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Regarding whether Emma’s name was the trigger for Gold’s memories–Kitsis basically confirmed this (Horowitz also mentioned that the issue would be explored this season).
Potentially spoilery source: http://youtu.be/c1OXRubP8RoGetting back to the Blue Fairy/Mother Superior, after re-watching this episode I realized that you can kind of hear bits of dialogue between her and August when they’re walking out of the convent. I thought I heard August say something about his body, and Mother Superior telling him not to do anything rash, to come to her before he thinks of doing anything, and that things will work out. This only increases my suspicion that she knows.
As to which side she’s on: I tend to agree with the view that her use of power is primarily about maintaining order, at least according to her idea of the way things should be. She seems concerned about keeping everyone and everything in their proper place–dwarves should stay in the mines and should not mingle with fairies (just make our fairy dust, be happy and don’t ask questions–how convenient for them), fairy godmothers help certain people but not others…
After all, if the Blue Fairy is really the ultimate power, why couldn’t she have done more? To stop the Ogre Wars, to lift other people like Cinderella out of poverty, to prevent Geppetto’s parents from being turned into puppets…it’s like the ultimate divinity question…where are the gods when you need them (who are they in the Enchanted Lands, anyway?)
(On a random note, whenever I think of her I can’t get that Beatles song out of my head…”Mother Superior jumped the gun…”)
[adrotate group="5"]I can’t hear what August is saying, but it does seem like he gestures towards his leg when he is talking to the Mother Superior.
@FairyTalePrincess wrote:
So then the question is why can’t others remember? Blue Fairy, Rumple and Ragina all remember. August knows because he is from FTL but we don’t know who he is yet. Jefferson knew and disappeared into the hat. That makes 5 people that know the truth. To me that is a fair number. 6 if Nova remembers.
Are those characters cursed to not tell the truth because if that is the case the Blue Fairy is going against what fairies do. Rumple said “You’re lying!” and she said ” We don’t do that.”
I’m thinking that all of these characters possess magic. So perhaps there was something in their magic that kept them from having amnesia when the curse was enacted, or allows their memory to be triggered with the right catalyst, sooner.
@infinitypalm wrote:
Regarding whether Emma’s name was the trigger for Gold’s memories–Kitsis basically confirmed this (Horowitz also mentioned that the issue would be explored this season).
Potentially spoilery source: http://youtu.be/c1OXRubP8RoHe did infer that possibility. Although, then that begs the question of how Mr. Gold knew to bring Henry to SB, which is inferrred by Regina at the end of episode 2 — The Thing You Love Most. She accuses Gold of engineering things so Emma would come to SB.
@infinitypalm wrote:
Getting back to the Blue Fairy/Mother Superior, after re-watching this episode I realized that you can kind of hear bits of dialogue between her and August when they’re walking out of the convent. I thought I heard August say something about his body, and Mother Superior telling him not to do anything rash, to come to her before he thinks of doing anything, and that things will work out. This only increases my suspicion that she knows.
As to which side she’s on: I tend to agree with the view that her use of power is primarily about maintaining order, at least according to her idea of the way things should be. She seems concerned about keeping everyone and everything in their proper place–dwarves should stay in the mines and should not mingle with fairies (just make our fairy dust, be happy and don’t ask questions–how convenient for them), fairy godmothers help certain people but not others…
I think this is well said. I like the idea that it is about keeping order for her, especially since she seem to be part of an “order” in SB, LOL.
As to why she didn’t help with the other things and do more, there is probably a balance as to how much she chooses to interfere in the general affairs and choices of the people in FTL.
Cinderella did have a fairy, just not the BF, that came to help her. That fairy was ambushed by Rumpel for her wand.
It seems the faeries tend to work more on an individual basis — Cinderella, Jiminy, Bae, Pinnochio. They also seem to work, so far, on behalf of the younger denizens of FTL.
@hjbau wrote:
I don’t think the Blue Fairy has her memories though i also don’t think Rumpel got his memories back until he met Emma at Granny’s inn and heard her name in the pilot.
