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Is it September yet??
We’ll all going to be dead by then. And in about month the real spoilers start rolling in.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"As far as Emma is concerned, here is how I predict her love life will unfold. I posted this view on a different thread based on S3 spoilers, so I’ll have to shield it:
As for Captain Swan, they're stuck on a boat together, so in that sense, they're literally on a ship. But that doesn't mean they're just going sail off into the sunset and just forget about Baelfire. Hook would want to honor Baelfire's memory, and therefore, he'd have to take things slowly with Emma while she grieves. Also, Hook is a smart man; he knows Emma was in love once, and probably with Henry's father, Neal. Also, Hook knows how long grief over lost love lingers (after all it's taken him centuries to get over Milha). And I doubt Emma would just jump into a romantic relationship with Hook while she's grieving the loss of Neal and desperately searching for Henry. While I see the making of a beautiful friendship between Emma and Hook, I don't think they're end-game. Also, if Bae ever re-enters the picture (as we know he certainly will), then I believe Hook would step aside in order for Bae to be with Emma. Hook at least owes Bae that much, since after all, Hook stole Bae's mother from him (even if he said they intended to return for Bae when he was older). It would just be unforgivable if Hook, who claims Bae is like his own son, stood in between Neal and Emma. So, I predict that Hook will develop feelings for Emma, Emma will feel attraction to Hook but won't act on any feelings because she's reeling over the loss of Neal and Henry. Then, Neal will reappear and Hook will gallantly step aside (fingers crossed).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
@slurpeez108 wrote:
As far as Emma is concerned, here is how I predict her love life will unfold. I posted this view on a different thread based on S3 spoilers, so I’ll have to shield it:
As for Captain Swan, they're stuck on a boat together, so in that sense, they're literally on a ship. But that doesn't mean they're just going sail off into the sunset and just forget about Baelfire. Hook would want to honor Baelfire's memory, and therefore, he'd have to take things slowly with Emma while she grieves. Also, Hook is a smart man; he knows Emma was in love once, and probably with Henry's father, Neal. Also, Hook knows how long grief over lost love lingers (after all it's taken him centuries to get over Milha). And I doubt Emma would just jump into a romantic relationship with Hook while she's grieving the loss of Neal and desperately searching for Henry. While I see the making of a beautiful friendship between Emma and Hook, I don't think they're end-game. Also, if Bae ever re-enters the picture (as we know he certainly will), then I believe Hook would step aside in order for Bae to be with Emma. Hook at least owes Bae that much, since after all, Hook stole Bae's mother from him (even if he said they intended to return for Bae when he was older). It would just be unforgivable if Hook, who claims Bae is like his own son, stood in between Neal and Emma. So, I predict that Hook will develop feelings for Emma, Emma will feel attraction to Hook but won't act on any feelings because she's reeling over the loss of Neal and Henry. Then, Neal will reappear and Hook will gallantly step aside (fingers crossed).
I like this. Let’s do that. 🙂
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Yet Hook once said “A man unwilling to fight for what he wants, deserves what he gets” Would he be so hypocritical to just step aside when he wants Emma?
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix@PriceofMagic wrote:
Yet Hook once said “A man unwilling to fight for what he wants, deserves what he gets” Would he be so hypocritical to just step aside when he wants Emma?
I think Hook’s grown quite a bit since then. He’s even willing to put aside his hatred of Rumple and his need for revenge for Bae, to honor Bae’s legacy. If he recognizes that Bae and Emma are meant to be then he may be honorable enough to step aside.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@RumplesGirl wrote:
@PriceofMagic wrote:
Yet Hook once said “A man unwilling to fight for what he wants, deserves what he gets” Would he be so hypocritical to just step aside when he wants Emma?
I think Hook’s grown quite a bit since then. He’s even willing to put aside his hatred of Rumple and his need for revenge for Bae, to honor Bae’s legacy. If he recognizes that Bae and Emma are meant to be then he may be honorable enough to step aside.
Agreed. He had a turning point in the season finale, he’s beginning to try and be a better man, and not taking women that other men are in love with would be part of that. By all means, fight for what you want in life, but there’s a right way and a wrong way, and deliberately hurting someone to get what you want is the wrong way. This is all part of what Hook is beginning to learn.
He knows first hand what it feels like to be kept apart from the one you love, and I don’t think he’d wish that sort of heartache on Milah’s son (someone we know he has cared for) once he sees how Nealfire feels for Emma, (and sees that Emma also has feelings for Nealfire in return).
He’ll remember how Bae begged to go back to the Darlings, who he considered family. He’ll remember how Bae didn’t want to stay on the JR because he was bitter that Hook had broken up his family. And he’ll see the family that Nealfire has begun to build and now wants with Emma and Henry. And Hook will know how desperately Nealfire’s been searching for that, and for how long, so he’ll do the right thing and not stand in the way.
That doesn’t negate his line about fighting for what you want, it shows character growth, and that he’s realising there are other things worth fighting for. What Hook wants now more than ever is to prove himself as a better man, willing to let things go, (instead of holding onto them with a vengeance and refusing to ever let go, which he has discovered just leads to being miserable and lonely, something Emma pointed out to him in the finale). If he’s gonna fight for his new goal in life, he’ll ultimately do the right thing by Nealfire, even if part of him thinks it’d be good times to keep keeping on with Emma.
That will be his challenge, and the decision he’ll have to make. That will be his fight for what he now truly wants. I think that to have him still pursue Emma, even knowing how much it would hurt Nealfire, would be a detriment to Hook’s personal development.
