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I don’t think Neverland was affected by the curse. On Neal’s wanted poster, they gave him a date of birth of March 21, 1977. I would assume that he showed up 14 years after 1977 thus making it sometime in 1991 at the age of 14. That makes him 35 and missing from Neverland for 21 years.
Fantastic catch with the wanted poster.
Ok, so he left after the curse. Then what prompted him? Blue and the other fairies were already in SB by that point so they didn’t bring him here. Unless Tink has no connection to the EF fairies and she sent Bae to our world herself. Or Bae left NL on his own, to escape? If the Lost Boys are sinister, maybe they overthrew him, wanted a new leader?[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@RumplesGirl wrote:
I don’t think Neverland was affected by the curse. On Neal’s wanted poster, they gave him a date of birth of March 21, 1977. I would assume that he showed up 14 years after 1977 thus making it sometime in 1991 at the age of 14. That makes him 35 and missing from Neverland for 21 years.
Fantastic catch with the wanted poster.
Ok, so he left after the curse. Then what prompted him? Blue and the other fairies were already in SB by that point so they didn’t bring him here. Unless Tink has no connection to the EF fairies and she sent Bae to our world herself. Or Bae left NL on his own, to escape? If the Lost Boys are sinister, maybe they overthrew him, wanted a new leader?Yes, nice find, GoldenKey! I think you found the piece of evidence to supports my claim that Captain Hook (and his crew I think) left Neverland before the curse and Baelfire left about midway through the curse. You’re also right in saying Baelfire appears to be closer to age 35 (as MRJ’s age would suggest). We know Emma arrived in SB on Oct. 22, 2011, 28 years to the day when SB was created. It’s now about a year later plus some months, making it 2013 in SB. 2013 -1977 would make Baelfire appear about 36-years-old.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
@slurpeez108 wrote:
@RumplesGirl wrote:
I don’t think Neverland was affected by the curse. On Neal’s wanted poster, they gave him a date of birth of March 21, 1977. I would assume that he showed up 14 years after 1977 thus making it sometime in 1991 at the age of 14. That makes him 35 and missing from Neverland for 21 years.
Fantastic catch with the wanted poster.
Ok, so he left after the curse. Then what prompted him? Blue and the other fairies were already in SB by that point so they didn’t bring him here. Unless Tink has no connection to the EF fairies and she sent Bae to our world herself. Or Bae left NL on his own, to escape? If the Lost Boys are sinister, maybe they overthrew him, wanted a new leader?Yes, nice find, GoldenKey! I think you found the piece of evidence to supports my claim that Captain Hook (and his crew I think) left Neverland before the curse and Baelfire left about midway through the curse. You’re also right in saying Baelfire appears to be closer to age 35 (as MRJ’s age would suggest). We know Emma arrived in SB on Oct. 22, 2011, 28 years to the day when SB was created. It’s now about a year later plus some months, making it 2013 in SB. 2013 -1977 would make Baelfire appear about 36-years-old.
Okay, I’m confused.
Hook and Cora were the only two standing inside that bubble while smoke was all around them, and people were being transported to Storybrooke.
Also: Hook’s crew: Why wouldn’t they have been transported as well? Wouldn’t they have lost their memories and been placed into a different life like everybody else?
On the other hand, we know that Mulan, Aurora, and others were not transported. Why?
I’ve got some missing pieces of info here.
Okay, I’m confused.
Hook and Cora were the only two standing inside that bubble while smoke was all around them, and people were being transported to Storybrooke.
Also: Hook’s crew: Why wouldn’t they have been transported as well? Wouldn’t they have lost their memories and been placed into a different life like everybody else?
On the other hand, we know that Mulan, Aurora, and others were not transported. Why?
I’ve got some missing pieces of info here.
I don’t think it was just Cora and Hook inside the bubble. I think it was everyone who was still in FTL when Emma and Snow went there, including Mulan and Aurora. Hook’s crew was probably on the boat waiting for Hook to return when the curse hit, thus why Smee is in SB.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@Sarah_TN wrote:
Hook and Cora were the only two standing inside that bubble while smoke was all around them, and people were being transported to Storybrooke.
