Do you think Aurora could be Snow’s mother?

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What if they are sisters?

[Slurpeez]

@Phee wrote:

It’s not necessarily completely impossible for the original Sleeping Beauty to have been Snow’s mother. We dunno what happened to Snow’s mother yet, so she may not have died. For all we know, she fled somewhere to protect her husband and daughter from Maleficent who was after her for whatever reason. She could have ended up somewhere far away from her old home, where she found a new guy, (Aurora’s father), and started a new life, but Maleficent eventually tracked her down and cursed her. There’s probably about a 10 year age gap between Snow and Aurora, so it could work timeline wise for them to have had the same mother. It wouldn’t seem far fetched, because Snow, Aurora, and her mother are already connected due to them having been under the same sleeping curse. May as well keep the curse in the family.

The actresses are 13 years apart in age, (Ginny was born in ’78 and Sarah was born in ’91). From memory the casting call for Aurora was for a character who was early 20s, and I’ve always figured Snow was around the 30 mark. There’s no way that Aurora could have given birth to Snow, but like I said, I could buy them as half siblings. With about a 10 year age gap, that’d allow time for Snow’s mother to have run off and set up a new life and had another kid with someone else.

Love the idea that Snow and Aurora might be half-sisters! We know Aurora suffered the same fate as her mother, the first Sleeping Beauty. Now, we also know that Snow White suffered from the same sleeping spell. I found it interesting that in Tallahassee we saw Snow White comforting Aurora as if she were her younger sister. Also, in Child of the Moon we heard Snow mention she’d do anything to be with her her mother again. Taken alone, these might just show how nurturing Snow is, despite having been raised without a mother, but viewed side-by-side, they might suggest that Aurora and Snow have the same mother.

Okay, I have a slightly nutty theory, but here it goes. What if the original Sleeping Beauty is trapped in the netherworld, because she too suffered the effects of the sleeping curse, but was never awakened because her true love, King Leopold, thought her dead and never kissed her? According to Mr. Gold, the netherworld is somewhere between life and death, and Snow could have the chance to meet her mother again by going there in her dreams. Aurora could also meet her, and possibly Prince Phillip, whose soul was sucked there by the wraith.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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Phee and Slurpeez I love your ideas…Sisters and maybe their mom trapped! I think the sisters idea is much better than mother daughter.

[gypsy]

Snow lost her mother sometime before she was like, 10yrs old, that was evident in The Stable Boy. In Fruit of the Poisonous Tree, King Leopold tells Snow that she reminds him of her ‘Dearly Departed Mother”. No, that’s not definitive proof that Snow’s mother is dead, but, some things are alluded to because the brilliant writers figure we, the viewing audience/fans, will just ‘get it’ without it having to explained in detail.

[Phee]

@slurpeez108 wrote:

I found it interesting that in Tallahassee we saw Snow White comforting Aurora as if she were her younger sister. Also, in Child of the Moon we heard Snow mention she’d do anything to be with her her mother again. Taken alone, these might just show how nurturing Snow is, despite having been raised without a mother, but viewed side-by-side, they might suggest that Aurora and Snow have the same mother.

Yeah, I’d noticed that in “Tallahassee” too. I think she made a comment like, “Well who else am I gonna look after?” like she had the urge to be nurturing to someone, but her daughter didn’t need her. It’d be sweet if when we look back, we could know that she’d been comforting her sister in that moment. And I also agree that it was interesting timing to have the ep where Snow talks about her mother being right after that. Not saying I’m 100% convinced of the theory yet, but I’m most definitely suspicious.

Okay, I have a slightly nutty theory, but here it goes. What if the original Sleeping Beauty is trapped in the netherworld, because she too suffered the effects of the sleeping curse, but was never awakened because her true love, King Leopold, thought her dead and never kissed her? According to Mr. Gold, the netherworld is somewhere between life and death, and Snow could have the chance to meet her mother again by going there in her dreams. Aurora could also meet her, and possibly Prince Phillip, whose soul was sucked there by the wraith.

I like the idea of this, of Snow and/or Aurora’s mother being trapped somewhere between worlds, making contact possible. Dunno if I think she’d be in the sleeping curse netherworld though, just because Aurora and Henry are the only ones there right now, (and also possibly Snow if she ever sleeps), so if Aurora’s mother was there too, there should have already been contact. Think I prefer the option of her being trapped with the wraith’s souls, wherever they are, because chances are we’re already gonna go there at some point to try and bring Phillip back.

@Gypsy wrote:

Snow lost her mother sometime before she was like, 10yrs old, that was evident in The Stable Boy. In Fruit of the Poisonous Tree, King Leopold tells Snow that she reminds him of her ‘Dearly Departed Mother”. No, that’s not definitive proof that Snow’s mother is dead, but, some things are alluded to because the brilliant writers figure we, the viewing audience/fans, will just ‘get it’ without it having to explained in detail.

