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May 1, 2015 at 9:16 pm #303440nealfanforeverParticipant
If Zelena is pregnant I think it is possible there may be a twist that we don’t know about. When Robin and Regina were together it was made clear that it was more than one time in the same night. This is very similar to when Cora and fake prince Jonathan were together more than one time in one night and Cora conceived Zelena (not comparing the relationships just the number of times they were together).
What if Regina did become pregnant and Zelena magically transplanted the preborn baby from Regina to Zelena. This would be a great twist to a rotten situation.
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May 2, 2015 at 10:34 pm #303503nonnieParticipantISn’t Zelina kind of old to be having babies… Snow was 30 years old, REGINA is about 8 years older, making her about 38 years old. Zelina is even older … so is she really pregnant? or is she faking it?
.May 2, 2015 at 11:01 pm #303504TheWatcherParticipantIt would seem Zelena is telling the truth about the pregnancy according to A&E’s response about it. As for her being too old? I think she’s still in the baby manufacturing state.
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Zelena is around two years older than Regina I guess….so I’d say she’s forty. But hey, older woman being pregnant is common nowadays.
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May 2, 2015 at 11:34 pm #303506JosephineParticipantAs long as a woman is producing viable eggs then she’s fertile enough to conceive a baby. Both of my grandmothers were in their forties when they had their youngest kids. And today even more women are pushing motherhood into their 40s and beyond through various methods.
I was in the camp that Zelena was lying, but based on the spoilers I guess it’s true. And I really do not think stealing an unborn fetus is something that Once would tackle. (However, I do suspect it on Grimm so maybe Once could be trying to copy them. But those are oddly extending circumstances and a captivating story line on Grimm. On Once, it’s cringe-worthy.)
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May 3, 2015 at 12:08 am #303507TheWatcherParticipantIDEA:
Zelena is pregnant. But she is not the mother. Nor is Regina. MARIAN is the mother. When Zelena (and regina in the original timeline) killed Marian, maybe she was pregnant. So the baby, which is indeed not a lie, is a real baby but the true child of Marian/Robin.
Whether or not that makes the situation worse or better….Idk. But its possible.
I like the idea of Zelena taking Regina’s child moreso than the one I just said but still."I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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That is a good theory but I don’t think it is possible because of the glamour spell. For the longest time I thought that when Cora, Regina etc changed to look like someone else it was shapeshifting but when I tweeted Jane Espenson she took some time to explain glamour spells to me. She indicated that there had not been any shapeshifting on Once and that it had all been glamour spells. She explained that when it is a glamour spell the person does not really change form it just looks that way to other people. By the time we finished tweeting my head was spinning but I got a clearer picture. In Zelena’s case, her form does not change so she would have her own eggs. The glamour spell works on the people who see you…not changing your form. I appreciated Jane taking the time to explain because I am pretty sure I never would have figured that out.
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May 3, 2015 at 3:08 am #303511TheWatcherParticipantThat is a good theory but I don’t think it is possible because of the glamour spell.
What I meant was Marian was pregnant when Zelena took her form and turned into Marian, so Zelena took on the baby herself. I would agree with you that she is still Zelena “on the inside” and not Marian, but Adam said (on twitter?) that Zelena changing her form made her heart like Marians (we saw Marians heart taken out in 4A and people wondered why it was so light and not dark if it was Zelena the whole time) so in this particular case, I think Zelena is marian on the inside as well when she shapeshifts.
I could totes be wrong about everything I just said though…I really don’t know with this show anymore xD
The spell of the necklace that changes her into Marian is probably only a glamour spell, the biggest evidence to this is that the mirror saw Zelena as what she really was. If she had shapeshifted then she would have appeared only as Marian so yeah. Better yet, just forget everything I said :3 tis all so confusing."I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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I did not know that. I thought Cora did shapeshift though because when Regina was learning magic in The Evil Queen, she wanted to learn that spell but Rumple said that it took Cora months to master and that Regina would only be able to give herself highlights if she was lucky.
I think Zelena is actually pregnant with her own baby rather than having someone else’s.
I wonder if Ingrid actually saw through the glamour spell hence why she decided to freeze Marian. It served her purposes and also taught Zelena a little lesson.
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Keeper of FelixMay 3, 2015 at 10:37 am #303528obisgirlParticipantIf Zelena is pregnant I think it is possible there may be a twist that we don’t know about. When Robin and Regina were together it was made clear that it was more than one time in the same night. This is very similar to when Cora and fake prince Jonathan were together more than one time in one night and Cora conceived Zelena (not comparing the relationships just the number of times they were together). What if Regina did become pregnant and Zelena magically transplanted the preborn baby from Regina to Zelena. This would be a great twist to a rotten situation.
IDEA: Zelena is pregnant. But she is not the mother. Nor is Regina. MARIAN is the mother. When Zelena (and regina in the original timeline) killed Marian, maybe she was pregnant. So the baby, which is indeed not a lie, is a real baby but the true child of Marian/Robin. Whether or not that makes the situation worse or better….Idk. But its possible. I like the idea of Zelena taking Regina’s child moreso than the one I just said but still.
Both theories are awesomely twisted. I love it.
Couldn’t we just have Maleficent look at Zelena and see if she’s pregnant for real? She was able to tell with Snow and Snow didn’t know herself.
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