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I think it makes perfect sense. And I think it adds to the “Malcolm loved Rumple in the most limited way possible.” For Malcolm it was all about HIM, not his son. It makes me wonder, if Rumple hadn’t gone looking for Malcolm once he got the bean, would Malcolm have ever come back for his son? Or just left him with the spinners?
The one thing that gets me is that A and E have said they don’t do “evil for the sake of evil.” But Malcolm, while he does have motivations outside of pure evilness, is about as close as it comes to “evil for the sake of evil” that we’ve seen on the show.
I think the two things that separates him from Rumple as a father – Malcolm is selfish to the core and has no regrets.
Rumple has regrets. He’s spent centuries trying to find a way to get back to his son. The curse was for Baelfire.
I really hoped that Neal had stayed in EF longer, so he could learn more about his dad and what he went through but I’m happy with him realizing, yes, Rumple abandoned him but his grandfather is FAR worse.
[adrotate group="5"]I think the two things that separates him from Rumple as a father – Malcolm is selfish to the core and has no regrets. Rumple has regrets. He’s spent centuries trying to find a way to get back to his son. The curse was for Baelfire.
I agree. The second Baelfire fell through that portal, Rumple regretted his decision, hence the clawing at the dirt and “I wanna go with you!” and then…y’know…the curse. 🙂
But yea, Malcolm doesn’t regret anything–the life he gave his son, leaving him, plotting to take Rumple’s son away from him (304), putting Rumple in a box, tearing out Rumple’s grandson’s heart.
I really hoped that Neal had stayed in EF longer, so he could learn more about his dad and what he went through but I’m happy with him realizing, yes, Rumple abandoned him but his grandfather is FAR worse.
Yes and I think Rumple and Neal need to sit down and have a very long heart to heart where Rumple tells Neal about his family life, everything Malcolm did. For a very long time, Neal didn’t know his fathers fears and history. He assumed that Rumple simply chose this power over Neal but what he doesn’t realize is how Rumple’s past has affected him all this time. And now, as of 309, Neal is trying to break that cycle by telling “Henry” you have a father now and forever, I’ll never abandon you. The cycle must be broken.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"So when I first read the question you posed as a title I literally went “nope.” Especially because I just rewatched 304 and the stuff he says to Rumple around the fire in the flashback….omg. Wow
he literally TOLD him “you are unloved lonely lost boy or something like that. so no, he did not love Rumpel at all
If we want the bleakest scenario possible, then Malcolm could have done worse: he could have killed Rumple for example. Or left him on the streets as a baby.
We don’t know when or why his mother went out of the picture. did she die and Rumpel just followed his dad everywhere? until Malcolm got tired of it and left him with the spinsters maybe she also left, I don’t know
Source: http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Peter_Pan_(character)
IIRC, I brought that tidbit to the forums a week or so after season 2 ended. Back then there were people in denial that Peter was going to be a villain and were trying to find loopholes, to which I countered that for all his heroic portrayals in media Pan’s personality curiously seemed to be defined by far more negative traits than positive ones, citing Wikipedia and the article above as sources.
ha ha I was one of those in denial!
I think he would have dumped Rumple as soon as the mother died or whatever, but rumple, having no one else, just kept “tagging along” or following him. Malcolm was just indifferent to that
I would like to learn about Rumple’s mom. Who was she?
My honest opinion…no one special. I think more than likely she was a peasant girl who had one night with Malcolm, got pregnant, died in childbirth, and left Rumple with Malcolm. The way they tell Rumple’s story is that it has to be tragic through and through and having a mother who loved him and cared for him, doesn’t fit the bill. And having Rumple be a burden to Malcolm adds more weight to the “Malcolm never really cared for Rumple” theory. He was saddled with a baby he never wanted after one foolish hookup that he probably forgot about soon after it was over. So now Rumple is a burden and a reminder of his foolish and forgettable night.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Maybe.
With Once though, (with the exception of TL couples who happens to be parents like Snowing and Cinderella and her prince), we haven’t seen a lot of parents in the show who stick together. I was just wondering if maybe Malcolm was really in love with Rumple’s mother but something tragic happened to her and he always blamed Rumple for it.
Maybe.
With Once though, (with the exception of TL couples who happens to be parents like Snowing and Cinderella and her prince), we haven’t seen a lot of parents in the show who stick together. I was just wondering if maybe Malcolm was really in love with Rumple’s mother but something tragic happened to her and he always blamed Rumple for it.
When TeamBrothers was still viable, that was my entire headcanon. Rumple’s mother dies, father lavishes love onto older brother Peter and hates younger son Rumple. But at this point, knowing what we know now….eh. Maybe it’s just cause I really despise Malcolm, but I don’t see the capacity to love at all in him. I think Keb was right a page or two back, he’s a sociopath. The only person Malcolm is capable of loving is Malcolm.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I would like to learn about Rumple’s mom. Who was she?
My honest opinion…no one special. I think more than likely she was a peasant girl who had one night with Malcolm, got pregnant, died in childbirth, and left Rumple with Malcolm. The way they tell Rumple’s story is that it has to be tragic through and through and having a mother who loved him and cared for him, doesn’t fit the bill.
no, no, and no! #1 I cannot possibly imagine Malcolm the game-player, immature, irresponsible raising an infant – no way in hell. #2 just because it has to be tragic doesn’t mean he couldn’t have had a mother who cared about him at some point maybe she died and Malcolm got stuck with him – that’s why Malcolm wanted to be free to fly. he felt stuck with Rumpelstiltskin.
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