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[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
Josephine wrote:
It wasn’t planned. If you watch the commentary for Manhattan on the DVD, Bobby Carlyle talks about how MRJ approached him before the scene, and they hadn’t even really met before that, and asked if he should include the hand movement. Bobby encouraged him to do it. It’s great that really the first time Rumple and Neal meet was really the first time Bobby and Mikey worked together.
Oh wow I didn’t know Bobby mentioned that in the commentary. Awesome! Just as I thought!:)
Slurpeez wrote:
Emma is being written as being all over the place. One day she’s hot, the next day she’s cold, and suddenly she’s back to hot by the finale. It just makes her look like a woman who doesn’t know her own mind, her own heart, or her own wishes. She has to be chased, which makes her look like the trophy to be won, rather than a woman who knows her own mind. One thing I’ll hand Regina is that she’s a woman in charge of her own destiny. Robin has made his romantic interest evident, but not in an off-putting way. Regina has likewise made her romantic interest be reciprocated in a mature fashion. Regina has as much reason, if not more so, to distrust the idea of a romantic interlude as Emma does, and yet Regina remained cool, composed and collected. By contrast, Emma has been written as a woman who at first rebuffed a man’s overt attentions but then crumbled under the relentless goading and cajoling
YEP! ^^^^ She was just a mess this season when she didn’t need to be. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
kfchimerawrote:
They may not follow polls, but I think they know which side of the bread the butter goes. More than that though? I don’t think they do have deep plans. I think it was disturbing in the last interview when they talked about how they felt like taking another toy off the shelf so now we get Frozen. I felt this moment I do with my children–NO, put the other toys away FIRST, then take another! That’s why their story is off kilter, they are like children grabbing at the shiny stuff, and while at first there’s fun and whimsy in that, eventually its chaotic and contradictory, because there’s a lack of cohesion in the story.
I think Emma will “set things right” by convincing Robin he doesnt’ “have” to stay with his wife, when he’s in love with Regina. So much for commitment, True Love trumps all! “You don’t have to stay together for your kid, just because you once loved each other, doesn’t mean you still do! I saw you and Regina…”etc. There’ll be enough subtext flying around that Emma is worried about Regina that SQ folks will be happy, even as CS/OQ fans are cheering on Robin and Regina’s eventual back-on-track romance. The only ones who will lose? Once again, those of us who kind of CARE about the side characters, morals, and things like that. Now don’t get me wrong–if they showed Robin and Marian as mismatched, not in love, I realize there’s love to be found in different family situations, that sometimes people aren’t right for each other. No one should be miserable for their kids, and I think if you love your kids, its healthier for all for happy coparenting from separate households, than miserable cohabiting, lots of arguments and such.
Yet it won’t be TOLD on screen why Robin and Marian suddenly mean zip to each other. And the way it is written, they will probably be used as proof that even if Neal lived, that Emma wouldn’t have wanted to be with him. I’m sure she’ll end up saying that more or less. I don’t know why, but I feel like there’s someone in the writers room who isn’t just content to tell the story of why Hook and Emma belong together now–but who HATES that anyone ever rooted for Neal and Emma.
The writers are retconning things left and right–literally changing the history of their own story!–and for some reason, I am worried they’re not done dumping dirt on Neal.The writers are a bunch of five year olds. They open up a toy play with it, smash it up, then it’s on to the next shiny thing they see. It’s becoming clear as the seasons roll by that’s how they handle their writing. Pretty appalling. 🙁
Your tent of doom scenario is not far off from what I think either. I’m afraid they’re going to crap all over Marion’s character to get Regina her happy ending. Trying to stay positive but season 3 has made it very hard to ever watch anything coming out from these writers ever again.
Your tent of doom scenario is not far off from what I think either. I’m afraid they’re going to crap all over Marion’s character to get Regina her happy ending. Trying to stay positive but season 3 has made it very hard to ever watch anything coming out from these writers ever again.
I worry about this too, which is why I won’t be watching come fall. I hate how the writers have to create moral ambiguity just for the sake of it. I was perfectly content to enjoy Robin and Regina’s budding relationship, even if it has been a tad rushed. Bringing back Marian, whom Robin clearly still loves as his wife and the mother of his child, just threw an unnecessary and unwelcome wrench into Robin and Regina’s growing closeness. The writers just made it impossible for me to root for Regina and Robin, because I believe in the sanctity of marriage, especially when there is still deep love between the married couple.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Your tent of doom scenario is not far off from what I think either. I’m afraid they’re going to crap all over Marion’s character to get Regina her happy ending. Trying to stay positive but season 3 has made it very hard to ever watch anything coming out from these writers ever again.
