fairytales. She was granted another century of life, but from what little we’ve seen so far, she squandered it by choosing destruction rather than mercy. She became an evil sorceress who had a merchant boy killed by Jafar and showed no sense of regret. If Amara had been shown to use her powers for good, rather than for evil, then I’d be sad to see her go, but she showed no mercy to her fellow townspeople so I don’t think she deserves to be shown mercy by Nyx. In fact, I think Amara sacrificing herself to free her two remaining sons from the bondage of their genie bottles would be the only real way for her to make atonement or recompense at this stage.
It’s very Rumple-like. And to extend the parallel I suppose that makes Cyrus a bit like Balefire–only in reverse. Nealfire decided to let fate play out with Emma and the Curse; Cyrus interfered with fate and look at all the bad things that happened.
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