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November 1, 2013 at 9:06 am #220412
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ParticipantThanks for sharing that GIF set. I love the Charming-stiltskin clan. Emma, Neal, Henry could get a castle or just live in SB and ride around in that yellow bug, and they’d be happy just being together. Can you imagine the fun family road trip finally going to Tallahassee, FL?
Jennifer Morrison – The Addition of Neal Keeps Emma ‘Off Kilter’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8bvwnCIuS4
I love this interview! Jennifer Morrison confirms that Neal really gets to Emma, even now, after all this time, and their love keeps her off-kilter. Only true love does that, even after the passage of time. Theirs is not a fling but an everlasting flame that will be there for Emma, no matter how hard she tries to deny it nor how much time passes.[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
November 1, 2013 at 9:11 am #220413RumplesGirl
KeymasterGreat interview!
It’s Friday! Which means tomorrow is Saturday! And then it’s Sunday!!! And hopefully we get a fantastic SwanFire reunion!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 1, 2013 at 10:12 am #220425Slurpeez
ParticipantSo, I was re-reading an interview that Colin O’Donoghue gave last week in the countdown to 3×5. At that point, we had all seen the CS kiss in a sneak peek but had yet to see the episode so we didn’t know the twist at the end. Here is what he said,
The cat’s out of the bag about Emma and Hook’s kiss. Were you aware that this was where this particular storyline was going?
I think it was always sort of in the background, that there would be a thing [between Emma and Hook]. Hook and Emma have this kindred spirits kind of thing. They really see themselves in each other and there’s no denying that there’s a spark between the two of them. Where the complication comes in now is obviously Hook would have given up everything to be Baelfire’s father and still sees him a little bit as that boy. At the moment when they kiss, they don’t know that Neal is in Neverland and they don’t know that he’s alive. They think he’s dead. It’ll be interesting to see what happens when all that [comes out]. It’s a weird situation. Hook was with [Neal’s] mother and now he’s kissed his ex-girlfriend, the mother of his son [Henry], so it’s sort of a weird situation. (Laughs.)LOL – “weird situation” indeed! Hook first went after Bae’s mommy only to go after Bae’s baby-mommy.
As you mentioned, Emma and Hook still don’t know that Neal’s alive. How do you think they’ll take the news if and when they find out?
I don’t know. It’ll be interesting to see. It depends on who Hook believes he is at that moment. We know that he has potential to be quite selfish and switch sides. It’ll be interesting to see if he still wants to carry on the path of trying to be a good person or not, and I think that at the end of the day, everyone is more focused on trying to save Henry, which is the whole reason they went to Neverland. All of that stuff takes a backseat for the time being. They’re all there to save Henry.So, I think we’ve been correct in assuming that any of the heavy triangle-drama is going to take a back seat until after after they get back to SB. There will sill be CSF ambiguity going forward, but I bet they all put that aside for the time being to focus on getting back Henry (as they should).
We’ve been groomed to think that there’s always something else going on with Hook. Are his intentions pure with Emma?
It’s complicated with Hook. At this moment, he definitely believes in doing the right thing and the kiss surprises both of them where it comes from. I don’t think either of them planned it, so I don’t think he has any sort of game plan around that, because it’s a surprising thing that happens. It’s always been bubbling there for Hook and Emma, so who knows which way he decides to go if he decides to pursue it.That is a big “if” since Hook isn’t known to put others ahead of his own wants/desires. Time will tell whether or not he chooses to pursue things further with Emma now that he knows Neal is alive. Will Hook put his son figure first or will he put himself first? “The things we do for our children…” makes me think Hook might actually do the honorable thing and back off from his romantic pursuit of the woman Neal loves (at least for a while).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
November 1, 2013 at 10:35 am #220429Phee
ParticipantI don’t mind who Emma chooses as long as it’s consistant to the story. And the only consistency I see is Swanfire.
Yep, both characters are a major part of the overall storyline of the show in their own right, and their stories are tied together romantically as well. I admit that I’m not a literary major or anything, but from a storytelling perspective, it just makes sense to me that SF is getting the long, hard road, to an eventual happy ending.
PS. Welcome to the thread. 🙂
That is a big “if” since Hook isn’t known to put others ahead of his own wants/desires. Time will tell whether or not he chooses to pursue things further with Emma now that he knows Neal is alive. Will Hook put his son figure first or will he put himself first? “The things we do for our children…” makes me think Hook might actually do the honorable thing and back off from his romantic pursuit of the woman Neal loves (at least for a while).
