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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • May 15, 2014 at 9:05 am #269853
    RumplesGirl
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    Proof that she was wearing it at the start of the episode in SB. Proof that she still wears a reminder of Neal. (You can see it dangling down in the top screencap, and it’s on the inside of her wrist in the bottom screencap.)

    I LIKE PROOF!!!!

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    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    May 15, 2014 at 9:06 am #269854
    heatherc1275
    Participant

    Saw a tumblr post that said Emma had the swan pendant attached to Graham’s shoelace in the FTL stuff. I had a closer look, and it’s definitely there, but it’s not attached to the shoelace, she’s got both her necklaces wrapped around her wrist when she changes into the peasant clothes. Proof that she was wearing it at the start of the episode in SB. Proof that she still wears a reminder of Neal. (You can see it dangling down in the top screencap, and it’s on the inside of her wrist in the bottom screencap.)

    AHHH, that’s awesome. PHEE FOR THE WIN!!!!!!! 😀

     


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    May 15, 2014 at 9:19 am #269856
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    Hurray for the swan pendant!

    Also, this essay is spot on. Once Upon a Finale I Wish Never Happened

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    May 15, 2014 at 9:49 am #269860
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Great essay all around. Really loved this last sentence

    This is why Once Upon a Time pushes my buttons so much, but also why I won’t give up talking about it: this show shouldn’t get to claim its successes without claiming its many failures too

    Won’t be turning a blind eye to the failures.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    May 15, 2014 at 10:30 am #269866
    Phee
    Participant

    Also, this essay is spot on. Once Upon a Finale I Wish Never Happened

    *marrying that post*

    May 15, 2014 at 10:36 am #269868
    Marty McFly
    Participant

    Oh Marty, my heart broke extra for you. You’re screename told me you were a fan of the BTFF movies, and for them to reference THAT movie, of all things in a plot that screamed for Rumple to find a way to bring back his son, only to have him OOC shrug and give it up…

    Are you kidding? My heart broke worse than all of this thread put together. After 315 I stopped watching altogether UNTIL that is, I found out the “a curious thing” was taken from BTTF’s theme song “the power of love” that’s when I started watching again. I caught up all the way to 320 and was totally expecting to see a happy swanfire family at the end of 322. I was so sure of it! I ignored sad town I ignored the tent of doom, and all those bison and sharks and trains… I was ready to become king of happy town!
    *sigh*
    Because I believed in Doc and BTTF and Past!Rumple
    I was so excited to see Emma telling Rumple: I am from the future (the same words MM used when he told Doc Emmett Brown) I came here in a time machine that YOU INVENTED …
    *sigh*
    So I was sad and oh man I tried not to ever think about ouat ever ever again… I tried, but it was such a wonderful story. It had so much father/son potential!!

    I don’t hate you because even though you don’t quite get Neal the way others do, you at least cared about the story of a father and son, even to the point where THAT mattered to you more than just Rumple’s happiness.

    I just couldn’t wait for Neal to realize just how much his father did for him! I wanted it so much for that sad character who thought no one loved him… I wanted him to know his papa loved him and worked hard to find him even after that SPLIT SECOND mistake he made by letting hm go.. I wanted Neal to KNOW that it WAS only a split second mistake. He wasn’t forgotten by his beloved father. Oh crap…
    You know what really upset me? That no matter how they do fix it in the end (because of course Emma and Neal are the endgame) it won’t have the same emotional satisfaction as it did in 311. Henry is growing up… Neal hardly had 3 weeks with his son and now he won’t see him till he is an adult??

    People inthis thread hate me for being too harsh on Bae.
    Maybe, but I will always go for the parents’ side rather than the kids. (unless, of course were talking about parents like Cora, Milah or Pan)

    Neal promised Henry he’d be his father, that he would be there and if anything, this ridiculous plea from Emma to not take “dying a hero” away from Neal is a direct slap in the face to what Henry would actually want and who Neal actually was already. It’s Milah part 2 on her part, really, saying to Rumple he should have died rather than tried to be there for his son at the price of being labelled a coward.

