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Just saw the fb promo for yay S4. and I’m excited for s4. BUT.
Did they HAVE to use the same image and edit Neal out? I mean…they could’ve put SOME effort into it if they were gonna go to that trouble.
Salt in wounds, man.
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Just saw the fb promo for yay S4. and I’m excited for s4. BUT.
Did they HAVE to use the same image and edit Neal out? I mean…they could’ve put SOME effort into it if they were gonna go to that trouble.
Salt in wounds, man.
Who is Neal?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"It’s all about the second chances, of course.
Second Chance to reuse that poster, this time without being forced to include Neal!
Second Chance to have him DIEEEEEE!
Second Chance to have him be separated from his family.
Second Chance to forget all about the Darlings.
Second Chance to forget all about how brave Neal was, all along, and pretend the “circle of cowardice” was unbroken until that moment despite: Neal leaping a shadow to head back to NL, to face “hands down” the nastiest person, Pan, after getting shot by his ex-fiance for standing up to her over her crazed mission to eliminate magic. He had reason to hate magic, but he tried to do the right thing. Lets not forget his bravery in facing his father, a man who hurt him deeply when he broke his trust years before. Or the time he stood up against Cora and Regina, or even just Regina, rather than running away and hiding (like someone else we could mention who apparently, couldn’t turn on Cora or challenge her, something even Aurora did). Oh, let’s not forget emotional bravery, the ability to take responsibility for your actions, apologize, and accept it might take time for someone to trust you again rather than demanding instant closeness. Long before all that though, we had Bae’s risking a new world if it meant saving his father, willingness to go to war, and going with the shadow to save the Darlings. So yes, Second Chance to forget all of that happened.Second Chance to have Neal silently accept Hook’s categorization of things, in a way that makes both he and Hook appear slightly misogynistic. I’d buy Neal was grateful for Hook’s help in NL, even if he said “I knew I could trust you, after you helped my son. I was wrong, you could change.” Why not give Neal that line, instead of the ridiculous how does it feel to be a hero/villain stuff, and clap-trap about “a woman”.
Second Chance to invent some horrible plot device magic that involves bad CGI (guess that’s not a second chance, as they keep doing that).
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
slurpeez, your theory from several pages back is made of WIN. Seriously, the plot point of a letter being left in the hope of changing events so someone’s life can be saved in the future is such a major plot point in BTTF that I’ll honestly be a bit surprised if they don’t use it on the show. If Hook’s the one to write the letter, it’d be a full circle moment from Neal sending him the dove note. It would show him attempting to SAVE the kid as redemption for having given him up in NL. It would prove that he’s genuinely over the vendetta against Rumple if he sneaks him a note to genuinely help him in the future. I can just imagine Rumple tearing up a letter from Hook the same way Doc tore up Marty’s letter, only to stick it back together later and take the precautions to prevent the death. GAH, it would all work so beautifully, if only I could trust that the writers really might do it. *sigh*
It’s all about the second chances, of course.
Second Chance to reuse that poster, this time without being forced to include Neal!
Second Chance to have him DIEEEEEE!
Second Chance to have him be separated from his family.
Second Chance to forget all about the Darlings.
Second Chance to forget all about how brave Neal was, all along, and pretend the “circle of cowardice” was unbroken until that moment despite: Neal leaping a shadow to head back to NL, to face “hands down” the nastiest person, Pan, after getting shot by his ex-fiance for standing up to her over her crazed mission to eliminate magic. He had reason to hate magic, but he tried to do the right thing. Lets not forget his bravery in facing his father, a man who hurt him deeply when he broke his trust years before. Or the time he stood up against Cora and Regina, or even just Regina, rather than running away and hiding (like someone else we could mention who apparently, couldn’t turn on Cora or challenge her, something even Aurora did). Oh, let’s not forget emotional bravery, the ability to take responsibility for your actions, apologize, and accept it might take time for someone to trust you again rather than demanding instant closeness. Long before all that though, we had Bae’s risking a new world if it meant saving his father, willingness to go to war, and going with the shadow to save the Darlings. So yes, Second Chance to forget all of that happened.
