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October 15, 2012 at 1:32 pm #156765zlfh4Participant
I don’t think I have a problem with emma not being in the show for this episode though I don’t think she is dumb, and I love Henry. My reasoning is that they have already announced that Colin is now going to be a series regular so they are going to need an episode that shows how he connects to the story and obviously Rumple has a lot to do with it and Emma does not so they don’t need her…As long as its giving us background information that is needed. Also we know in ep. 6 we are going to be getting lots of info on her background so its not like there are going to be a lot of episodes without her…
[adrotate group="5"]October 16, 2012 at 5:35 pm #156945elleParticipantEach character has their own wants/needs/arcs this season. 🙂
1). Regina is trying her hands at redemption.
2). Henry and Prince Charming are looking for Snow White and Emma, along with keeping the town in check.
3). Rumpelstiltskin is looking for Baelfire and trying to keep Belle.
4). Gepetto will probably still be looking for Pinocchio.
5). Snow White and Emma will be trying to find a portal back to their family.
6). This new mysterious man (Henry’s father? Baelfire? Peter Pan? Person that wrote the book? More than one of these options?) will also have his own goal, probably.
7). And the rest of the Storybrook–Archie, Red Riding Hood, Blue Fairy, and etc will be trying to either help keep order in the town in order.You can’t fit all of this in an episode every Sunday. So some characters will be more prominent than others in an episode.
October 20, 2012 at 11:14 pm #157367hjbauParticipantWell, in my opinion, doing what they are doing now, the show is cancelable. It is just that a lot of the characters seem really weak now. Aurora, Belle, even Regina and Rumpel now seem weak. Having the strong characters in one storyline seems like a really bad idea to me. At least the are doing more with Red now and trying to develop Charming a bit though his acting was just a bit eh for me in the first three episodes. Last weeks episode was great, so maybe after we get past four things will go smoother from them on out.
Also Jennifer said it was her favorite episode because she hates watching herself. I completely get that. It has to be really weird and she probably actually likes the acting part of the job and not so much the watching herself thing. I could so see how that would get in your head anyways and could make it harder to do the acting part which it seems to be is what excites actors. The figuring out how a character ticks and playing them realistically, not the being on tv thing, but rather the acting thing.
October 20, 2012 at 11:17 pm #157368cherishParticipantSo, just because Emma is missing from an episode, the show is in danger of being cancelled? I’m not sure that’s entirely accurate. So far, most people seem to be enjoying the first three episodes, and there’s a lot of excitement about the next episode.
October 20, 2012 at 11:24 pm #157370a chipped cupParticipantI don’t mind Emma and Snow being absent for a few episodes. I’m glad that the other characters are getting more focus. Especially Rumpel and Regina. What does both me is the actual storyline. I don’t really see the point of Emma and Snow being in the Enchanted Forest. It doesn’t add anything to the actual plot, and it pairs the main characters off with new characters that most people are pretty apprehensive about. So, Emma and Snow going missing for a few episodes doesn’t bother me, but having them in a storyline that is completely separate from the main Storyline going on in Storybrooke is upsetting. I’m more invested with what’s going with Charming, Rumpel, Regina and Red in Storybrooke than Emma and Snow’s storyline, and that’s a problem.
The only good thing to come out of this storyline is Cora.
October 21, 2012 at 5:07 am #157405PheeParticipant@A Chipped Cup wrote:
I don’t really see the point of Emma and Snow being in the Enchanted Forest. It doesn’t add anything to the actual plot, and it pairs the main characters off with new characters that most people are pretty apprehensive about. So, Emma and Snow going missing for a few episodes doesn’t bother me, but having them in a storyline that is completely separate from the main Storyline going on in Storybrooke is upsetting. I’m more invested with what’s going with Charming, Rumpel, Regina and Red in Storybrooke than Emma and Snow’s storyline, and that’s a problem.
At the moment, there may be a disconnect between the two storylines, but I’m thinking they’re gonna link up sooner rather than later. I’m assuming that Hook, (and Cora) will end up in SB. If that was the plan of the showrunners, to get them to SB from another world, then I think this was a very creative way to go about getting them there.
Not only has it thrown the show’s heroines into peril, it’s forced them to bond and begin the mother/daughter relationship that the fandom was eager to see. They wouldn’t have had that breakthrough if they were both still in SB, it only happened because they’d been thrown into this situation where they only had each other, and Emma was forced to see Snow as her mother. It’s fun to see Emma in her native land, and important for her to see the place she came from, (like, literally, she saw what would have been her nursery, that’s not something she ever could have imagined she’d get to see), because she’s had issues with her identity her entire life, and is only now beginning to learn who she really is. It’s great development for her character to have a reality check that there are some situations that she really can’t handle alone, so she has to let the tough exterior crack and learn how to be a vulnerable girl who can let her mother take the lead, a concept that’s completely foreign to her. None of this character development would have been possible if they’d remained in SB.
Also, it’s caused us to ask more questions about the curse. Here we thought it was broken, so it was over and done, but it turns out there was a part of FTL that was left untouched, and now we’ll get to discover more of how the curse really operated, and what caused it to behave that way.
Getting back to my first point about them joining up the two storylines, when that happens, it’ll impact multiple SB storylines. Emma will hopefully be in a better place to move forward with accepting her parents, and may well have a whole new outlook on how she wants to be a mother for Henry as well. If Cora comes back, that’ll mean hell for Regina. If Hook comes back, well, we now know he has a sordid history with Rumple, which will impact both of them if they’re back in the same town, and in turn that will affect Belle. And if they’re gonna be bringing Bae to town as well, that’ll mean that the real story of what happened to his mother will come out, assuming Rumple never told him the whole truth. Imagine an adultBae coming face to face with Hook, the man who took his mother.
