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Actually part me feels that Hook outward mourning was his attempt to try and bond with Emma. And he doesn’t seem to really be there for Henry at all, its more I want Emma so I’ll play nice with her son so I can get her???
That’s what I’m starting to wonder. Was Hook really mourning Bae or was he putting a bit of a show on for Emma? He did keep Bae’s sword for several hundreds of years and was willing to give up everything for him so I have to say that he must have felt something for Bae. But maybe that Bae’s all grown up, he might be looking differently at him?
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"Because... it was born out of true love."Ranisha Pitts wrote: Actually part me feels that Hook outward mourning was his attempt to try and bond with Emma. And he doesn’t seem to really be there for Henry at all, its more I want Emma so I’ll play nice with her son so I can get her???
That’s what I’m starting to wonder. Was Hook really mourning Bae or was he putting a bit of a show on for Emma? He did keep Bae’s sword for several hundreds of years and was willing to give up everything for him so I have to say that he must have felt something for Bae. But maybe that Bae’s all grown up, he might be looking differently at him?
The problem I’m having here are all of Colin’s interviews in which he stated that Bae was like a son to him. That it’s very complicated because Hook does care for Baelfire and would have given up everything for him.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"What if Hook did mourn Bae, but he acted that way more to commiserate with Emma so that they could get closer and bond over his death? I know that sounds kind of creepy and sneaky on Hook’s part (and I don’t really think that) but it was just a thought.
I didn’t want to think it when I first saw 3×1, but looking back now, I wonder if this whole thing, the way Hook has been trying to “bond” with Emma, hasn’t just been to win her over? He plays the part well of being a concerned “father figure” to Bae when it suits him, but as soon as Neal is actually back in the picture, it’s “you must choose” before Emma has even had room to breath? That scene where he gives Emma an ultimatum felt as contrived and as forced as when Emma kissed Hook as “tribute” for saving Charming. With Hook, he still just seems to be in it for himself.
Actually part me feels that Hook outward mourning was his attempt to try and bond with Emma. And he doesn’t seem to really be there for Henry at all, its more I want Emma so I’ll play nice with her son so I can get her???
Ugh, I really don’t want to believe that is all Hook’s motivation, but it sure feels that way to me. IF and when they get back to SB, is Hook really going to become the doting step-father to Henry after he failed in being a step-dad to Neal? Could Hook even stand to be “saddled” down with the responsibility of being a husband and a father? I have my doubts. He still checks out other women in front of Emma (e.g. Ruby in the delete S2 scene and Tink in NL). Plus, the sea is too much in Hook’s blood for him to want to become a full-time land-lover. Even with Milha, it was really all about Hook and HIS adventures on the open sea. Hook didn’t have any added responsibility of having to take care of Milha’s son either; they left that all up to Rumple to rear poor little abandoned Bae. I don’t think Hook would be a very good candidate for being Henry’s step-father.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
IF and when they get back to SB, is Hook really going to become the dotting step-father to Henry after he failed in being a step-dad to Neal?
I’m getting really tired of them dancing around the CaptainFire issue. Nealfire and Hook BOTH need to tell her their history. It’s important. No more sly hints about how long Bae was with him or if or if not Hook attempted a rescue or had dealings with Pan to keep Bae safe: someone needs to explain it all to Emma (and us)
Plus, the sea is too much in Hook’s blood for him to want to become a full-time land-lover.
*sigh*
*glances sadly at Hookriel boat*
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"he problem I’m having here are all of Colin’s interviews in which he stated that Bae was like a son to him. That it’s very complicated because Hook does care for Baelfire and would have given up everything for him.
