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I cannot possibly imagine Malcolm the game-player, immature, irresponsible raising an infant
What I’m saying is that he had no choice. The baby is literally dropped off to him and he had to raise it. More than likely he left Infant!Rumple with other people the majority of the time until Rumple could go out with him, tagging along.
that’s why Malcolm wanted to be free to fly. he felt stuck with Rumpelstiltskin.
You pretty much just said exactly what I am saying. Rumple was a burden to Malcolm. I don’t think Malcolm took care of Rumple as a baby. More likely he left with him with other until Rumple became useful to him.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Rumple was a tenderhearted, gentle little boy who craved the love of his father, so something tells me Rumple once had the love of a mother or perhaps a grandparent. He knows what a loving parent is supposed to be like, and his father was not that. Rumple turned out to be loving, despite the inadequacies of a negligent father. Having the love of one good parent can be enough to overcome the indifference or shortcomings of another parent. So, either Rumple was raised by his mother for his first years of life or perhaps by a kindhearted grandmother until she passed away, leaving Rumple in the care of his father. Yet, Malcolm was a town drunk and gambler who saw fatherhood as a burden. Malcolm only slugged Rumple around because he had to until he abandoned his son at the spinsters’ hovel and then in Neverland.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Rumple was a tenderhearted, gentle little boy who craved the love of his father, so something tells me Rumple once had the love of a mother or perhaps a grandparent. He knows what a loving parent is supposed to be like, and his father was not that. Rumple turned out to be loving, despite the inadequacies of a negligent father. Having the love of one good parent is enough to overcome the indifference of another parent. So, either Rumple was raised by his mother for his first years of life or perhaps by a kindhearted grandmother until she passed away, leaving Rumple in the care of his father. Yet, Malcolm was a town drunk and gambler who saw fatherhood as a burden. Malcolm only slugged Rumple around because he had to until he tried to abandoned his son at the spinsters’ hovel.
I agree that Rumple was most likely raised by someone else before Malcolm did Rumple along probably thinking that a cute little boy would earn him more coin to spend on drink. I just don’t think it’s Rumple’s mother.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Peter: I never loved Rumple.
Think that pretty much answers it. The way he talked down to Rumple to in the finale when they were alone in his shop, I just wanted to give Rumple a big hug. That was so mean and cold.
Peter: I never loved Rumple.
Think that pretty much answers it. The way he talked down to Rumple to in the finale when they were alone in his shop, I just wanted to give Rumple a big hug. That was so mean and cold.
I hate Malcolm with the fire of a thousand suns. I want him strung up and clobbered with pointy things.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Peter: I never loved Rumple.
Think that pretty much answers it. The way he talked down to Rumple to in the finale when they were alone in his shop, I just wanted to give Rumple a big hug. That was so mean and cold.
I hate Malcolm with the fire of a thousand suns. I want him strung up and clobbered with pointy things.
Oh, he was. with the DO dagger and then burnt with the fire of thousand suns… but so was Rumpelstiltskin *sob*
He was a horrible father to the son who was so loving and was going to work hard to help make money enough for both of them… and how does Malcolm repay? he wants to kill all the people who love his son and then keep him there in the new neverland to suffer for eternity. how crazy is that?
I bet it was Pan who went back and made sure everyone branded Rumpel as the town coward. I bet all the horrible things that happened to Rumpel stem from Pan
His life is just so tragic, it overwhelms me.A selfish sociopath.
Sorry, had to smile reading this. Still trying to imagine a selfless sociopath 😉
I bet it was Pan who went back and made sure everyone branded Rumpel as the town coward. I bet all the horrible things that happened to Rumpel stem from Pan
His life is just so tragic, it overwhelms me.Not shedding tears for all of Rumple’s life, as an adult he made terrible and bad decisions. A tragic, traumatic childhood can explain but it doesn’t excuse / justify behavior IMO. Rumple killed a man just because he yelled at Bae, and he killed their maid because she might haven been able to somehow give away the secret of the dagger. These killings were not tragic for Rumple but for the people he killed and their families. With the magic at his hand Rumple didn’t have to kill these people, but he did, and even seemed to enjoy it for the moment. Rumble might find redemption, but he did terrible things all on his own (and no, the Curse of the Dark One doesn’t excuse it for me either, he still had an idea of right and wrong).
Watching the scenes between Malcolm and young Rumple, think the writers meant Malcolm to have at least a bit of positive affection of some sort for kid Rumple. I might not make all sense to me, but find it hard to read the scenes any other way than that Malcolm somewhat loved Rumple at first, for a while. Malcolm already showed signs of a psychopathic personality (selfishness, a certain charm, glibness, pompous sense of self, lack of shame and remorse, lack of empathy, living on the edge, poor impulse control, unreliability and lying) when Rumple was a child, but there were glimpses of positive affection for his son. It was probably a twisted love, more a love of having a son than love for his son, and it became more and more a desire for Rumple’s love and admiration, but one can say, it was something. Although people with psychopathic personality can make it look like they are feeling love for someone, they might even want to believe it themselves, but that doesn’t mean, they actually are feeling love.
I am not sure, why the Spinsters took Rumple in, though quite sure not for money, but wouldn’t exclude Malcolm selling him to them. Think Malcolm very much lied to Rumple about coming back, but he still might have convinced himself at that point, that it was very much for the sake of the boy. Like Malcolm later in Neverland tried to make himself feel better about what he was doing by rambling about, how he was not the father Rumple needed, that he’s too weak.
Was there anything of the little bit of love left Malcolm once had for Rumple? That I don’t think. After centuries of exploiting others and being able to pretty much do whatever pleased him think there was not the slightest bit of positive affection left in Pan. Now Rumple was just in his way. For the sake of the story and continuity they had to make whatever Pan might have felt for Felix a sort of love, but still doubt that Pan was even the tiny bit of capable of loving anyone at this point, maybe not even himself.
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Not shedding tears for all of Rumple’s life, as an adult he made terrible and bad decisions. A tragic, traumatic childhood can explain but it doesn’t excuse / justify behavior IMO. Rumple killed a man just because he yelled at Bae, and he killed their maid because she might haven been able to somehow give away the secret of the dagger. These killings were not tragic for Rumple but for the people he killed and their families. With the magic at his hand Rumple didn’t have to kill these people, but he did, and even seemed to enjoy it for the moment. Rumble might find redemption, but he did terrible things all on his own (and no, the Curse of the Dark One doesn’t excuse it for me either, he still had an idea of right and wrong).
He knew the difference between right and wrong and he chose the path of power and that’s why he, in the end, had to make the ultimate sacrifice (but he’ll come back) to make his way down redemption road.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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