It’d be like Regina all over again, when she couldn’t get a clue and kept doing the same things over and over, all the while claiming, “but I’m not the bad one, I’m not doing bad things, it’s not my fault other people are in pain, it’s their own stupid fault.” That ended up annoying me with Regina and I’m not even an EvilRegal. If they did the same thing with Hook, it would completely frustrate me.
People can’t control how they feel though. Hook may think the right thing would be to stand aside and let Bae and Emma be together, but how he feels about Emma may prevent him from doing that. Hook’s not going to be able to leave Emma alone, he may try, but he’s always going to wonder is she okay, is she happy? I could see Hook keeping an eye on Emma from a distance, not letting her see him, but just checking up on whether or not she’s happy. The problem for him comes if he sees her unhappy, say she and Bae had an argument, what does he do? Should he just leave her be or should he talk to her and see what the matter is? Hook can’t not get involved with Emma even if he tries not too.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI agree–Hook has to have some character growth, as does Neal, and Emma.
I don’t see Emma feeling comfortable getting physically close to Hook until they have at least found Henry and aren’t all trapped together with her parents, Neal’s father & Regina. I kind of suspect that Emma will know Neal is alive long before they find him. Henry will tell Emma that Neal is alive (because of the nightmare room), and there will be a struggle on her part to believe Henry. That’s where we will see the conflict in Hook. He’ll have to choose between helping Emma to find Neal, despite having this attraction to her. It will sort of put him in the reverse of his position with Milah. Instead of a woman begging him to take her away from her son’s father, she will beg him to take her to him.
The show already started Bae off in a sad, angsty, angry state. Neal would have no character growth if he acts like he did at 14 when he tried to attack Hook. Neal is not that confrontational–rather the opposite. Neal is not shown ever asking where is that rat August or yelling at Emma about the Evil Queen having adopted his son (not that he should, but I saw fans speculating he would be a jerk to Emma about it, but he was not portrayed as blaming Emma in the least for the EQ). He makes one wry comment about the stolen money. He does not want to talk to Rumpel because he is angry (though he is willing to confront Rumpel to protect someone else, like Emma or Dr. Whale). He asks Emma if tying up Hook is a problem–but given how they parted, that’s far more concern than 14 year old Bae had toward Hook. He gets angry, sure, but he’s not some hot head who thinks with his fists.
He wouldn’t be happy to see Hook having a thing for Emma, but I don’t think we’re getting a full-on triangle. For one thing, when asked about Emma/Neal/Hook triangle, A&E said “maybe a rhombus”. So I’m not sure of anything as we don’t have all the puzzle pieces, and we are not meant to be sure at this point in the story. Yet I definitely agree with Phee and RG that Hook has grown, and it is about more than choosing romantic love over vengeance, but in his ability to care about others besides himself.
If we only ever saw Emma and Hook’s perspectives on things, I might feel differently, but because we see scenes from Neal’s point of view also, I don’t think he is going to be written as sulking in the corner while Emma and Hook give a new meaning to “Jolly” Roger. That is not very fairytale.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
I want to add one other thing, since I hadn’t seen Price’s post before I posted mine. What would Hook do if Emma seems sad? Nothing. If he ends up being written as her friend, then he will not be written as moping on the sidelines any more than Whale was written to have any lingering affection for MM or David for Katherine. Writers only play that kind of scenario out if they want to keep the triangle going (and going, and going, like How I Met Your Mother…or friends). Depends on what they want to do with the story, but at this point, they have not shown enough affection/attraction between them to lock them into anything.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
@PriceofMagic wrote:
People can’t control how they feel though. Hook may think the right thing would be to stand aside and let Bae and Emma be together, but how he feels about Emma may prevent him from doing that. Hook’s not going to be able to leave Emma alone, he may try, but he’s always going to wonder is she okay, is she happy? I could see Hook keeping an eye on Emma from a distance, not letting her see him, but just checking up on whether or not she’s happy. The problem for him comes if he sees her unhappy, say she and Bae had an argument, what does he do? Should he just leave her be or should he talk to her and see what the matter is? Hook can’t not get involved with Emma even if he tries not too.
I don’t think they need to sever all contact. Like I said earlier, I’d ideally like to see an amicable parting of the ways for CS, where they still remain close friends, but are aware enough to both realise that Emma still has real feelings for Nealfire, and are mature enough to realise that what they (CS) truly have with each other is a deep friendship, but nothing more. A friendship that they both value, and both need. One of those friendships where you know you don’t have to explain yourself, because it’s like you share a brain, so the other person already totally knows what’s up with you if you’re going through something. Basically, I’d love to see CS as BFFs, without benefits.
I’d also love to see CaptainFire work out their crap and develop a beautiful bromance.
@KFChimera wrote:
He gets angry, sure, but he’s not some hot head who thinks with his fists.
Ah, I wouldn’t blame him for letting one frustrated punch off though, like Charming did to Whale for shagging Snow. 😉 Hook would probably respect him for it too, fighting for what he wants and all that.
Seriously though, I think that Nealfire will be able to emphatically state his case when it comes to how he feels about Emma, and about potentially seeing her with someone else, especially if that someone else is Hook, without having to rant and rave and get violent about it. He probably wouldn’t have to say much, because his true feelings would be written all over his face, as I don’t think he’s in the mindset any more where he’ll be trying to hide them. I don’t anticipate that any sort of triangle-ish conflict would be really drawn out, (at least I hope not). I’m hoping that the best way forward for all three of them will be acknowledged before it gets outta hand. That also plays into my wanting CS to remain friends and CF to become friends, because if things end up really drawn out, bitter and nasty, that couldn’t happen.
@KFChimera wrote:
I don’t think he is going to be written as sulking in the corner while Emma and Hook give a new meaning to “Jolly” Roger.
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