Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

[textbookone]

Not quoting anyone, because multiple people have been talking about it, but I 100% agree about Emma not really knowing Hook, not without knowing his history. It’s one thing to have a connection with someone, where you can claim something lame like “knowing their soul”, but that’s only one layer of a person, and if you don’t know their history, if you don’t know their past, how much do you really know about a person? They say that if you don’t know your history, you’re bound to repeat it. I wouldn’t be surprised if people start making the same mistakes again, more so than they already have.

That said, I’ve always thought that Neal and Emma just click so well because they spent months living in tight quarters with each other. As we saw in 322, Neal opened up to Emma pretty much from the beginning. I’m sure Emma was the harder nut to crack, the one who held personal information in longer, but in Tallahassee she was open and warm to Neal. Maybe I’m grasping at straws, filling in the blanks because we simply don’t know for sure, but how can you live with someone in the back of a car for months and not know them inside and out?

Maybe, given time Hook and Emma can get there, but right now they have nothing on what Neal and Emma had. He told her him name from the start, he wasn’t trying to be evasive or mysterious, he just opened right up. First date he tells her about his dad. Neal wore his heart on his sleeve and was just openly him from the start. The whole thing just sucks so much…

I don’t even know what I’m trying to say anymore. I’m just a jumble of words and feelings right now. Sorry for the word barf.

[lunatiger]

Ranisha Pitts wrote: Don’t get me wrong I like some hot flashy things too (former MadSwan shipper), but I love a overall good complex compelling well thought out and executed story more, Emma and Neal and Henry had that. It was something new, unique, different, complex, deep, endearing, and hopeful, but it wasn’t flashy, hip, and cool either.

I guess I need chemistry with substance. Chemistry alone doesn’t cut it for me and is very subjective. I find way more chemistry in the Neal, Emma, and Henry dynamic then Emma and Hook. Which always leaves Henry out. You remember Henry? The kid that’s Emma’s True Love? That brought her home like Neal did? That taught her about family like Neal did?  That’s an example of chemistry with substance. Showing a deeper meaning towards their interaction that was established in Season 1. Where was Henry in the finale? We barely even saw him, the kid that started it all.   -_- *Raging*

 

 

[RumplesGirl]

Where was Henry in the finale? We barely even saw him, the kid that started it all. -_- *Raging*

I really wish Henry had been in the EF with Emma. That’s a story I wanna see

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Phee]

Was just listening to Once Upon A Podcast, which is hosted by a couple of hardcore OQ shippers. One of them in particular was pretty much emotionally destroyed by the ending, but one of the things they said was how of course Regina can’t get her happy ending yet, because that won’t happen until the very end of the whole show. Going off that, I’ve made an executive decision about how I’m gonna cope with watching the rest of this stupid show, (because I know I’ll have to watch it right to the end). I’m just gonna watch it all with SF still as endgame in my headcanon. Dunno how, dunno when, don’t care how deluded it may be, that’s just what I have to keep in mind in order to get through the rest of it. And if the show finally ends for good, and there’s no Neal return, it’ll make it easier for me to just put the whole show behind me, but at least my deluded headcanon got me through watching the whole thing, and it will have made it more bearable to watch whatever happened as it was happening because I’ll believe that it’s only temporary and SF finding Tallahasse is still endgame. I think that’s the only way I’ll be able to watch this show without my heart continually breaking and raging over everything. Which is a sad state of affairs when I think back on how much I just genuinely loved the story, but it is what it is now. *sigh*

[Ranisha Pitts]

The thought of Henry and Emma in FTL aka EF sounds fun, as they try to fix grandparents joining together. Henry could have been the Marty McFly. Operation Cobra back on. I still want to know how Pan got that pic of Henry so long ago. Time Travel could have explain how Pan knows certain things.

"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."

[Onyx]

I’m just gonna watch it all with SF still as endgame in my headcanon. Dunno how, dunno when, don’t care how deluded it may be, that’s just what I have to keep in mind in order to get through the rest of it. And if the show finally ends for good, and there’s no Neal return, it’ll make it easier for me to just put the whole show behind me, but at least my deluded headcanon got me through watching the whole thing, and it will have made it more bearable to watch whatever happened as it was happening because I’ll believe that it’s only temporary and SF finding Tallahasse is still endgame.

Omg, yes that’s totally a great idea. Why didn’t I think of that. It’s the perfect way.

Co-Mayor of Sad Town | Twin of Co-Mayor of Sad Town

[Rainbow]

I dont know if this was already posted or not, also is from epi 320.

http://www.fempop.com/2014/05/06/once-upon-a-time-emma-gets-demoted-to-love-interest/

"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

[textbookone]

I dont know if this was already posted or not, also is from epi 320.

http://www.fempop.com/2014/05/06/once-upon-a-time-emma-gets-demoted-to-love-interest/

That was really good @Rainbow. Thanks for the link! Alex Cranz makes some really good points. I just wish there were more voices like this out there, and that they were loud enough to get more attention and respect than just “people whining because they don’t like things”. This was some of my favourite points:

It was a gradual shift, but one day Emma and Mary Margaret were no longer main characters. There was Regina, there was the menfolk, and then there was them. Their relationship on the show has suffered. Delicious mother/daughter drama has been left un-mined so the show can explore the motivations of wicked witches and dastardly pirates.

Emma in particular has struggled. While Mary Margaret has been sidelined, the few times she has been given a chance to guide the story its been alone, or in an effort to explore her relationship with Regina (and Ariel). Emma, on the other hand, has spent an entire season hunting for her son and dodging penises.

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[RumplesGirl]

I dont know if this was already posted or not, also is from epi 320.

http://www.fempop.com/2014/05/06/once-upon-a-time-emma-gets-demoted-to-love-interest/

Very well written and thoughtful.

What exactly has Emma done all season? Despite what Hook said, she didn’t defeat Pan, she didn’t defeat Zelena. She pretty much took a lot of long walks in the woods with various men in her life–David, Neal, Hook–and vacillated a lot about SB vs NYC.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[textbookone]

Going back and reading other reviews by Alex Cranz, I really appreciated this part of the review for 315:

There were two things the show and the actors consistently got right though. One was Gold and Neal. They were father and son and portrayed all the recrimination and reluctant affection that would be found between a former orphan and the father who had abandoned him. Neal was always at his best when he was calling Gold out for his selfishness and reminding him of why he didn’t want to have a conversation with him.

The other was Emma and Neal. There was history in their every interaction. Emma’s anger, confusion and love, and Neal’s wistfulness and longing for a romance he’d utterly destroyed by his own hands. They were always “what might have been” in a show that usually looked towards fate and the future for its romances.

And naturally in their final episode together they were at their best, sharing fun moments and grounding the oft operatic show in something sublimely real.

In losing Neal the show and Emma are quite alike. They’re not losing a great love or a critical character, but they’re losing the wonderful potential for something–someone–that could have been great.

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