Anyway, basically, I guess what I’m saying is that IMO, the way they’ve split the storylines for now is a brilliant way for them to introduce new characters, develop existing ones, and set up new elements of the story which will play out during the coming season.
October 21, 2012 at 2:16 pm #157418TheGoldenKeyParticipant@Phee wrote:
Anyway, basically, I guess what I’m saying is that IMO, the way they’ve split the storylines for now is a brilliant way for them to introduce new characters, develop existing ones, and set up new elements of the story which will play out during the coming season.
I concur! 😀 I know on OUAT FB Board, a few are complaining about all the new characters etc. Personally, I’m loving it and can see how it will carry us not only through this season but hopefully into many more.
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October 21, 2012 at 3:52 pm #157426SlurpeezParticipantPhee wrote: At the moment, there may be a disconnect between the two storylines, but I’m thinking they’re gonna link up sooner rather than later. I’m assuming that Hook, (and Cora) will end up in SB. If that was the plan of the showrunners, to get them to SB from another world, then I think this was a very creative way to go about getting them there.
I agree. The writers have a way of bringing all of the seemingly lose ends together in a very satisfying way. While each character’s story seems to stand alone in an episode, they all finally coalesce in the end to create a grand narrative, just like in the S1 finale. I also think Hook and Cora are headed to SB, and I love how the writers chose to flush this out.
Not only has it thrown the show’s heroines into peril, it’s forced them to bond and begin the mother/daughter relationship that the fandom was eager to see. They wouldn’t have had that breakthrough if they were both still in SB, it only happened because they’d been thrown into this situation where they only had each other, and Emma was forced to see Snow as her mother. It’s fun to see Emma in her native land, and important for her to see the place she came from, (like, literally, she saw what would have been her nursery, that’s not something she ever could have imagined she’d get to see), because she’s had issues with her identity her entire life, and is only now beginning to learn who she really is. It’s great development for her character to have a reality check that there are some situations that she really can’t handle alone, so she has to let the tough exterior crack and learn how to be a vulnerable girl who can let her mother take the lead, a concept that’s completely foreign to her. None of this character development would have been possible if they’d remained in SB.
Exactly. Emma had to see FTL and experience it for herself for her to really come to terms with her identity and for her to realize just what her parents gave up. Snow and Emma having to rely on each other in a survivor-scenerio where Snow knows best is great TV. I’ve loved all of the episodes in S2, especially the mother-daughter bonding. I'll be excited to discover how Snow is able to communicate with Charming in SB. I also can't wait for Emma's episode and her and Hook racing to get a magical compass.
Also, it’s caused us to ask more questions about the curse. Here we thought it was broken, so it was over and done, but it turns out there was a part of FTL that was left untouched, and now we’ll get to discover more of how the curse really operated, and what caused it to behave that way.
Yes, this is the best way to show what happened to FTL, how many worlds were affected, and why part of the Enchanted Forest is still in tact. There’s not really a satisfying alternative. I suppose the writers could have a character tell us about it, but it’s infinitely more satisfying to show us through narrative.
Getting back to my first point about them joining up the two storylines, when that happens, it’ll impact multiple SB storylines. Emma will hopefully be in a better place to move forward with accepting her parents, and may well have a whole new outlook on how she wants to be a mother for Henry as well. If Cora comes back, that’ll mean **** for Regina. If Hook comes back, well, we now know he has a sordid history with Rumple, which will impact both of them if they’re back in the same town, and in turn that will affect Belle. And if they’re gonna be bringing Bae to town as well, that’ll mean that the real story of what happened to his mother will come out, assuming Rumple never told him the whole truth. Imagine an adultBae coming face to face with Hook, the man who took his mother.
I also think Emma’s absence from SB is vital to the plot-line for Henry’s father coming to SB. It’s highly suspenseful and way more mysterious for Henry to meet him without Emma immediately recognizing him. Emma not being in SB allows this other storyline to develop before her return. Then, as Phee said, Emma will be much more accepting of her identity and of her relationship with her parents and be a better mother, too. Also, Emma will be much more prepared to explore her past with Henry’s dad. IF Henry’s dad turns out to be Baelfire, it’ll be highly interesting if he meets Hook and also is reunited with Rumpel.
Anyway, basically, I guess what I’m saying is that IMO, the way they’ve split the storylines for now is a brilliant way for them to introduce new characters, develop existing ones, and set up new elements of the story which will play out during the coming season.
Totally agree.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
October 21, 2012 at 4:16 pm #157430midnight drearyParticipant@Cherish wrote:
So, just because Emma is missing from an episode, the show is in danger of being cancelled? I’m not sure that’s entirely accurate. So far, most people seem to be enjoying the first three episodes, and there’s a lot of excitement about the next episode.
I agree. Emma going missing for one epsiode isn’t going to kill the show. A lot characters went missing for 7 or 8 episode last season, and it survived. I think the show can survive one episode without Emma, especially if the episode is going to be focusing on a fan favorite, and on top of that, introducing a new character who will probably become extremely popular.
October 21, 2012 at 6:07 pm #157434elleParticipantNow that there are more new characters, it will be impossible for all of them to be in an episode at the same time, keeping them in character, and keeping their story arc important. 🙂 If every single character appeared in every single episode, it would become boring after a while, as well as feeling too crowded with still introducing all the new ones.
Red Riding Hood, Belle, the dwarves, and Jiminy all seem to be getting a bit more attention this season in Storybrooke, and that is awesome to see, I think. As well as seeing how Prince Charming and Henry are bonding and how Prince Charming will be keeping the town in check.
Emma and Snow white in Fairytale Land is a great opportunity for the two of them to bond.
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