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You know, since the marketing department cannot be bothered, some fans have taken matters into their own hands! I’m still shaking my head that the ONCE twitter staff was so fast to confirm the Henry, Neal and Belle posters were not official, but so slow to release any of them (or even respond at all to questions on where they are 2 weeks after saying they were “tinkering” with them still, 2 months after the others released). They’ve not even put up an Ariel or Regina as Ursula screenshots or anything for the next episode last I checked in the little box of pictures on the left of the screen.
[adrotate group="5"]“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
I just wanna *HUG* you people. Big, squishy, group hug with Neal in the middle.
I get that everyone interprets these characters in their own, subjective way, but so often it seems that people have an agenda when they go out of their way to twist what we’ve actually seen in the show. If someone’s done bad stuff, then yes, judge them on that. But to twist things around so much and turn Neal into a vilified character, when what we have actually seen in the show is him being a selfless, lonely, abandoned victim for most of his life, who has understandable self worth issues as a result, it just makes me SMH. There were posts on the forum recently about how people wanted to see Neal locked up and Rumple having the only way to set him free, and having him just walk away and leave him, and apparently it would be poetic, and it made me so raging mad that I couldn’t even reply. Because yes, the kid who has had a long life full of suffering due in no small part to his father’s actions, which is why he has good cause to not instantly trust him in present day, let’s have his father beat him down and leave him for dead one more time, because that would be so freaking poetic. Or something.
GAH, I need to stop typing before I get out of control ranty right now, but I know I’d just be preaching to the choir. You people get it. You people get Neal. You people don’t think he’s perfect, but recognise that he doesn’t think he’s perfect either, he’s real, he’s flawed, he’s trying to make up for his mistakes, and he is one of the characters who most deserves to finally get their happy ending.
As far as a Neal centric ep, I’ve suspected for a while that 307 might be it, so I’ll be interested to see what the promo for the next ep reveals.
Just saw this on tumblr and wanted to post it here because WORD…
I think it’s really funny when people say that Emma and Neal getting back together is a bad idea because it’d be too obvious or something. Yeah, it is obvious they’ll get back together. Why is it obvious? Because they’ve been writing their story since nearly the beginning of the series. There is a reason people guessed Baelfire would be Neal. Because it is tragically poetic. Them being endgame is only obvious because it is written that way.
I just wanna *HUG* you people. Big, squishy, group hug with Neal in the middle.
Let’s do it! Big group SF/Nealfire hugs!!!! *HUGGGGGGGSSSSSS*
You people get Neal. You people don’t think he’s perfect, but recognise that he doesn’t think he’s perfect either, he’s real, he’s flawed, he’s trying to make up for his mistakes, and he is one of the characters who most deserves to finally get their happy ending.
He’s human. He is one of the most human characters on the show.
As of 305, I actually think it’s really interesting how close his and Bae’s stories are. Both had parents who abandoned them, both found new families with a sibling (the Darlings being Bae’s foster sibling family) but then both lost those too. Everyone always focuses on the parallels between Emma and her two men but we hardly ever stop to think about the parallels between the men themselves. They aren’t that different. When we officially met Neal (as Neal) in 205 it was as a thief. We met Hook as a pirate. Pirates and thieves are not that different. And I’m not one for parallels but these two men are a lot more alike than we imagine. The one thing that I think is different and is important is that despite being abandoned by his father, Killian Jones had a family for his whole life until his brother died (due to incredibly stupid circimstances. Sorry but 305 was a very flat episode for me, totally outside of shipping). Bae had this brief moment of happiness for maybe a month and then was left almost wholly alone for the rest of his life. Which is much closer to Emma’s story who had a family until she was three and then got sent back because they didn’t want her anymore.
But yes. Nealfire hugs all around. He’s my second favorite character and I *adore* him.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"The abandonment issues here between both characters are what makes this such an amazingly romantic story for me. It reminds me of the quote from The Perks of Being a Wallflower: “We accept the love we think we deserve”. I don’t think Neal ever thought he deserved Emma, always half expected that she would leave him (a la Rumple and Belle) and thus never thought she’d forgive him, and didn’t go after her. He accepted Tamara, because he felt like she could be his last hope for happiness, even if it wasn’t what he truly wanted.
What a great line! Sums it up perfectly. Neal is like all human beings.
THIS! One of the many CS arguments that SF isn’t true love, is that Neal is simply a plot device for all the other characters since he has no story of his own. All the other characters have had their own story lines without him, or about/for him, so he obviously must not be important except to stand in the way of other characters happiness. I see this in quite the opposite way: His story is *central* to all the other characters, he is the one that brings them all together! And without him, we wouldn’t have this show. Rumple wouldn’t have become the Dark One, he wouldn’t have manipulated Regina into being the Evil Queen and casting the curse, which led to Snow and Charming sending Emma through the wardrobe, to Emma being in the foster care system, and eventually finding Neal to fall in love with and having Henry. How can anyone say he’s not important? And I think that being in Neverland and having to face his past will prove to everyone how important he is, and how strong of a person he truly is. He’s facing all of his fears in order to find Emma, even if she doesn’t accept him. I can not see how his story wouldn’t have a happy ending, when all he ever wanted was a happy ending for everyone he’s ever known.
