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I was typing something larger on transit this morning and this part started happening. I don’t know yet if/where it will fit in the larger scheme of what I was writing, but I felt like sharing this now in case it turns into nothing.
I bought into the potential of their beautiful love story because I don’t have one of my own. I bought in to mantra of hope and happy endings because I live in fear everyday that I won’t get one of my own. I loved Neal and Swanfire for so many reasons, but among them being that I don’t need or want an epic love story with a charming and daring rapscallion or prince. I just want a solid love story, one that feels true down to my bones. I don’t need adventure, I just want home. I want to be with someone who’s arms feel safe, who is my equal. I want a love story with forgiveness and patience. I want to know that however we are separated, by time or by distance, that fate will bring us together again. It will take work, but we’ll be stronger for it in the end, and it will make us better people.
I have never seen a relationship on TV, a connection closer to what I want than Swanfire, and all the things it had the potential of being. Swanfire may not have gotten a chance to see through all these possibilities, but there was so much potential, so many ways it could have played out. Swanfire was my hope and my escape, but it is a story that will remain without the end I was so hoping for. It makes me look at my own life and wonder if that hope for a love story, that hope for a happy ending will be just as unfulfilled.
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It wasn’t planned. If you watch the commentary for Manhattan on the DVD, Bobby Carlyle talks about how MRJ approached him before the scene, and they hadn’t even really met before that, and asked if he should include the hand movement. Bobby encouraged him to do it. It’s great that really the first time Rumple and Neal meet was really the first time Bobby and Mikey worked together.
Favorite moment of S2 was that conversation.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Also, from that FemPop article about 3×20:
Clumsily positioning Hook as Emma’s sounding board when it comes to her post-Curse life and pointedly removing Regina from the conversation after their initial stakeout agreement. Dramatically it just doesn’t make sense. There’s no drama in Hook repeatedly telling Emma to stay and her repeatedly telling him no. Just the awkward fumblings of writers using characters like Barbie dolls, bobbing their plastic bodies up and down and spitting sophomoric romantic tropes out of their frozen little mouths before mashing them together to make kissy noises.
I agree with most of this perspective. Hook is like a duck out of water in SB. His presence, outside of his romantic in interest in Emma, makes little to no sense. Hook being the one to try and persuade Emma to remain in town made even less sense. Outside of his desire to be in a romantic coupling with her, what reason does Hook have to want to remain there? Hook could’ve just as easily have followed Emma back to NYC if she’d wanted him to, because he has no other ties to that town apart from his crew who don’t even wish to remain there.
You know who would’ve been the right person? Neal, would’ve been, as Henry’s father and as the son of Rumple. Emma and Neal could’ve talked about their lives in NYC and how great it was, but then Neal could’ve told Emma about his own reconciliation with his dad. Neal could’ve been the one to help reconcile with her own parents. Neal could’ve talked about the importance of family, and how he’d always wished he’d had it and he wished that for Henry. Even aside from their own potential romantic reconciliation, Emma and Neal both had multiple ties to SB. Neal being the one would’ve just made sense, since he was the one who told her about missing home in the first place.
Even Regina being the one to convince Emma to stay would’ve made more sense than Hook. Regina is now Henry’s only remaining co-parent. Regina talking to Emma about the importance of family makes way more sense than Hook because Regina IS family. Even if Emma couldn’t talk to her parents about leaving becasue of emotional proximity, Regina could’ve been that extra person, friend and fellow mother of Henry to help Emma weigh the pros and cons. Regina and Emma being platonic friends and co-parents who get along is something I actually wanted to see more of this half season, but that got put on the back burner after 3×22. Now we have to watch another year of tension between Henry’s moms. I thought we were past all that! The writers are running out of ideas, so they keep reenacting the same old ones by introducing plot devices like Emma stupidly bringing Marian to the future and Hook heeding her orders, despite his original protest.
Nothing in the show, not even a groaned “Papa” from Neal has been as excruciating to watch as Emma Swan losing her magic to save Hook and then, from out of nowhere, begging him to come back to her. Not after how fiercely she’s rejected him and put him at arm’s length. If the idea was to have Emma gruffly falling for Hook while sniping, like toddlers on the playground, then it failed. Her affection for him rockets out of nowhere and zooms away just as quickly. Taking a little bit of the audience’s affection for Emma with it.
Which is a shame, because once upon a time Emma Swan was the best character on the show.
I agree with this perspective too. Emma is being written as being all over the place. One day she’s hot, the next day she’s cold, and suddenly she’s back to hot by the finale. It just makes her look like a woman who doesn’t know her own mind, her own heart, or her own wishes. She has to be chased, which makes her look like the trophy to be won, rather than a woman who knows her own mind. One thing I’ll hand Regina is that she’s a woman in charge of her own destiny. Robin has made his romantic interest evident, but not in an off-putting way. Regina has likewise made her romantic interest be reciprocated in a mature fashion. Regina has as much reason, if not more so, to distrust the idea of a romantic interlude as Emma does, and yet Regina remained cool, composed and collected. By contrast, Emma has been written as a woman who at first rebuffed a man’s overt attentions but then crumbled under the relentless goading and cajoling.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
The destruction of Emma’s character is one of the main reasons I can’t watch the season finale or the show anymore. She was ABSOLUTELY my FAVORITE character on this show and the fact that they’ve reduced her to this current mess annoys the ever loving snot out of me. Where is the bada$$ bail bonds person who doesn’t take crap from anyone?! That Emma would have kicked Hook to the curb a long time ago without a second thought. She can still be awesome even though she’s a softie about her family now. I want that original Emma back. 😥
Random: Apparently a few OUAT cast members are at the ABC upfront stuff today and holy crap does JMo’s hair need serious help. Not only have they ruined Emma for me…now JMo’s hair looks awful!! This is just a horrible week for my fanning, LOL 😆
#MoreBOOMLessGloomWarning: this is very Tent of Doom:
I’m taking a ride on the conspiracy train, back to the Tent of Doom, after MRJ nodded to on the Waterfront–a story about a guy forced to lose a fight because of corruption and unfair dealing.