I’m having trouble too reconciling what Colin has said about Hook versus what we’ve actually seen play out so far on screen. Maybe, Lord willing, Hook will have an epiphany before it’s too late when he actually realizes Henry’s life hangs in the balance? Will Hook empathize with Neal more when he sees what hurt Neal has lived with, in large part because of being abandoned by Milha and by Rumple? Doesn’t Hook feel in the least bit contrite for helping destroy Bae’s family as a boy and convicted that he’s standing in the way now of Neal trying to reconcile with Emma and Henry? I still want to believe Hook has it in him to care about someone else’s interests, namely Neal’s, other than his own. But after tonight, I’m sorry, I’m just feeling discouraged about the lack of Hook’s character growth. It just feels like he’s not learned a thing about real sacrifice.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Hey Guys! I’m a long time lurker but I’ve never actually posted until now. I love this thread and I am always like YES YES YES when reading your posts haha….Well this was a tough ole episode eh? I was quite upset with Hook tonight. I’m not really sure I buy into his whole good form speech and these last few episodes I have just seen him as a bit manipulative. Why did he keep the knowledge of the fountain from Charming… Yes Charming was stubborn at the end when he thought there was no hope for his survival but initially he was up for finding a cure. I agree with what you guys have said in that I don’t think Hook cares for Henry at all. I don’t believe that Hook told Emma about Neal for honourable reasons either, more like he is smart enough to realise that Emma would not be impressed if she found out Hook had kept that information from her. I loved Charming’s line tonight ‘love is sacrifice’. It just reminded me of Neal and Emma. When others say he abandoned her; I believe he made a sacrifice so that Emma could find her family and fulfil her destiny. Keeping hopeful 🙂
Why did he keep the knowledge of the fountain from Charming… Yes Charming was stubborn at the end when he thought there was no hope for his survival but initially he was up for finding a cure
Hook keeps giving out information piecemeal.
Oh the arrows are tipped with dreamshade
Oh there is a fairy here who might be useful
Oh there is a cave that Bae used to sleep in and might prove useful
Oh there is a magical water spout that cure you, Charming
I know it’s probably for story sake but…I’m a wee bit annoyed.
I loved Charming’s line tonight ‘love is sacrifice’. It just reminded me of Neal and Emma. When others say he abandoned her; I believe he made a sacrifice so that Emma could find her family and fulfil her destiny. Keeping hopeful 🙂
I CHEERED so loudly for that line. I instantly had SwanFire feelings
Hey Guys! I’m a long time lurker but I’ve never actually posted until now. I love this thread and I am always like YES YES YES when reading your posts haha….Well this was a tough ole episode eh?
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"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I just can’t believe that Hook would put that kind of pressure on Emma knowing that she has so much going on right now. At least Neal apologize for his actions. And of course hook made the duo into a trio, I think Neal and Emma would have been fine without Hook but I guess its sitll too soon for swanfire fans to get a team up.
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I loved Charming’s line tonight ‘love is sacrifice’. It just reminded me of Neal and Emma. When others say he abandoned her; I believe he made a sacrifice so that Emma could find her family and fulfil her destiny. Keeping hopeful
I CHEERED so loudly for that line. I instantly had SwanFire feelings
Yes, love is about sacrifice. Charming and Neal are a lot alike in that regard. Both Charming and Neal let Emma go to give her her best chance. Emma was just a baby when Charming scarified his life to put Emma in the wardrobe to go through alone. Charming was willing to let Snow go through the wardrobe without him for the sake of their child, even though it would’ve meant Snow growing old without him and him remaining frozen at a young age. “What’s 28 years when you have true love?” Likewise, Neal was willing to let Emma go for the sake of getting her home after he found out about her destiny. He didn’t do it out of any sort of maliciousness; he was sacrificing his own chance at happiness too, because he loves Emma. And Neal sacrificed himself for the Darlings, as well as for Henry so he wouldn’t have to grow up alone like Neal and Emma did. Neal is constantly doing the selfless thing. And now Neal is doing whatever it takes to save Henry. I’m sure that given enough time together, Charming will really take to Neal and be like a father-figure/brother to him, too. I have faith that once Charming realizes what a personal sacrifice the curse was to Neal that he’ll have sympathy, since the curse tore apart Charming’s family, too which meant he couldn’t be there for Emma either like he wanted.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Aww Thank you :)!! I was sobbing at what was a cute snowing moment and then BAM SwanFire feels. I literally hurt just looking at Neal’s reaction to Hook telling him about his kiss with Emma. I am just dying now for some Neal backstory and is Emma ever going to discover Neal and Hooks history at this rate?! 🙁
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