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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • April 13, 2014 at 11:54 am #261106
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    F. M. L. Too many feelings.

    Sorry 🙁

    *hugs her shipmates*

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    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 13, 2014 at 12:02 pm #261107
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    Emma Swan – Swanfire – If You Say So

    This one really touched my heart. It’s a really excellent song whose lyrics speak from Emma’s perspective as she laid Neal to rest. It’s beautiful and tragic all at once. I really think when Emma buried Neal, she buried her idea of happily ever after. Neal was her true love, the father of her son, and her dear friend.  She loved him and she always will. Her heart may begin to heal in time, but there will always be an ache in the pit of her stomach when she thinks about what could have and should have been.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    April 13, 2014 at 12:15 pm #261109
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    This one really touched my heart. It’s a really excellent song whose lyrics speak from Emma’s perspective as she laid Neal to rest. It’s beautiful and tragic all at once. I really think when Emma buried Neal, she buried her idea of happily ever after. Neal was her true love, the father of her son, and her dear friend. She loved him and she always will. Her heart may begin to heal in time, but there will always be an ache in the pit of her stomach when she thinks about what could have and should have been.

    🙁 :'(

    heartbreaking

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 13, 2014 at 12:25 pm #261113
    ouatrandothoughts
    Participant

    I can’t stop thinking about how fatalistic and depressing killing Neal off is…and how it doesn’t encourage growth in ANY of the characters. Ugh, I wish I could just get over it, but I can’t.

    "Death cannot stop true love...it can only delay it awhile."

    April 13, 2014 at 12:30 pm #261115
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    I can’t stop thinking about how fatalistic and depressing killing Neal off is…and how it doesn’t encourage growth in ANY of the characters. Ugh, I wish I could just get over it, but I can’t.

    Don’t worry. Neither can we.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 13, 2014 at 12:32 pm #261116
    ouatrandothoughts
    Participant
    ouatrandothoughts wrote:

    I can’t stop thinking about how fatalistic and depressing killing Neal off is…and how it doesn’t encourage growth in ANY of the characters. Ugh, I wish I could just get over it, but I can’t.

    Don’t worry. Neither can we.

    I started reading the Hollywood Reporter interview with A&E and I’m literally shaking with anger at them. [insert expletives here] HOW CAN THEY BE SO FLIPPING SMUG IT MAKES ME WANT TO PUNCH A WALL.

    "Death cannot stop true love...it can only delay it awhile."

    April 13, 2014 at 12:37 pm #261117
    Rainbow
    Participant

    I can’t stop thinking about how fatalistic and depressing killing Neal off is…and how it doesn’t encourage growth in ANY of the characters. Ugh, I wish I could just get over it, but I can’t.

    Agree, in fact Neal death only makes all the other characters have an oc behaviour in order to find their happy endings. Would have been better to kill neal last year, bc the characters all acted as in pain for his death, now they all look like nothing happened( just like the cast towards MRJ) and simply don`t care, and everything seems rush, also in the NVL arc was connected to neal would have made sense that the characters mourning him, but OZ is not connected to neal what so ever, the only connection was that Zelena was responsable for his death. Just hope that they dont redeem Zelena in the end and all live like a happy family while no one will ever remenber neal.

    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

    April 13, 2014 at 12:56 pm #261119
    dontstopbelievin
    Participant

    Hmm, Phee, that was pretty much my finding. The only thing I found was this article, but it seems to have a source of the TVLine article and just infer from there. Wonder if the fanbase just took it as spoiler canon? It is interesting to me that so little was really said about the spoiler of doom, literally one quote, and yet we heard so many things extrapolated from it. Not sure the post I was going to write is actually relevant, so I may try to attack it from another angle tonight.

    Regarding the above gifs, those make me want to curl into a ball and cry. That song – the phrase “be careful what you wish for” in general, really – has a crap ton of meaning in my life. (Yeah, the “some you don’t want” is apparently where I live… I have learned to be VERY careful what I wish for.) Incidentally I thought of it with OUATiW’s midseason finale – “Be very careful what you wish for, Will.” Anyways, the interesting thing about that song *for me* is that it’s “Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it all, you just might get it all, and then some you don’t want. Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it all, you just might get it all…” There’s the wish, the getting, and what you don’t want. But then there’s the wish again, with just the getting. Perhaps it only makes sense to me, because it’s my life – or maybe the hope in my life – when I am mired in the “some that you don’t want” that AFTER that you do indeed get it all. (Oh, and irony? I just now learned that OUAT quote is from the episode titled “Home,” same as the song title. Hah. Sounds about right. My life is so weird. No wonder I get this show. :/)

    Anyways, so I had a nice vacation (which is good, I was kind of dreading it, family drama and all), did a ton of thread back-reading so I am now in the mid-300s… funny to see the things that were spot-on and so far off during hiatus. I had a funny experience, which I shared in chat, but thought I would stick here in the thread too. I left on Sunday afternoon and was displeased, since I did not want to go in the first place and I REALLY did not want to wait until Thursday to watch 316 (I just wanted to rip off the darn bandaid.) On the way to the airport, not that long of a drive, we passed exits for both “Neil Avenue” and “Cassidy Ave,” which I thought was funny. Then at the airport they had a billboard for Cassady-something consulting group, saw that while I was at Starbucks getting my hot cocoa lol.