    OMG!! You nailed it! Yes Emma is just a reincarnation of Mila! I am really starting to dislike her! Does she HAVE to have a man in her life for her to be happy? She was perfectly happy with Neal, and when he was gone, she was very VERY happy with Henry. And now… now Hook takes it all.
    The winner takes it all
    The loser standing small
    Beside the victory
    That’s her destiny

    I was in your arms
    Thinking I belonged there
    I figured it made sense
    Building me a fence

    Building me a home
    Thinking I’d be strong there
    But I was a fool
    Playing by the rules

    The Gods may throw a dice
    Their minds as cold as ice
    And someone way down here
    Loses someone dear
    a song by ABBA

    May 15, 2014 at 11:31 am #269876
    heatherc1275
    Participant

    #ThatAwkwardMoment when “What Hurts the Most” by Rascal Flatts comes on your music playlist and you start missing SwanFire all over again while sitting there staring at your computer screen wondering WTH happened to your favorite show. 😥

    *needs a bit of therapy this week* 🙁


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    May 15, 2014 at 11:32 am #269877
    textbookone
    Participant

    Saw a tumblr post that said Emma had the swan pendant attached to Graham’s shoelace in the FTL stuff. I had a closer look, and it’s definitely there, but it’s not attached to the shoelace, she’s got both her necklaces wrapped around her wrist when she changes into the peasant clothes. Proof that she was wearing it at the start of the episode in SB. Proof that she still wears a reminder of Neal. (You can see it dangling down in the top screencap, and it’s on the inside of her wrist in the bottom screencap.)

    While I’m really glad that Emma’s still wearing it, is it wrong of me that I don’t like her not wearing it as a necklace anymore? Since the Graham shoelace was a thing JMo chose, can we therefore assume that the costume department had removed the necklace from Emma’s wardrobe, but JMo chose to keep it around Emma’s wrist? Does any of that make any sense? It kind of says to me that they’re having her move on more substantially now, if she’s wearing the pendant in a much less visible place now. That’s not wrong, but I still wish they had addressed what impact Neal’s death had on her. Le sigh.

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    May 15, 2014 at 11:39 am #269879
    heatherc1275
    Participant
    Phee wrote:

    Saw a tumblr post that said Emma had the swan pendant attached to Graham’s shoelace in the FTL stuff. I had a closer look, and it’s definitely there, but it’s not attached to the shoelace, she’s got both her necklaces wrapped around her wrist when she changes into the peasant clothes. Proof that she was wearing it at the start of the episode in SB. Proof that she still wears a reminder of Neal. (You can see it dangling down in the top screencap, and it’s on the inside of her wrist in the bottom screencap.)

    While I’m really glad that Emma’s still wearing it, is it wrong of me that I don’t like her not wearing it as a necklace anymore? Since the Graham shoelace was a thing JMo chose, can we therefore assume that the costume department had removed the necklace from Emma’s wardrobe, but JMo chose to keep it around Emma’s wrist? Does any of that make any sense? It kind of says to me that they’re having her move on more substantially now, if she’s wearing the pendant in a much less visible place now. That’s not wrong, but I still wish they had addressed what impact Neal’s death had on her. Le sigh.

    Unless someone can confirm if she had the necklaces around her neck again once she was back in SB (still haven’t watched so I have no idea), I think she probably just moved them to her wrist so they wouldn’t mix up with the FT clothes that they had to wear while they were stuck in the EF. I guess you guys will have to wait and see if she keeps the necklaces on her wrist for next season or not but it wouldn’t surprise me if they were gone all together next year. Why bother keeping stuff around from when the show was actually good? *still bitter here* 🙁


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    May 15, 2014 at 11:40 am #269880
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    That’s not wrong, but I still wish they had addressed what impact Neal’s death had on her. Le sigh.

    I do wish we had more Emma mourning. Not because I like her in pain, but because it would stress just how much Neal meant to her. I mean–he’s the definition of HOME!! That was the whole point to the flashback in 322, HOME came from Neal. 🙁

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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