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[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
Not to continue the debate but wanted to put this out there. I’m on the west coast and just read all this when I woke up. As another poster said maybe all we can really expect out of life is a bittersweet ending. And bittersweet it will be for many of our beloved characters now that Neal is gone. Anyone who has ever lost a loved one knows the void that will be felt FOREVER.
That doesn’t mean that life won’t continue (indeed it must) or that the characters won’t ever be happy again. And they do deserve to be happy. BUT SO DID NEAL. I could argue he deserved it more than most but that’s a separate issue. Regardless of how one feels about Neal, regardless of ship, we all watch the same show. And I think we all want good writing and story lines that feature and display our favorites.
Neal/MRJ got the shaft! I’ve never seen a character treated so dismissively by a writing team. The episodes leading up to his death and the episode itself was awful! It was poorly done. It is even more grievously felt because Neal was their creation. Their own fairy tale. They created him, Emma and Henry. And this was their master plan? This was how they wanted to end Baelfire’s life! I can believe it! Very hard pill to swallow.
Just to address the whole Neal represented the “real world” fairy tale in this whole show and people die in real life argument I keep seeing. I 100% disagree. He was a born in the EF. Spent how many years in never land? He’s at least 200 years old. Father the dark one. Grandfather Peter Pan. His TL is the TL daughter of Snow and Charming etc etc. He was not the real world version. If anything he was the EPITOME of a fantasy character. So why cant we expect a fairy tale ending for him?
And again created by A&E and this is how they treat their character? It’s offensive to those who loved his character. And we were meant to love him. A&E wanted us to love him. They wanted us to love him and Emma together even if they weren’t going to end up together. They wanted us to be invested in his character. Every episode, every interview they have done up until they killed him tells us they wanted us to love him.
Rant over.
Neal/MRJ got the shaft! I’ve never seen a character treated so dismissively by a writing team. The episodes leading up to his death and the episode itself was awful! It was poorly done. It is even more grievously felt because Neal was their creation. Their own fairy tale. They created him, Emma and Henry. And this was their master plan? This was how they wanted to end Baelfire’s life! I can believe it! Very hard pill to swallow.
Especially when A and E went to MRJ specifically to play this part. They’ve only done that with two others: Bobby (and they never in a million years expected Bobby Carlyle to actually take the part) and Ginny.
Just to address the whole Neal represented the “real world” fairy tale in this whole show and people die in real life argument I keep seeing. I 100% disagree. He was a born in the EF. Spent how many years in never land? He’s at least 200 years old. Father the dark one. Grandfather Peter Pan. His TL is the TL daughter of Snow and Charming etc etc. He was not the real world version. If anything he was the EPITOME of a fantasy character. So why cant we expect a fairy tale ending for him?
I would also argue that SF isn’t as “real world” as is often said.
Daughter of true love. Son of darkness.
The breaker of the curse and the reason for it.
Fate, Destiny, Prophecy.
All of that is in the very fabric of basic fairy tales and story telling.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"And indeed I love him very much.
I think from Neal pov he would want his family to have happiness and not waste away. So yes they will get a bitter sweet happy ending and they will continue to live their lives. So I do wish his family to find happiness in life but give honor and respect to memory of Nealfire.
But seeing how things are going I doubt that will occur.
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
If Neal was a real world sort of death he would died a real world sort of way, but his death was not realistic to our world. It involve dark magic, body merging and magical de-merging. We can not apply real world logic to death that was completely magical and illogical by our standards. That’s one of things about this show they claim real and fantasy when its convenient to them and their story.
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
And indeed I love him very much. I think from Neal pov he would want his family to have happiness and not waste away. So yes they will get a bitter sweet happy ending and they will continue to live their lives. So I do wish his family to find happiness in life but give honor and respect to memory of Nealfire. But seeing how things are going I doubt that will occur.
it does seem as he is already forgotten. Again. He got the shaft. Such a horrible ending for such a wonderful thought out character. My hope that they will bring him back has faltered this last 24 hours. I do want him to come back. PLOT or no plot. Nealfire makes this show better. I lost him and my favorite TV show. Because I can’t watch without him.
So beautiful… *cries*
Peace offering
Try to look at these images while listening to this song :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q54MOToQ7Bs
"Whatever spot you pick, that’s our home." #BelieveInTallahassee #HopeForRogueBison
Especially when A and E went to MRJ specifically to play this part. They’ve only done that with two others: Bobby (and they never in a million years expected Bobby Carlyle to actually take the part) and Ginny.
I did not know that! I have been trying not to believe that this was CS pandering but geez! A&E created Neal, specifically wanted MRJ. Why do this? a million different ways they could have advanced the story line without killing him so why? Why? I’m losing hope. ……..
Especially when A and E went to MRJ specifically to play this part. They’ve only done that with two others: Bobby (and they never in a million years expected Bobby Carlyle to actually take the part) and Ginny.
I did not know that! I have been trying not to believe that this was CS pandering but geez! A&E created Neal, specifically wanted MRJ. Why do this? a million different ways they could have advanced the story line without killing him so why? Why? I’m losing hope. ……..
There was a fake casting call for “Jack” to throw people off, but they brought MRJ into the office, sat him down next to a poster of Bobby as Rumple, pointed to it, and said, “that’s your father.” A and E had been big fans of him from True Blood and Terriers. He was their choice.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Especially when A and E went to MRJ specifically to play this part. They’ve only done that with two others: Bobby (and they never in a million years expected Bobby Carlyle to actually take the part) and Ginny.
I did not know that! I have been trying not to believe that this was CS pandering but geez! A&E created Neal, specifically wanted MRJ. Why do this? a million different ways they could have advanced the story line without killing him so why? Why? I’m losing hope. ……..
There was a fake casting call for “Jack” to throw people off, but they brought MRJ into the office, sat him down next to a poster of Bobby as Rumple, pointed to it, and said, “that’s your father.” A and E had been big fans of him from True Blood and Terriers. He was their choice.
I never watched terriers but I loved him on true blood. I was so excited when I saw him in the season 2 premiere. He’s a great actor. Better really than what they have written for him on the show. Such a waste of an actor and a character.
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