The writers are very “both sides of their mouth” about saying they had a story, but they had to leave room for creativity. They’re so sinuously creative with the words they pick and choose, that its hard to really know what they even mean–if they even mean anything other than: We’ll do what we must to keep our show on the air. We can’t plan ahead.
They may not follow polls, but I think they know which side of the bread the butter goes. More than that though? I don’t think they do have deep plans. I think it was disturbing in the last interview when they talked about how they felt like taking another toy off the shelf so now we get Frozen. I felt this moment I do with my children–NO, put the other toys away FIRST, then take another! That’s why their story is off kilter, they are like children grabbing at the shiny stuff, and while at first there’s fun and whimsy in that, eventually its chaotic and contradictory, because there’s a lack of cohesion in the story.
So in a story about “hope” and “second chances”–and True Love–we have a fan base actively rooting for Marian to die. I see people in chat just casually thinking this way, and odds are they are right. We won’t see Roland or Robin’s feelings on it–just Regina’s, and that’s all that matters to these fans and the show writers, just Regina. I however think there’ll be something even worse than a fast death for Marian, because I’m that cynical.
I think Emma will “set things right” by convincing Robin he doesnt’ “have” to stay with his wife, when he’s in love with Regina. So much for commitment, True Love trumps all! “You don’t have to stay together for your kid, just because you once loved each other, doesn’t mean you still do! I saw you and Regina…”etc. There’ll be enough subtext flying around that Emma is worried about Regina that SQ folks will be happy, even as CS/OQ fans are cheering on Robin and Regina’s eventual back-on-track romance. The only ones who will lose? Once again, those of us who kind of CARE about the side characters, morals, and things like that. Now don’t get me wrong–if they showed Robin and Marian as mismatched, not in love, I realize there’s love to be found in different family situations, that sometimes people aren’t right for each other. No one should be miserable for their kids, and I think if you love your kids, its healthier for all for happy coparenting from separate households, than miserable cohabiting, lots of arguments and such.
Yet it won’t be TOLD on screen why Robin and Marian suddenly mean zip to each other. And the way it is written, they will probably be used as proof that even if Neal lived, that Emma wouldn’t have wanted to be with him. I’m sure she’ll end up saying that more or less. I don’t know why, but I feel like there’s someone in the writers room who isn’t just content to tell the story of why Hook and Emma belong together now–but who HATES that anyone ever rooted for Neal and Emma.
The writers are retconning things left and right–literally changing the history of their own story!–and for some reason, I am worried they’re not done dumping dirt on Neal.“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
I’m taking a ride on the conspiracy train, back to the Tent of Doom, after MRJ nodded to on the Waterfront–a story about a guy forced to lose a fight because of corruption and unfair dealing.
Oh wow.
They may not follow polls, but I think they know which side of the bread the butter goes. More than that though? I don’t think they do have deep plans. I think it was disturbing in the last interview when they talked about how they felt like taking another toy off the shelf so now we get Frozen. I felt this moment I do with my children–NO, put the other toys away FIRST, then take another! That’s why their story is off kilter, they are like children grabbing at the shiny stuff, and while at first there’s fun and whimsy in that, eventually its chaotic and contradictory, because there’s a lack of cohesion in the story.
I agree with you 100%. They don’t have a long term goal but they are focused on “what can I play with next?”
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I’m taking a ride on the conspiracy train, back to the Tent of Doom, after MRJ nodded to on the Waterfront–a story about a guy forced to lose a fight because of corruption and unfair dealing.
Oh wow.
They may not follow polls, but I think they know which side of the bread the butter goes. More than that though? I don’t think they do have deep plans. I think it was disturbing in the last interview when they talked about how they felt like taking another toy off the shelf so now we get Frozen. I felt this moment I do with my children–NO, put the other toys away FIRST, then take another! That’s why their story is off kilter, they are like children grabbing at the shiny stuff, and while at first there’s fun and whimsy in that, eventually its chaotic and contradictory, because there’s a lack of cohesion in the story.
I agree with you 100%. They don’t have a long term goal but they are focused on “what can I play with next?”
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
“because it was born out of true love.” Belle French.
They are true love, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it. :p
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
What are they talking about this is EXACTLY how it HAPPEN! 😀
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
What are they talking about this is EXACTLY how it HAPPEN!
http://swanfireheart.tumblr.com/post/85660477646/so-how-about-that-drink-tallahassee-baby
WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO MY SOUL
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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