    I was in the car, heading to the airport to come home, and was thinking about getting home that night, if we would have time to watch Once before roomies had to go to bed, thoughts started drifting to SF etc etc. Of course “Don’t Stop Believing” came on the radio, I laughed, it was well-timed as I considered the future for SF and of course it is my SN here. I drove into the parking garage as it finished and the reception fizzled as I got lost. After a few minutes, I found the proper return location and as I pulled in the reception came back… to Dido’s “White Flag.” I started cracking up – Don’t Stop Believing, I will go down with this ship, got it. I am sure the car return dude thought I was insane as I was grinning about nothing.

    After that, I walked into the airport and got stuck behind a slow-moving family with a little girl, she was maybe about two. I was still giggling about the songs in the car, and pondering SF randomness, when they happened to call the little girl by name – Charlie (Charley?) Seriously almost laughed out loud at the family. The FUNNIEST part was that I separated from this family, checked in, went through security, and sat at my gate for probably an hour listening to music and various flight announcements, as we had a delay.
    Something jogged my memory about the earlier sequence of events – perhaps a flight announcement about the flight at the next gate, headed to Phoenix? – and so I pulled out my phone to type a note so I could remember to share later. I KID YOU NOT, right as I typed the child’s name, that family walked up and right past me! (This was not a small airport and they could have been on ANY flight, so I did not expect to see them again!) I am certain I looked insane as I burst out laughing for “no” reason at the gate.

    I am of the opinion that God amuses himself by laughing at me, and that incident was no exception. At least I’ve learned to have a sense of humor about it. 😉

    Anyways, speaking of listening to music, in traveling I heard about 47 thousand songs with my iPod on shuffle. (I take great comfort in Florence & the Machine’s “Shake It Out” – “It’s always darkest before the dawn…“) I came across a song, not sure if it has ever been discussed with respect to SF, but if not, um, it is necessary. Whenever Neal returns, someone needs to make a video, but it needs the happy ending first. I was cracking up listening to this on the plane, it went from “Hmm, I wonder if this fits SF” in the first verse to “Magic? Yeah, this is them” in the second verse to “!$@#$@$^#&$$ PHOENIX!!!” in the bridge. Because, seriously!!! Bolding is mine.

    Love Is All (Marc Anthony)

    When you hold me like this
    So many memories fill my eyes
    The first time we kissed
    The times we nearly said goodbye
    But still here we are
    Tested and tried and still true
    And stronger than we ever knew

    Love is all
    The laughter and the tears that fall
    The mundane and the magical
    Love is all
    All is love
    The careless word, the healing touch
    The getting and the giving of
    All is love

    There’s a me you’ve always known
    The me that’s a stranger still
    The you that feels like home
    And the you that never will
    But still here we lie
    Tender and trusting and true
    With everything that we’ve been through

    Love is all
    The laughter and the tears that fall
    The mundane and the magical
    Love is all
    All is love
    The careless word, the healing touch
    The getting and the giving of
    All is love

    All the glory
    All the pain
    All the passion
    That turns to ashes
    Only to rise again

    Love is all
    The laughter and the tears that fall
    The mundane and the miracle
    Love is all
    All is love
    The careless word, the healing touch
    The getting and the giving of
    All is love

    More rambles later. I have Things To Say before tonight’s episode but first I have a 4 year old’s birthday party to attend.

    Cause this story needs some mending & a better happy ending...

    April 13, 2014 at 1:17 pm #261122
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    More rambles later. I have Things To Say before tonight’s episode but first I have a 4 year old’s birthday party to attend.

    I enjoyed your entire ramble. 🙂

    As for the Spoiler of Doom….I don’t know. There are so many interpretations we could come up with in regards to what each quote or non quote means.

    But I think Adam’s  tweet/comment about wanting to work with MRJ again in the future means that they love him and think highly of him, but they don’t plan to have him on the show anymore.

    Whatever little spark of hope I had yesterday basically died

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 13, 2014 at 2:24 pm #261129
    Ranisha Pitts
    Participant

    I can’t have hope,  OUAT taught me to not have hope in things such as this.

    "I will be kind but I will speak my mind."

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