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Miles: Are we going to see any changes in Pan’s relationship with Rumple in the next episode of Once Upon a Time?
Funny you should ask! We just got off the phone with the TV’s most evil 17-year-old, Robbie Kay, and he tells us that we will definitely see some father/son shifts in this Sunday’s brand-new episode. “You are going to see a change in the relationship in the mid-season finale. So they will touch upon that and it will be very interesting to see where they go from there in terms of their relationship as the season progresses.” Hmm, perhaps this means that Pan will be sticking around after the winter hiatus? We’re currently crossing our fingers and toes and hoping for a yes![adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"After seeing the sneak peek, I’m sorta hoping for a no. I’m ready for Peter Pan to die now that he’s threatened Rumple and Rumple’s loved ones.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
After seeing the sneak peek, I’m sorta hoping for a no. I’m ready for Peter Pan to die now that he’s threatened Rumple and Rumple’s loved ones.
Yup. Gone. Goodbye. Robbie is amazing and he ‘s going to have a fantastic career but PP is done for.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I could potentially see Rumple killing his dad in the name self-defense, but just as PP reverts back to Malcolm, he says something similar to what Cora said to Regina as she lay dying: “This would’ve been enough.” Yet, it’ll be too late, and Malcolm will die in Rumple’s arms, just as Cora died in Regina’s arms.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I could potentially see Rumple killing his dad in the name self-defense, but just as PP reverts back to Malcolm, he says something similar to what Cora said to Regina as she lay dying: “This would’ve been enough.” Yet, it’ll be too late, and Malcolm will die in Rumple’s arms, just as Cora died in Regina’s arms.
See I don’t think Redemption is going to happen for MalcolmPan. I think we’re beyond that point. He’s not evil for the sake of evil, but he’s pretty close.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"See I don’t think Redemption is going to happen for MalcolmPan. I think we’re beyond that point. He’s not evil for the sake of evil, but he’s pretty close.
We’ll see. While PP is pretty despicable, he wasn’t always (well, we haven’t seen him be good, but he probably once was, long ago). I still think that PP will have a moment of regret on his deathbed and wish it could’ve been otherwise.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I don’t get how Rumple and his dads relationship can progress in the second half of the season if as far as we know Pans not going to be around anymore.
RumplesGirl wrote: See I don’t think Redemption is going to happen for MalcolmPan. I think we’re beyond that point. He’s not evil for the sake of evil, but he’s pretty close.
We’ll see. While PP is pretty despicable, he wasn’t always (well, we haven’t seen him be good, but he probably once was, long ago). I still think that PP will have a moment of regret on his deathbed and wish it could’ve been otherwise.
Hmmmm. But Cora wasn’t “good” until she met Rumple. She was proud and arrogant and deeply wished to crush those who made her feel less than what she thought she was, but she was poor and that affected her. The power just helped her accomplish her goals, but she had to rip out her heart first. Malcolm is doing all this with his heart against his child, who is nothing but a burden to him. I think if they did a death bed sob moment for PP it’s going to fall pretty flat; we haven’t seen any good in MalcolmPan. At least with Cora they did give a glimmer of “a victim of circumstance” through poverty.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Hmmmm. But Cora wasn’t “good” until she met Rumple. She was proud and arrogant and deeply wished to crush those who made her feel less than what she thought she was, but she was poor and that affected her. The power just helped her accomplish her goals, but she had to rip out her heart first. Malcolm is doing all this with his heart against his child, who is nothing but a burden to him. I think if they did a death bed sob moment for PP it’s going to fall pretty flat; we haven’t seen any good in MalcolmPan. At least with Cora they did give a glimmer of “a victim of circumstance” through poverty.
But wasn’t PP the son of a negligent blacksmith father or am I remembering that incorrectly? Anyway, one of the main themes of this show is that evil isn’t born, it’s made. True, Cora was no saint when she met Rumple, but her hard life had made her ambitious and revengeful for anyone who would try and keep her down. Yet, it wasn’t until she removed her heart that she lost all ability to be redeemed, and it wasn’t until Regina put her heart back in that she felt regret. Well, PP may have become selfish due to a number of things: bad parenting, lack of discipline, being robbed of a childhood while still a child, etc… These are things we’ll probably never know for sure, but one theme holds true on this show: no one is born evil; they become that way.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
But wasn’t PP the son of a negligent blacksmith father or am I remembering that incorrectly? Anyway, one of the main themes of this show is that evil isn’t born, it’s made
Absolutely. And that’s most likely true. Malcolm probably has a background similar to Cora’s. But I’m saying they haven’t shown that. They’ve been reinforcing his evil and selfishness over and over. We got to see Cora’s background. It built some sympathy for her. So far, there’s not much of that (if any) with MalcolmPan.
These are things we’ll probably never know for sure, but one theme holds true on this show: no one is born evil; they become that way.
Oh I agree. But the fact that they haven’t shown how it happened to MalcolmPan means that the audience doesn’t have a lot of sympathy for him and a death bed “sorry!” wouldn’t play well.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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