I know the media has been hyping up the dramatic love triangle, but I’m cautiously optimistic that it’s not really gonna end up being a dramatic, drawn out, triangle on the actual show. People in the media who write the articles aren’t privy to future scripts to know where the show is actually headed, but the actors are privy to future scripts, because they’ve already shot them, so if the actors are saying the triangle won’t be a massive focus in the immediate future, I’m inclined to believe them. And would they drop the triangle while in NL only to pick it up and make it all complicated later? If they don’t follow up on the potential drama of it all immediately, then is there really a point to dredging it all up again a couple of months down the track when everyone’s pretty much over the shock and awe of TEH KISSS? Maybe I’m just being naive and overly optimistic, but I’d think that if the triangle isn’t gonna be a THING straight away, then it won’t really end up being a thing at all. I’m expecting (hoping) that instead they focus on the aspect of Hook trying to heal his relationship with Neal on the grounds of, “I loved your mother and failed to offer you a safe family the last time you put faith in me so I hope we can get past that and be mates.” And Emma and Neal have so much crap to sort out, it’ll be a slow journey for them getting to know each other again. There’s already enough drama and angst between all three of them without them have to stick Emma in between them in a romantic tug of war.
November 1, 2013 at 10:44 am #220431RumplesGirl
KeymasterI know the media has been hyping up the dramatic love triangle, but I’m cautiously optimistic that it’s not really gonna end up being a dramatic, drawn out, triangle on the actual show
I really want the triangle to be solved by about 315. The media hype for it is getting exhausting. We’ve barely had any spoiler that are non-triangle related in so long. And in a show where true love is an actual thing, not just words that get tossed around, I would hope it resolves sooner rather than later.
And Emma and Neal have so much crap to sort out, it’ll be a slow journey for them getting to know each other again. There’s already enough drama and angst between all three of them without them have to stick Emma in between them in a romantic tug of war.
Agreed. And it’s going to rough and long but if true love were easy, then everyone would have it.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 1, 2013 at 11:33 am #220448Slurpeez
ParticipantRG posted this spoiler in another thread, but I’ll speculate here because of SF thoughts/conjectures/hope:
Can Once Upon a Time fans hope for something good for Swan&Thief in one of the next episodes? –Viviane
In the very next episode, airing this Sunday, you’ll get a surprising development on the Emma/Neal front. Whether it’s a “good” development… well, you’ll have to wait and see.While I’m glad to have at least a mention of SF (since the media seems to have forgotten about them), this is still really vague. What exactly does a “surprising development” mean anyway? I think it does hint that we’ll be getting a SF reunion. “Whether it’s a ‘good’ development” or not could be read in more than one way. Is it or isn’t is good for SF because once Emma reunited with Neal, she just can’t reconnect with him in a positive way? Or is it the case that CS fans won’t see it as good, because Emma does reconnect with Neal in a positive way? Hmmmm….
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
November 1, 2013 at 11:38 am #220451RumplesGirl
KeymasterWhile I’m glad to have at least a mention of SF (since the media seems to have forgotten about them), this is still real vague. I think it does hint that we’ll be getting a SF reunion. Is the writer taunting us SF fans thought of CS fans? “Whether it’s a ‘good’ development” or not could be read in more than one way. Is it or isn’t is good for SF because once Emma reunited with Neal, she just can’t reconnect with him in a positive way? Or is it the case that CS fans won’t see it as good, because Emma does reconnect with Neal in a positive way? Hmmmm….
Yeah I’m frustrated by the media too. They spoiled the heck out of the that kiss but this only gets a passing vague reference. I get that the kiss is HUGE in the eyes of the marketing team who make it their job to bring in viewers but I sorta wish Matt would be a little bit more open. But my money is on it being both good and bad. I think no matter what it is, it’s going to be angst filled. Emma is angry and devastated and in love with Neal and has lost her son and she just had a smoochie with Hook. Girl is emotionally torn in all directions. Parental issues, co-momma issues with Regina, desperation to have Henry back, in mourning over Neal, and still trying to be a leader. The fact that she just hasn’t sat down in the middle of the jungle and given up is quite impressive. Its and A and E script. It’s going to be emotional, whatever else it may be.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 1, 2013 at 12:48 pm #220483Slurpeez
ParticipantI think it’s just in relation to Emma finding out Neal’s alive (via the broken mirror is my guess) but won’t be able to communicate with him because it’s broken.
You’re probably right. No need to make a mountain out of a mole hill. We know a SF reunion is headed our way. It’s just a matter of the details/how it plays out that is open to question right now.
Its and A and E script. It’s going to be emotional, whatever else it may be.
True that. There is a reason “Manhattan” is one of my favorite S2 episodes.
On a happy note, since we were discussing a SF family road trip in the yellow bug, here is a fun poster I found on Tumblr
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
November 1, 2013 at 12:58 pm #220484RumplesGirl
KeymasterLOL Cute poster
Saw a note on Tumblr but in 206 Tallahassee Emma learns that Neal left, though she doesn’t know the reasoning. In 306 Ariel Neal comes back to Emma and they can begin to piece together just why they were torn apart all those years ago.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 1, 2013 at 3:07 pm #220502RumplesGirl
KeymasterA little something I found on Tumblr
1) Swanfire—the entire fairytale (fate) vs. reality (choice) surrounding their relationship is A++. And if we’re going to talk about individual journeys, the writers have done an excellent job in giving them both agencies—their choices led them to where they are now—while at the same time making their overall journeys intertwined since birth (by some twist of fate).
Another little something I found on Tumblr
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