Second Chance to have Neal silently accept Hook’s categorization of things, in a way that makes both he and Hook appear slightly misogynistic. I’d buy Neal was grateful for Hook’s help in NL, even if he said “I knew I could trust you, after you helped my son. I was wrong, you could change.” Why not give Neal that line, instead of the ridiculous how does it feel to be a hero/villain stuff, and clap-trap about “a woman”.
Second Chance to invent some horrible plot device magic that involves bad CGI (guess that’s not a second chance, as they keep doing that).
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"slurpeez, your theory from several pages back is made of WIN.
Thanks! I was inspired this week after I re -watched all three movies of the Back to the Future series. Also, I read an interview from A&E in which they said BTTF is one of their all-time favorite screenplays ever. Hence, why the plot for 3×21 is basically a ripoff of the first BTTF film, in which we know that Marty wrote a note to Past Doc to save the life of Future Doc. It would be very exciting and wonderful if the writers decided to include that plot point in the finale to somehow change history to save Bae. Of course, I fully realize that the inclusion of this particular plot point may be wishful thinking on my part.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Slurpeez and Phee: I would love that, but it wouldn’t make up for 318 and Eva/Cora/Leo –nothing can, short of confessions from Ghost Cora that she lied when she gave Snow visions.
I think I have some of my best Polka-Dot-Circus Crazy Crack theory now for you tonight. Have you heard about Orphan Black? Given Hollywood’s tendency to follow a trend, I think Season 4 will involve the discovery of Hook clones. There wont’ be a point to it, other than pleasing shipper groups as once you put a ship together, it does get a little boring. So once Captain Swan is married, we’ll find out that Eric will die, so Hookriel of a sort can happen (she’ll get Hook #3, who loves the seas) and TinkerHook (She’ll get a more Officer Jones type, who wants to help people like fairies do) and so on, like Ory can come back and we can have a were-wolf Hook clone for Ruby, and of course, who needs Robin, we’ll have Robin Hook, a noble thief who falls for Regina. I mean, RC played how many versions of Rumple, pretty sure Colin can handle all the Hook clones.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Speaking of BTTF, that promo pic is suddenly reminding me of the photo Marty had of him and his siblings where they all faded out of the photo as the past was going wonky. But then Marty fixed the past and the photo went back to normal with everyone restored. I’m quite sure I’d be giving the promo goons FAR too much credit if I thought this was foreshadowing instead of cruelty. I’m just sayin’, now that idea is wedged in my brain, I can’t unsee the similarity.
That thinking fits so nicely with what I was pondering the other day, how in BTTF we see a name vanishing from a grave headstone as events get changed and Doc’s death is prevented in 1885. I got this whole image in my head of them showing Neal’s headstone with his name vanishing. Actually, doesn’t the headstone end up vanishing completely in the pic Marty had?
Stupid movies with so much death aversion giving me too many potential loophole ideas so I just can’t quit.
Slurpeez and Phee: I would love that, but it wouldn’t make up for 318 and Eva/Cora/Leo –nothing can, short of confessions from Ghost Cora that she lied when she gave Snow visions.
Oh even if they did pull off some fabulously BTTF-esque resurection for Neal, it wouldn’t make me roll my eyes any less at all the nonsense that has been 3B. But at least I’d be able to re-watch 3B without the same level of resentment I feel for certain plot points at the moment.
Phee wrote: That thinking fits so nicely with what I was pondering the other day, how in BTTF we see a name vanishing from a grave headstone as events get changed and Doc’s death is prevented in 1885. I got this whole image in my head of them showing Neal’s headstone with his name vanishing. Actually, doesn’t the headstone end up vanishing completely in the pic Marty had?
I had that exact same thought when I watched BTTF 3 tonight. You totally read my mind. The name on the headstone changed and then vanished. Hmmmm
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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