Then how did he procure Henry, who just happened to be the Saviour’s son, if he knew nothing for 28 years? Incredible odds of obtaining just the right kid … I think Gold reacted because Emma was finally there. The endgame was beginning ..
@TheOnionGirl wrote:
There is defnitely something interesting about her. I have this uneasy feeling that the Blue Fairy isn’t on the side of the angels, as it were … not necessarily that she’s evil, but she’s rather thoroughly on her own side. And that’s not the side of mankind.
She did orchestrate an awful lot of things, didn’t she … in a way, she made it necessary for Rumple to come up with the curse. And then possible for Emma to escape that curse. I wonder if she’s pulling strings toward an end we cannot (yet) see …
Yes! She could be a bit shady. After all, she was referred to as a beast by Morraine … taking a different form, perhaps? And … she told Bae she was on the “right” side … not “good” as everyone assumes … 😛
@Phred wrote:
Yes! She could be a bit shady. After all, she was referred to as a beast by Morraine … taking a different form, perhaps? And … she told Bae she was on the “right” side … not “good” as everyone assumes …
I don’t hear Morraine call her a “beast”…Morraine says she’s an “ancient being that rules the night…the original power”. I’m not sure what BF’s intentions are, but she did tell Bae that there was “good magic and bad magic” and she was on the right side..which is probably “good” magic.
Blue Fairy: Fairy dust is the most precious substance in all the land. Its magic is what powers the world.
IMO, the Blue Fairy doesn’t seem to be overtly evil. Yet, I think she has a very utilitarian kind of ethics: the greatest good for the greatest number. She didn’t seem to care about the happiness of an individual dwarf or even an individual fairy, since each one has his or her place in the overall hierarchy of society. Both fairies and dwarves are critical to harvesting magic, which is what powers the world, according to the Blue Fairy in episode 14. She likes order and wants the fairytale realm to continue to exist as it always has. She doesn’t like Rumpel, because he plays by his own rules. She tried to get rid of Rumpel in episode 19 by giving a magic bean to Bealfire to take his father to a land without magic. I think “right” side did refer to “good side” in her own mind. Though her intentions may be good, the outcome may not be. Look what happened when Rumpel didn’t go with Bae. He became resolved to enact a dark curse that would take all of FTL to a land without magic–the very opposite of what the Blue Fairy wants. She lives and breathes magic, and to her, it’s the most precious substance of all.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
@celesstarr wrote:
I don’t hear Morraine call her a “beast”…Morraine says she’s an “ancient being that rules the night…the original power”. I’m not sure what BF’s intentions are, but she did tell Bae that there was “good magic and bad magic” and she was on the right side..which is probably “good” magic.
“Good” can be a matter of perspective though. I think slurpeez’s summation of her motives in the post above mine is spot on.
No matter the situation, BF will always deem herself to be on the “right” side, but I don’t think that means she only uses “good” magic to ensure things play out the way they’re meant to. If she is indeed the original power, then she must be made of both light and dark.
@Phee wrote:
@celesstarr wrote:
If she is indeed the original power, then she must be made of both light and dark.
This is a really good point and something I hadn’t thought of before.
It had occured to me that if the BF was the Original Power than we might need to start including her in the Rumple vs. Regina power struggle. She obviously doesn’t like Rumple very much and I don’t get the feeling it’s just because she is sweet and loving and all for peace and happiness. If Rumple and Regina are always vying to see who is going to come out on top as the most powerful – why wouldn’t the BF also want to be #1 on the most powerful list? Especially if she was the Original Power.
If the power of the Dark One is passed from one person the next, and Rumple told James that if Snow killed the EQ she would end up as Evil as she was – how exactly did the first Dark One come into existance? I really like the theory that the BF must be made of both Light and Dark magic. She was referred to as the Original “Power”, not the “Dark One” or the “Good One.” “Power” is a generic term.
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