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October 15, 2013 at 12:31 am #215999SlurpeezParticipant
I think adultery is adultery. I don’t think falling in love with someone while that person is still married to someone else is enough to justify breaking a marriage vow. Too many people think today that if it feels good, it must be okay. I didn’t like it when David Nolan cheated on Kathryn with Snow, even though technically, that was part of his cursed persona and Snow was really his wife. I didn’t approve of Milha running away with Hook while still married and leaving a small child behind, because she hated being married to a coward. Maybe marriages in EF were non-dissolvable, in which case, I sympathize. Yet, I still think it’s a moral shortcoming to cheat on a person’s spouse, because it doesn’t just hurt the spouse being cheated on, but it hurts the family at large, as well as friends. It cheapens the entire meaning of marriage and makes promises of fedility meaningless. If a person can’t trust his/her spouse, then who can be trusted?
Even in Regina’s loveless marriage, she had made that vow willingly. No one was holding a gun to Regina’s head. She could have walked away. Why did she even go through with the wedding? While this has been debated, I think Regina had already pushed Cora through the looking glass before she said her vows. I think what made Regina turn around and marry Leopold was Rumple stopping her on that horse and reminding her of her lust for magic and power. That was part of the reason Regina didn’t even meet the man with the lion tattoo. She said to Tink later all she had was her rage which enabled her to do magic. This was another idea that Cora had indoctrinated her with, that love is weakness. So, while I agree that Tink was trying to teach Regina that she needs love, it’s so sad that Tink suggests finding that love in an adulteress relationship. It would have been better if Tink tried to help Regina discover that love by helping Regina to adopt a baby or even to help Regina consider conceiving a child with Leo. Love came to Regina as she discovered with having Henry.
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October 15, 2013 at 1:34 am #216007kfchimeraParticipantI feel “baddies” shouldn’t get their happy ending by the fruits of their bad behavior, but if they put the work in and redeem themselves (by more than cleaning up their own mess to use the Lost phrase), then eventually I am ok with it as it is a story about fairytales. So conversely, the “goodies” are allowed to do a few bad things for a good cause in this modern twist on fairy tales, as long as they do not do so many or so much to turn them into a “baddie”.
Snow using the candle to kill Cora, or turning into bandit Snow for example, that is one example of a goodie acting bad that doesn’t entirely change my view of the character as basically good. Then we have Regina trying to save the town with the fail-safe. She made that thing and cursed everyone in the first place, so sort of “her mess” even though she didn’t actually activate it, she totally had planned to activate it.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
October 15, 2013 at 1:57 am #216011PheeParticipantI think I pointed this out earlier but the pixie dust just showed that they were soul mates. It didn’t specify when.
Which is something I don’t think Tink fully understood. She was just, “This poor girl is miserable, and I want her to be happy, and YAY pixiedust to the rescue!” It will end up that it wasn’t actually a bad thing that Tink revealed the identity of Regina’s eventual soulmate, because now Regina will know him when she sees him again, and will have a positive goal to work towards, (she hasn’t had many of those in her time), if she can summon the conviction to grab her second chance. So I think that Tink was playing a necessary role when she helped Regina to find Robin, even if it wasn’t at the appropriate time for them to be together.
The relationship would not have progressed in a healthy way if Regina was having an affair with Robin while married to Leopold. It wasn’t Regina and Robin’s time back then.
Tink is obviously cool with breaking rules. She was established as someone who stole, and who was on her second chance, which means she’s broken the rules before as well, so I think it’s in keeping with her character that she wasn’t put off by the thought of Regina breaking her marriage vow.
October 15, 2013 at 9:01 am #216041RumplesGirlKeymasterNo one was holding a gun to Regina’s head. She could have walked away. Why did she even go through with the wedding? While this has been debated, I think Regina had already pushed Cora through the looking glass before she said her vows.
Tword issues. I remember this debate. I’m still not 100% sure. She was wearing her wedding dress when she pushed Cora through the mirror. Either her wedding had just taken place (in which case Cora was holding a sort of gun to her head) or it was just about to take place, meaning she couldn’t get away.
I think adultery is adultery. I don’t think falling in love with someone while that person is still married to someone else is enough to justify breaking a marriage vow. Too many people think today that if it feels good, it must be okay.
I do agree that adultery is adultery. But this wasn’t a case of following some hedonistic desire. The king doesn’t love her. She doesn’t love the king. And to bring this back up, something KFC and Kat have mentioned, we don’t know what Tink was encouraging (either than meeting him) and we don’t know when this guy is her new soul mate. I don’t think Tink was encouraging her to go in there and knock boots with him. It was: go meet him. And then if it’s TL you can quietly divorce the king or have him set you aside.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 15, 2013 at 9:18 am #216048PheeParticipantTword issues. I remember this debate. I’m still not 100% sure. She was wearing her wedding dress when she pushed Cora through the mirror. Either her wedding had just taken place (in which case Cora was holding a sort of gun to her head) or it was just about to take place, meaning she couldn’t get away.
I might be imagining things, but didn’t Lana tweet recently to clarify that she pushed Cora through the mirror before the wedding?
October 15, 2013 at 9:21 am #216050RumplesGirlKeymasterRumplesGirl wrote: Tword issues. I remember this debate. I’m still not 100% sure. She was wearing her wedding dress when she pushed Cora through the mirror. Either her wedding had just taken place (in which case Cora was holding a sort of gun to her head) or it was just about to take place, meaning she couldn’t get away.
I might be imagining things, but didn’t Lana tweet recently to clarify that she pushed Cora through the mirror before the wedding?
did….she? But also, how soon before the wedding? An hour? A full day? Hm.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 15, 2013 at 9:30 am #216052PheeParticipantI’m searching for the tweet, but can’t find it, so maybe I am imagining it. I swear this was clarified by someone one Twitter in the last few weeks, but darned if I can find it now, and it’s gonna bug me. I have found this, which makes me think I’m not completely crazy, because this person implies the question has been clarified as well…
https://twitter.com/OUaTRegina/status/389514814877229056October 15, 2013 at 10:32 am #216066Daniel J. LewisKeymasterRegina married Leo because she had a thirst for power after tasting magic. But she continued to struggle with that decision.
I agree with Nonnie, and I’m young. 🙂
But I think the points about timing are important here. We could say that Regina wasn’t supposed to even meet Robin yet. Tinker Bell broke the rules in order to show Regina.
With Leo dead (albeit by Regina’s murderous rage), she is now free to marry someone else. I would love to see her redeemed and then be able to go find Robin.
Because if he’s her soul mate, then they can still be soul mates later.
October 15, 2013 at 10:40 am #216067PanTheManParticipantPersonally, I think TRUE LOVE ranks higher than marriage. At least on the show. Regina’s marriage was a sham anyway. She didn’t love him. For me, it’s not adultery.
Leopold wanted Regina more for Snow than himself.
AND you know what else! Had Regina had the goodness of true love, she probably wouldn’t have murdered her husband, the king.
So I’m definitely pro adultery if it can stop a murder, which was exactly the kind of darkness Tink was trying to stop with her encouragement. It’s a moral dilemma for sure, but in this case, adultery would have resulted in a lot of good. (which would have ruined the show)
October 15, 2013 at 10:42 am #216069obisgirlParticipantYou know, it’s funny I just wrote this semi-long CS meta and used 1 Corinthians 13:4-7. The first of it anyway, love is patient reminds me of the situation with Regina and Robin Hood.
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