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Phee…thanks so much for sharing that! That was such a beautifully written post. Especially the last part. I always try to muster why Neal should get a second shot but I could not have written even half of what was posted here so eloquently. It’s just that awesome. Kudos to sassyzinger.
Was just reading a tumblr post that fits with some of what slurpeez was just saying…
Nobody on this show deserves love because love is not something the can be earned. Trust is. Respect is. But love? Love is a gift. It is something freely given, sometimes in spite of who we are or what we’ve done. And thank God it is because if not, none of our ships would sail. So, Hook deserves a second chance with Emma and is clearly going for it. Good for him. But so is Neal and if Hook and Regina and Rumple and every-freaking-body else gets a second chance at happiness then why shouldn’t Neal?
http://sassyzinger.tumblr.com/post/66571116212/a-rant-about-the-word-deserve
[adrotate group="5"]Was just reading a tumblr post that fits with some of what slurpeez was just saying…
A rant about the word Deserve Ok, I’m new to this tumblr beastie, but I’ve got to say something about this. I’ve been seeing this word pop up A LOT in the nealfire tag. Deserve. “He doesn’t deserve a second chance with Emma!” “He had his shot and he abandoned her!” “OMG Neal, would you stop talking about fighting for Emma, you didn’t before, why would you now!?!” Does Regina deserve Henry’s love? She’s killed people, tried to brainwash him, tried to kill everyone in town so Henry could be truly her’s and her’s alone. Does Rumple deserve Belle’s love? He’s killed, done awful things, and he kicked her out and chose power over her. Do the Charmings deserve Emma’s love? They chose to let her go when she was born and she grew up unhappy and unloved because of it. Does August deserve Geppetto’s love? He wasted his life, made selfish decisions, didn’t take care of Emma and ran away from facing his father after the curse broke. Does Hook deserve Bae’s love and affection? He had a hand- pun!- in Milah choosing freedom over her own son. He is part of the reason Baefire didn’t have a mother growing up. Does Rumple deserve Bae’s love? He was a coward turned power-crazed luny who killed people in front of his son and dropped him down a portal. Does Jefferson deserve Grace’s love? He chose to go back to his thieving ways and let her go to travel to Wonderland where he was trapped for years and years while Grace was alone, without her papa. And finally, why are we not all asking why Emma deserves a second chance with Hook? She abandoned him on the top of a bean stock to be left behind in Fairytale Land. Or maybe why does Hook deserve a second chance with Emma? He abandoned her to rot in a cell in Fairytale Land, never to see her son again. “Well that’s only because freaking Neal left her behind and abandoned Emma first!!!!! She was scared to trust because of what he did” Ummmm, excuse me, but if anyone is entitled to the I was traumatized so I made a terrible decision excuse, it’s Neal. He was abandoned by his mother, his father dropped him down a portal because Rumple was scared and wanted power, he had to let go of a wonderful family that took him in and loved him because of magic, he was betrayed by hook, left on an island to be harassed and psychologically battered by a deranged teenage boy and God knows what else he went through. Nobody’s denying that Emma was hurt because of Neal. but why is Hook’s pain romanticized and signed over and used as an excuse for the mistakes he’s made but Nealfire’s is dismissed? Nobody on this show deserves love because love is not something the can be earned. Trust is. Respect is. But love? Love is a gift. It is something freely given, sometimes in spite of who we are or what we’ve done. And thank God it is because if not, none of our ships would sail. So, Hook deserves a second chance with Emma and is clearly going for it. Good for him. But so is Neal and if Hook and Regina and Rumple and every-freaking-body else gets a second chance at happiness then why shouldn’t Neal?
http://sassyzinger.tumblr.com/post/66571116212/a-rant-about-the-word-deserve
I would like to marry this post, if you please
That post is fantastic, thanks for sharing! Yes, love is not something one earns but always it is a choice between two people. We know that love cannot be forced by magic. Sometimes people love because of things, sometimes despite things that happen between two people.
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"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"That Tumblr post needs to be reposted everywhere, framed with platinum, diamond studded, yelled at to every single fan who uses that work incorrectly, and married to everyone in this thread. Absolutely BRILLIANT. <3 🙂
I am highly bummed that I won't get to watch OUAT until later tonight but hopefully there's some really good stuff there to make my long wait worth it. 😀
#MoreBOOMLessGloomI’ve been meaning to say this for the past week but I just started a new job and so it’s been a little crazy. But I can’t even say how much I love coming on this thread and reading everything… every day it’s refreshing. I feel like this thread and the people in it are so full of hope, and have a soft heart. I’m so grateful for such an encouraging thread that is focused on lifting each other up. We don’t know anything about each other; our favorite colors, what we do, where we live, or whom we love. And I hardly ever even say a word on here. But I’m just so grateful and feel like this is such a safe haven of peace. No matter how anxious we are about Swanfire and everything happening, I feel like there’s a soft strength that exudes from this thread. I know it might sound SO weird. But that’s how I feel when I come here.
It’s almost as if through the pain, through even all our very vast & different life experiences, there’s no bitter root bulging up through anyone’s posts. It’s just, we keep on keeping on. Through the ups and downs of the emotions of this show, through the pain of the fandom or our own discouraging experiences within the fandom. In hope, in love, and in encouragement. 🙂 <3 And I love that. And it makes my day a little better coming here and reading the words all of you write./end sickeningly sweet sappy sentimental post
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Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.
I just wanted to say that I love you all and you all always seem to brighten my day a little. 🙂
I’ve personally had some hard times these past few months so it’s been nice to come somewhere I can be distracted and chat about a show that I love and see everyone else’s opinions on things. I also wanted to thank those of you that shed a different perspective on the whole flower tattoo thing. But that’s why I brought it up, I was hoping someone would give me another take on it and you have. So thanks for that. I love discussing Swanfire with all of you. I just wanted to say thanks how great you all are!
*cookies and hugs for all*
"We were happy."
"Because... it was born out of true love."*SF hugs all around* Posting pretty SF pics from Tumblr:
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Those are lovely! under two hours, east coast.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"*hugs and cookies* all round!
As Slurpeez’s quote from MM says–if two people are supposed to be together, they will find a way. I think we all know it might not be the easy way, but that is what makes it a good story.
That’s really what most of us want, a good story, where characters we have come to relate to manage to find some happiness despite the pain of their lives.
And while we cannot control what goes down in this story–I too am glad to have a group of friendly people willing to discuss it (in this thread, and the larger forum too….).
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
So do we think that Emma will have one on one conversations with both guys which ultimately leads to her reading the riot act to both guys and declaring that she will only ever choose Henry or something like that? Or will they be arguing with each other in front of her? Any ideas?
"We were happy."
"Because... it was born out of true love."
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