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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • May 12, 2014 at 9:35 am #268817
    Josephine
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    I predict 3,500 posts by summer’s end.  Anger makes us talkative.

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    Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

    May 12, 2014 at 9:41 am #268819
    theoniongirl
    Participant

    Didn’t watch the episode, but read spoilers. Couldn’t stay away. I needed to talk to somebody. 🙂

    (Side note: If the over-reaching theme of Season 4 is “Actions have consequences, which I hope it is, Hook’s “issues” may yet come home to roost. We’ll see. Or I won’t “see,” but I’ll read. *shrug*)

    Anyway, what I came back for: I was thinking about the last TV death I was really upset about (Trip on “Enterprise” … I don’t watch much TV, can you tell?) In the Star Trek novels, they completely ret-conned the death. (They did the same with Data’s in the “Star Trek: Nemesis” movie.) And there have been other times my brain has simply refused to acknowledge something like this (the Lone Gunmen in “The X-Files”) and in my personal head canon, it never happened.

    We have lots of really creative people here. Let’s put together our own ret-conned season 3B. And maybe even 4 and beyond …

    We could call it “Project Phoenix.”

    It doesn’t have to be a total script re-write, although it could go there if we eventually want it to do so. Starting out with the episode names of 3B, those interested could write a synopsis of each episode the way it should have been. Then if there’s still interest, we could write outlines of each episode. Then on to actual vignettes … and/or scripts.

    I think it would be cathartic. And even … fun? And Neal would live on in something more than our hearts.

    Thoughts?

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    “Though lovers be lost love shall not;
    And death shall have no dominion.”
    -- Dylan Thomas

    May 12, 2014 at 9:52 am #268821
    textbookone
    Participant

    Okay, so I’m still raging about the unbelievably stupid explanation about how how Hook got to Emma. I have no problem with him giving up his ship to get to her. I think that’s actually one of the few truly selfish things he’s done (especially with 317 in context), but A BEAN? A MAGIC BEAN?!? Let me get this straight, there were more magic beans out there, even though everyone had unequivocally stated that they were all gone, that there was NO WAY to get back to the LWM EVER? Um… excuse me?

    If there were more beans out there, no matter what the cost of attaining one (and let’s be real here, if all it took was trading a ship for one, I think between Snowing and Regina they would have been able to come up with SOME sort of comparable payment) then the following things would never have needed to happen:
    – Snow would never have needed to cast the Dark Curse.
    – Charming would have his actual heart.
    – Neal would never have needed to resurrect Rumple to try to get back to Henry and Emma. Think about that one for a moment. If there were more beans, and Hook knew where and how to get them (though there is always the possibility he didn’t find out about this until after the curse was cast), then Neal could still be alive.
    – For that matter, if Hook loved Emma so much, then why didn’t he try to attain said magic bean PRIOR to the curse to be with her, especially if he thought they were TL?
    – And going way waaaaaay back here, if there were beans, then Rumple would never have needed the original Dark Curse.

    What do you want to bet that a magic bean is the BECAUSE PLOT excuse they could use for how Walsh got to Emma 8 months before the curse?

    But seriously, if there were more beans, Neal could still be alive and a lot of this stupid mess with the Dark Curse would never needed to have happened. ALL BECAUSE PLOT. BECAUSE STUPID &%&*^$ PLOT!

    Oh look at me! I’m a magic plot device that grows in pods on a vine! I’m never there when you need me to stop you from doing foolish BECAUSE PLOT decisions, but I’m always there when you need a convenient excuse! Aren’t I wonderful!
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    Co-Mayor of Sad Town | Twin of Co-Mayor of Sad Town | #HopeforRogueBison

    May 12, 2014 at 9:59 am #268824
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    but A BEAN? A MAGIC BEAN?!? Let me get this straight, there were more magic beans out there, even though everyone had unequivocally stated that they were all gone, that there was NO WAY to get back to the LWM EVER? Um… excuse me?

    Yeaaaaaaaaaaaah.

    No beans anywhere!! Except when the writers needs one conveniently

    For that matter, if Hook loved Emma so much, then why didn’t he try to attain said magic bean PRIOR to the curse to be with her, especially if he thought they were TL?

    What a fantastic question!

    Oh look at me! I’m a magic plot device that grows in pods on a vine! I’m never there when you need me to stop you from doing foolish BECAUSE PLOT decisions, but I’m always there when you need a convenient excuse! Aren’t I wonderful!

    Laugh or cry? Laugh or Cry?

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    May 12, 2014 at 10:05 am #268827
    Onyx
    Participant

    Oh look at me! I’m a magic plot device that grows in pods on a vine! I’m never there when you need me to stop you from doing foolish BECAUSE PLOT decisions, but I’m always there when you need a convenient excuse! Aren’t I wonderful!

    I love your cynical sarcasm. <3

    Co-Mayor of Sad Town | Twin of Co-Mayor of Sad Town

    May 12, 2014 at 10:12 am #268830
    textbookone
    Participant

    I have decided that the magic beans had formed a union. They were angry at Rumple for wasting one of the last of their kind, so now they refuse to appear for Rumple, or anyone related to him. Hook is fine though. They think he looks pretty.

    Co-Mayor of Sad Town | Twin of Co-Mayor of Sad Town | #HopeforRogueBison

    May 12, 2014 at 10:15 am #268832
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    I have decided that the magic beans had formed a union. They were angry at Rumple for wasting one of the last of their kind, so now they refuse to appear for Rumple, or anyone related to him. Hook is fine though. They think he looks pretty.

    sounds 100% legit

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    May 12, 2014 at 10:16 am #268833
    Corbin
    Participant

    I seriously don’t understand the purpose of all this…BLEH! This is what I’ve taken from 3B:

    • Rumple is now married based off of a lie.
    • They have retconned A LOT of S1.
    • The family tree is now worse than soaps.
    • Neal died unnecessarily.
    • Regina loses everything.
    • …And now they’re tarnishing the newest Disney animated movie (no matter how cool the ice effects were).

    “#FrozenIsComing” my behind.

    Keeper of Thor’s Hammer, Will Scarlet’s Genie Bottle, Emma’s Gun, Emma and Henry’s Moment at the Castle, Cora, and the infamous Family Tree!

    May 12, 2014 at 10:19 am #268835
    textbookone
    Participant

    1) Let’s hope that the ratings are as frozen as their plot for s4.

    2) I wish I could find the lyrics to this song, but I wish, I wish I wish I wish:

    Co-Mayor of Sad Town | Twin of Co-Mayor of Sad Town | #HopeforRogueBison

    May 12, 2014 at 10:22 am #268838
    Onyx
    Participant

    Well he did, in the end. And what did he get for his troubles? A rose on a headstone from his son who didn’t even get to say a proper goodbye to him.

    Neal got Emma home. No one else did. Their love was their home.

    Co-Mayor of Sad Town | Twin of Co-Mayor of Sad Town

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