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December 22, 2013 at 1:21 pm #233246Hook’s GirlParticipant
Reposting from another thread since this one focuses on WWW theories:
I like the idea of WWW being Cora’s sister. After their mother died, their father became depressed and the town drunk. WWW couldn’t handle it and abandoned her family and somehow ended up getting into black magic which at some point the spells turned her green and kept her youthful. Cora was stuck taking care of their father and the family business. She became resentful & bitter then revengeful after the events with Eva & Xavier happened.
While Regina has been in SB after the curse broke, WWW took over her castle and became one of the new evils Mulan mentioned to Aurora after the Waith took Philip’s soul. Regina turning Snow’s castle black now really looks like the WWW could live there.
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January 4, 2014 at 4:11 pm #235183TheGoldenKeyParticipantI’m of the thought and mind that Maleficent is the WWW’s sister. Grant it, a lot of great points were made in favour of WWW and Regina being sisters. However, can’t shake the feeling that it’s Mal.
1) We know that a dark fairy gave Snow the fairy dust and it was never confirmed that it was Cora. Besides, Cora was still in Wonderland at that time. Could have been Mal.
2) They say the WWW is related to someone on the show. That puts Mal in the running. To the best of our knowledge, Regina doesn’t have any family left.
3) We know that Mal is dead and Regina killed her. That would give WWW every reason to have business/vengeance with Regina.
4) In S2x02, The Thing You Love the Most, we see Mal with her pet, a dark unicorn. Interesting enough, there was a children’s classic series published as the “Little Unicorn” series, that included The Wizard of Oz. Funny thing, the illustrator of the book was: Greg Hildebrant. He and his brother, Tim, were famous for their LOTR calendars in the 70’s, Star War posters, Marvel & DC comics illustrations and Harry Potter board game illustrations. K&H would absolutely know about them and I’m sure even hung one of their LOTR calendars in their bedrooms or dorms. 😉 So, a nod to the “little unicorn” that Mal kept as a pet could have been a clue about her sister. We also know that K&H throw in tons of literary clues/nods/easter eggs and there are some that we still have yet to find, even going as far back as S1. So, it wouldn’t surprise me if Mal’s pet was a clue.
Personally, I think this would give them a great opportunity to bring back Mal. Fans have been wanting it and they can do backstories between Mal & WWW.
I’m keeping my fingers crossed that it is. Mal was one of my favourite charactors. 🙂
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January 4, 2014 at 4:15 pm #235186RumplesGirlKeymasterI’m of the thought and mind that Maleficent is the WWW’s sister. Grant it, a lot of great points were made in favour of WWW and Regina being sisters. However, can’t shake the feeling that it’s Mal.
I really like this idea. And Mader and KVS look quite a bit alike.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 4, 2014 at 4:41 pm #235191TheGoldenKeyParticipantTheGoldenKey wrote: I’m of the thought and mind that Maleficent is the WWW’s sister. Grant it, a lot of great points were made in favour of WWW and Regina being sisters. However, can’t shake the feeling that it’s Mal.
I really like this idea. And Mader and KVS look quite a bit alike.
Thanks RG. 🙂 Yes, they really do alike. I would love to see Mal back again. What fun the backstories would be of them together as sisters.
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January 4, 2014 at 5:31 pm #235197WickedRegalParticipantThe plus side to Maleficent being the WWW’s sister is that we would be able to get Kristin Bauer back on the show, because I loved Maleficent, and really wanted to see her story. However, the downside to all of this would be that Regina would have no type of family left on the show, especially since Snow killing Cora left a bad taste in a lot of Regals mouths.
Yet, I prefer to look at the facts, and I’m not trying to sink the whole Mal/WWW thing simply because I want WickedSisters to happen, because believe me that’s under my Outlaw Queen belt! If I had to choose, I would save Outlaw Queen because WickedSisters really is just like extra points for my Queen.
But if WWW is Mal’s sister…don’t you all think that she’d live in her castle instead? And that she’d be wearing her clothes? True in fact that KVS and Mader do look alike, but it’s not enough there for me to jump on that ship just yet. All the signs just seems to point at WickedSisters which I understand from all of you who thought Regina was an only child, but please do not forget that this is Adam & Eddy we’re talking about… And I don’t really see the evidence provided that would suggest for Regina to be an only child.
Because really, Adam & Eddy were forced by the storyline to wait to introduce WWW, who they’ve stated they’ve had in mind for a long time for this particular role. Had they introduced WWW in The Stable Boy episode…fans would be to eager to learn what happened to WWW throughout Season 2 and first half of Season 3, and they did give us hints every now and then, which I have listed in the WickedSisters thread.
And I know all of us got burned by the TeamBrothers fail…that still hurt, and probably would have been better if they were brothers, but they made the story work! The point is the whole parent and child clashing has been overdone, and I think Adam and Eddy see that…that’s why we’re about to see Sisters clashing over an age old feud. At the end of the day, Once Upon A Time is about Family.