This is an argument that I roll my eyes at. Boy oh boy…the reasons that people come up with to discredit Neal. You have a great point. Neal is central to the story and what motivates all the characters he’s connected to. Without him there would be no story to tell. His personal conflict with his father is what sets into motion everything else that happens.
Another one that I roll my eyes at (though not really SF related) is Neal is always criticizing his father when he has also made wrong choices. Uh…Rumple’s wrong “choices” involved torture and murder! Either from minor slights, vendettas, deal-breakers, threats, or pure pleasure. The last thing he saw his father doing was physically abusing Dr. Whale for fun. I LOVE Rumple, but I don’t excuse his actions. The fact that Neal is brave enough to tell it like it is to his father is exactly why I admire him. It’s pretty much just like the Charmings taking the hit when they tell it like it is to Regina, from some die-hard Evil-Regals. Neal “bad decision” in leaving Rumple behind involved the safety of his son. Rumple admits that he was planning on killing a child to save himself. (The only saving grace was because Henry was Neal’s child) We saw Rumple almost kill Henry but was only interrupted. He knows what his father is fully capable of. Trusting Rumple with his son was a gamble that he was not willing to make since Rumple has shown no evidence (thus far in Neal’s perspective) that he has changed, even the slightest.
I just wanna *HUG* you people. Big, squishy, group hug with Neal in the middle.
Yep hugs all around. Finally people that get Nealfire!
Just saw this on tumblr and wanted to post it here because WORD…
I think it’s really funny when people say that Emma and Neal getting back together is a bad idea because it’d be too obvious or something. Yeah, it is obvious they’ll get back together. Why is it obvious? Because they’ve been writing their story since nearly the beginning of the series. There is a reason people guessed Baelfire would be Neal. Because it is tragically poetic. Them being endgame is only obvious because it is written that way.
http://schmacky.tumblr.com/post/65843581856/i-think-its-really-funny-when-people-say-that
Mmmhm. Both Bobby and JMo were told right at the start about Nealfire and the role he played in their lives. And without trying to make any sort of broad “endgame” statements: Hook’s casting call was for a reoccuring role only. It was only after Colin started shooting that they decided to keep him around. Sometimes I see some false information floating around different places that Graham was supposed to be Hook, but this isn’t true. He was supposed to be Sherlock Holmes but they couldn’t get the rights to that. But Nealfire was always planned, from the start.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Look! I found a pretty thing!
In which we have a teenage lost Princess who meets a Thief. Together they share in an adventure that inadvertently brings her back home.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"They made 4 gif sets of the Tangled/SwanFire parallels:
1) http://cimrk01.tumblr.com/post/65407470757/in-which-we-have-a-teenage-lost-princess-who-meets
2) http://cimrk01.tumblr.com/post/65490113095/in-which-we-have-a-teenage-lost-princess-who-meets
3) http://cimrk01.tumblr.com/post/65576781059/in-which-we-have-a-teenage-lost-princess-who-meets
4) http://cimrk01.tumblr.com/post/65672668015/in-which-we-have-a-teenage-lost-princess-who-meetsI got a kick out of them because Tangled has sorta been claimed by the CS camp as being one big, parallel to their ship. But these gif sets show that there are plenty of parallels between that movie and our ship as well. Which just goes to show what I always say about parallels, that there are certain story elements that are tried, tested, and true, that are used over and over again in every love story ever. So parallels can be fun, but they can hardly be used as proof of endgame.
They made 4 of those gif sets of Tangled/SwanFire parallels:
1) http://cimrk01.tumblr.com/post/65407470757/in-which-we-have-a-teenage-lost-princess-who-meets
2) http://cimrk01.tumblr.com/post/65490113095/in-which-we-have-a-teenage-lost-princess-who-meets
3) http://cimrk01.tumblr.com/post/65576781059/in-which-we-have-a-teenage-lost-princess-who-meets
4) http://cimrk01.tumblr.com/post/65672668015/in-which-we-have-a-teenage-lost-princess-who-meetsI got a kick out of them because the CS camp likes to claim Tangled as one big parallel to their ship, and these gifs prove that there are plenty of parallels to our ship as well, which just goes to show what I always say about parallels, that there are certain tried, tested, and true story elements that gets used over and over again in every story ever. If you’re looking for them, you’ll find parallels for everything. So they can be fun to notice, but they’re not proof of endgame or anything.
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