Also: Hook’s crew: Why wouldn’t they have been transported as well? Wouldn’t they have lost their memories and been placed into a different life like everybody else?
On the other hand, we know that Mulan, Aurora, and others were not transported. Why?
I’ve got some missing pieces of info here.
Here is my best guess as to why Smee ended up in SB, and Captain Hook didn’t. I posted it on page 3 of this thread:
I am starting to doubt Captain Hook left his entire crew behind him in Neverland. We know he had his ship in the remanent of the EF, because he used it to sail with Cora to SB. Also, we know Smee ended up in SB. So, the simplest answer in my mind is that Captain Hook and his crew sailed the Jolly Roger to the EF 30 years ago. Smee and the other pirates were affected by the dark curse and transported to SB. Captain Hook and Cora remained behind in the bubble-protected remanent of the EF until they sailed his ship to SB.
Hook’s crew were most likely in the EF when the curse hit, and so they were transported along with almost everyone else to SB , which is why Smee was there. When Cora cast the bubble spell to counteract the dark curse, it only protected a small remanent of the EF, including the small peninsula where the survivors made camp and Aurora’s kingdom, where Prince Philip and Mulan found her. We don’t know why they were spared except that they happened to be in Cora’s bubble, whereas everyone outside of that bubble were not protected and so the dark curse transported them to SB.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I thought the bubble extended a ways away and we only saw Hook and Cora where it started but it would have affected that entire section of the EF and not send them to SB. After 2×18 airs I’m gonna do my season rewatch to gear up for the finale but I was thinking the bubble stopped that whole section of the EF from being transported to SB which included Mulan, Aurora, etc. Guess we need to find somebody who for sure remembers!
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
Yes, the bubble only covered a small portion of the enchanted forest. Whoever was in that area, at the time Reggie cast the curse, was protected and did not go to SB. Nor did they age. Everyone else in the EF, that were not covered by Cora’s magic, were transported. The ship would have been under the bubble as well, otherwise how would Hook have had access to it?
Smee and some of Hook’s pirates were probably on shore leave, somewhere in the EF when the curse hit thus taking them to SB. Hook may have left some behind in Neverland (when he first came to the EF and visited Belle) to keep on eye on the Lost Boys so they wouldn’t take over.
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
I thought the bubble extended a ways away and we only saw Hook and Cora where it started but it would have affected that entire section of the EF and not send them to SB. After 2×18 airs I’m gonna do my season rewatch to gear up for the finale but I was thinking the bubble stopped that whole section of the EF from being transported to SB which included Mulan, Aurora, etc. Guess we need to find somebody who for sure remembers!
Yes, Cora’s protective barrier spell covered a good sized remanent, but not all, of the EF. It definitely protected the “safe-haven” where the survivors made camp and the Middle Eastern looking palace where Philip and Mulan found a sleeping Aurora. Here’s a really cool fan-made video of the dark curse being cast and it includes clips of Cora’s barrier spell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2de3hXcPacw&list=UUfVEUnU9KU6Q3C0aHIB3xQg&index=5"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Just to clarify, the catch on Neal’s age came from Gypsy. She posted about it last fall when Tallahassee aired. I don’t want to be stealing anyone’s thunder 😉
Glad it helped with your theory Slurpeez 🙂
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
Perhaps they are going to turn the Lost Boys into a teenage gang. Henry’s impressionable and having difficulties with his family at the moment, if the Lost Boys are offering a sense of brotherhood, family and kinship then Henry may be tempted to join them.
Plus it adds a real world element to an otherwise fantastical story. Henry isn’t just getting involved with the lost boys, he is getting involved with a teenage gang. Isn’t that every parent’s nightmare? Your child growing up and getting involved with the wrong crowd.
Emma’s had it too easy with Henry, it’s about time he started giving her problems that aren’t related to magic as such.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix
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