Again, I love, and I mean love Maleficent who I would love to see back, and be bad girl besties with Regina and Tinkerbelle. Can you imagine the WWW, Regina, Tinkerbelle, and Maleficent having a girls night out? Perfection! I imagine them like this video from desperate housewives below!
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January 4, 2014 at 5:49 pm #235201TheWatcherParticipantIf the Witch is Mal’s sister (which I’d LOVE) It makes sense that she would take over reginas wardrobe and possibly castle. Regina took someone from her via her curse and then eventually took her sisters life (in an indirect way). The Witch wants everything Regina has. Her kingdom, her castle, her life, her power, her curse, etc. Maleficent is/was the mistress of all evil. She has GREEN skin (in the cartoon version) and its not a stretch to imagine the witch being her sister. Thats all I’m saying. The witch wants her revenge. Maleficent and Regina were friends! And now Mal is dead because of her. I’d be pissed off and kill anyone in the way if anyone ever hurt my sister especially if they were friends.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICJanuary 4, 2014 at 6:38 pm #235207TheGoldenKeyParticipantJust a few things. 🙂
1) I’m behind on things so I’ve missed the part about WWW taking over Reggie’s castle and her wardrobe. Can someone direct me to the pics/interviews/information, please and thank you. 🙂
2) Re: WWW/Mal, a good friend pointed out that during S3x01, The Heart of the Truest Believer, Snow tells Reggie to undo her spell and bring back the mermaid. Reggie responds with : “And what? You’ll win her over with your Rainbows Kisses (OZ) & Unicorn Stickers (Mal)?”. Just another nod. 🙂
3) Regal, in my mind, if K&H had WWW/Maden planned for a long time, that would support the unicorn nod in S1x02.
4) Mal also had an orb on top of her staff where she kept the Dark Curse. It was similar to the one Jefferson brought back to Rumple when he went to Oz.
Both I think have merit and I’d be happy with either. Having said that, I’d hate to see them miss an opportunity like this to bring back Mal.
Just an afterthought regarding Reggie no longer having family. Have we determined that Henry Sr. was in fact King Georges younger brother? If so, wouldn’t that mean that Reggie still has an uncle? Or, was Henry Sr. a prince from another kingdom?
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January 4, 2014 at 7:11 pm #235211TheWatcherParticipantJust a few things. 🙂 1) I’m behind on things so I’ve missed the part about WWW taking over Reggie’s castle and her wardrobe. Can someone direct me to the pics/interviews/information, please and thank you. 🙂 2)
In the promo, it seems that the Witch is in Reginas castle and in the pics release by Entertainment, the witch is wearing Regina’s clothes from the episode where Regina and Jefferson went to WL to steal back her father.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICJanuary 4, 2014 at 7:46 pm #235215TheGoldenKeyParticipantTheGoldenKey wrote: Just a few things. 1) I’m behind on things so I’ve missed the part about WWW taking over Reggie’s castle and her wardrobe. Can someone direct me to the pics/interviews/information, please and thank you. 2)
In the promo, it seems that the Witch is in Reginas castle and in the pics release by Entertainment, the witch is wearing Regina’s clothes from the episode where Regina and Jefferson went to WL to steal back her father.
Lovin you right now Watcher! Thanks so much for helping me out! 🙂 Certainly lends support to the WWW/Reggie theory. Wow! Can’t wait til March! 🙂
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
January 4, 2014 at 11:33 pm #235228PheeParticipantWatching Wizard of Oz last night, I couldn’t get over how Rebecca Mader’s hair is such a perfect match for Glinda’s. They could have had her dye it, but they didn’t. So was her natural hair colour a factor in what made them want her specifically for this role? Was there actually just ONE witch in Oz in the Onciverse, and she started out as sweet Glinda, then became the WW? Or would that be too drastic of a character mashup?
Also, Miss Gulch and WWW had Toto specifically on their hit list (Gulch was gonna take him to be put down, and WWW said she’s gonna get Dorothy and her little dog too), which made me wonder again if we might get some Cruella mashed into our WW.
Having said that, I’d hate to see them miss an opportunity like this to bring back Mal.
I’ve heard that True Blood is wrapping up, so Kristen would likely be available to appear, but it’s been so long since we got a real Maleficent appearance, I’ve gotta wonder if they’d have any plans to bring her back in a significant way at all. I’d love it to happen, just don’t wanna get my hopes up too much.
Just an afterthought regarding Reggie no longer having family. Have we determined that Henry Sr. was in fact King Georges younger brother?
Not a chance IMO. They made a point of casting actors with Latin blood to play Xavier and Henry Sr, so Alan Dale doesn’t fit in that family, (unless he married into it).
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