I worry about this too, which is why I won’t be watching come fall. I hate how the writers have to create moral ambiguity just for the sake of it. I was perfectly content to enjoy Robin and Regina’s budding relationship, even if it has been a tad rushed. Bringing back Marian, whom Robin clearly still loves as his wife and the mother of his child, just threw an unnecessary and unwelcome wrench into Robin and Regina’s growing closeness. The writers just made it impossible for me to root for Regina and Robin, because I believe in the sanctity of marriage, especially when there is still deep love between the couple.
Yes. I think they’ll turn Marian into some sort of shrew in order to make Regina look better.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Going off that, I’ve made an executive decision about how I’m gonna cope with watching the rest of this stupid show, (because I know I’ll have to watch it right to the end). I’m just gonna watch it all with SF still as endgame in my headcanon. Dunno how, dunno when, don’t care how deluded it may be, that’s just what I have to keep in mind in order to get through the rest of it. And if the show finally ends for good, and there’s no Neal return, it’ll make it easier for me to just put the whole show behind me, but at least my deluded headcanon got me through watching the whole thing, and it will have made it more bearable to watch whatever happened as it was happening because I’ll believe that it’s only temporary and SF finding Tallahasse is still endgame. I think that’s the only way I’ll be able to watch this show without my heart continually breaking and raging over everything. Which is a sad state of affairs when I think back on how much I just genuinely loved the story, but it is what it is now. *sigh*
Thank you, Phee, for helping me figure out how I can cope with continuing to watch the show! 🙂 It’s always been very difficult for me to give up on stories I once loved even when they get really silly; I’m, unfortunately, just in too deep with OUAT lol
At this point, I hope Neal at least gets a cameo in the series finale…
We will meet again, in another life...
RG – everytime I hear the word or see a picture of a bunny, I think of you…and bunnies keep showing up on my Tumblr dash, so here is a gifty treat for our Keymaster (sticking it here cause I didn’t think we needed a bunny thread…that’s just weird… 🙂 )
RG – everytime I hear the word or see a picture of a bunny, I think of you…and bunnies keep showing up on my Tumblr dash, so here is a gifty treat for our Keymaster (sticking it here cause I didn’t think we needed a bunny thread…that’s just weird…
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Awww thanks Jenna!!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"If You Love Someone
If you love someone, you do what’s best for them, even if it’s not what’s best for you.
What Neal and Emma had wasn’t a romance, it was love. Complete and total, unconditional and selfless love. It’s not lust, nor romance. It’s not a spur of the moment thing. It’s love. Plain and simple.
Neal loved Emma. Period. There’s nothing else to it.
Now if one of the main themes in the show is, “True love conquers anything,” then why did they end one of the truest loves on the show?
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I just want to comment on three things before bed:
- Hook’s line in the finale (3×21), “One of these days, I’m going to stop chasing this woman.” Neal wouldn’t have ever said that. Neal would’ve let go the minute Emma did, because he loved her wholeheartedly. No snark needed.
- You know that this show has gone downhill when fantastic people like Slurpeez leave the show. All the magic, all the greatness of this show has left (if it hasn’t been retconned). A&E had such a vision…where did it go?
- To touch on this last point, I do hope all the people that are leaving will stay here. Even if I’m not happy about the direction of the story, I will stick with it until the end. Mainly because of this forum. To share a story I have only told about five people: I was almost kicked out of home during the hiatus. Back in May of 2013, my dad beat up my mom (with myself pushing him off). Social Services got involved, and it has left me traumatized since. I was almost put in a foster care system, and I went through hell the entire summer. I’ve lost a good amount of my friends that I’ve known for seven years. It came to a head in December when I told my dad how I felt. We ended up not speaking to each other for a week and I was so depressed. It was during the week before Christmas and, right before the weekend, I left after my family made it clear they didn’t want me. They called my friend’s mom to get me back, and things have been better. But, since then, I’ve called this place home. I come here every day, hang around the chat, and enjoy talking to some great people. When I leave the forum every day for something, there’s a feeling I can’t shake. I just miss it. So please, all those who are leaving this show, remember: this is home.
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