These brilliant writers are also fans of misdirection to mess with us though, so I’m not willing to believe that people are actually dead until I see it happen. 😛 Just because Leopold implied she’s dead, and possibly even believes she’s dead, that doesn’t yet convince me that she is in fact dead, or at least that she was dead at that point in time. There’s always more to any story when K&H are the ones writing it, so I’m expecting the story of what happened to Snow’s mother to be more dramatic than her having gotten sick and died with her husband and daughter by her bedside. What happened to Snow’s mother is sort of a major plot point for the show as a whole. If Snow hadn’t have lost her mother, Leopold never would have wanted to marry Regina, and then Regina wouldn’t have ended up hating Snow, Regina wouldn’t have turned evil, and she never would have cast the curse. Whatever happened to Snow’s mother is the genesis of that whole storyline, so I’ve gotta believe they’ll address how it happened at some point.

[gypsy]

I am very familiar with Kitsis and Horowitz, and Damon Lindelof (he is a consultant for OUAT). I am a huge LOST fan 🙂

While I do agree with you that the fact that Snow’s mother ‘died’ is essentiail to the plot, I honestly feel that part of the story was said and done, and that K&H left it up to us to understand that part.
I feel, at this point, they don’t need to go into all of that, as it would just seem like an unecessary sub- plot, imo.

As with LOST, I don’t think they are going to explain every little detail.
That is part of the big controversy with LOST, to this day. A lot of ppl say that they left too many questions unanswered, where as I feel they left some things to the viewers imagination/opinion.

They seem to be pretty straight forward with OUAT, which makes it a bit easier to follow than LOST was 🙂

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Lost did get kinda twisty, turny and complicated. Doubt there’ll ever be another show that takes it quite to that level again. I still think they’ll address Snow’s mother at some point though. The mother/child relationship is a huge deal on this show. Regina and Henry, Emma and Henry, Snow and Emma, Regina and Cora…all the major players have mummy issues, (as opposed to Lost where it was mostly folks with daddy issues).

[ceege]

I have a totally different theory about Snow White’s mother (SWM).

First, I believe that whatever happened to SWM was caused by Cora. She wanted her daughter to become queen (she named her Regina), and caused Snow’s horse to be frightened. I don’t think it’s a stretch to assume she’s behind the fate of SWM.

Now, this is where I’m really speculating, but what if Cora did not kill SWM, but trapped her somewhere, maybe even in a different world.

I’ve never been a fan of the Cora as Queen of Hearts theory, because I think if it was, we would have seen Cora in Hat Trick, so that we would speculate on how she became the Queen of Hart, or how she arrived in Wonderland. It made me think – why did the QoH not want Regina referred to as “the queen”? Maybe because she is the true wife of King Leopold, and rightful Queen of his land. That would also explain why she kidnapped Henry Sr., and wanted to have Jefferson make another hat.

Now, I know SWM is referred to lovingly by King Leopold. But, evil is made, not borne. So, if she was trapped in another land, it might have been a question of survival to turn to “the dark side”. Add that to her desire to seek revenge on Cora or her daughter, and you have the perfect condition to corrupt someone.

[gypsy]

ceege- I really like that theory, cause, yeah, why wouldn’t QoH want Regina referred to as Queen? Cora was the one that wanted Regina to marry King Leopold simply to become Queen in the first place

The only thing is, why hide her identity with a veil? If QoH were Snow’s mother, we wouldn’t necessarily know that she was Snow’s mom just by looking at her…..???

[Phee]

@ceege wrote:

I have a totally different theory about Snow White’s mother (SWM).

First, I believe that whatever happened to SWM was caused by Cora. She wanted her daughter to become queen (she named her Regina), and caused Snow’s horse to be frightened. I don’t think it’s a stretch to assume she’s behind the fate of SWM.

Now, this is where I’m really speculating, but what if Cora did not kill SWM, but trapped her somewhere, maybe even in a different world.

I’ve never been a fan of the Cora as Queen of Hearts theory, because I think if it was, we would have seen Cora in Hat Trick, so that we would speculate on how she became the Queen of Hart, or how she arrived in Wonderland. It made me think – why did the QoH not want Regina referred to as “the queen”? Maybe because she is the true wife of King Leopold, and rightful Queen of his land. That would also explain why she kidnapped Henry Sr., and wanted to have Jefferson make another hat.

Now, I know SWM is referred to lovingly by King Leopold. But, evil is made, not borne. So, if she was trapped in another land, it might have been a question of survival to turn to “the dark side”. Add that to her desire to seek revenge on Cora or her daughter, and you have the perfect condition to corrupt someone.

Interesting idea of having SWM connected to Wonderland. Reminded me of a theory I had a little while back that perhaps SWM would be Wonderland’s White Queen, (it’d fit sort of perfectly for the White Queen’s daughter to be called Snow White).

It wouldn’t surprise me if Cora had had something to do with whatever happened to SWM.

I’ve been on the Cora = QoH bandwagon since the start though. I think they had QoH’s face covered and voice hidden too so that when we saw Barbara Hershey as Cora, we wouldn’t automatically make the connection, (though I totally still did).

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