Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

[CrownedWithLaurels]

My cousin (and best friend) is coming into town this weekend for THREE WEEKS leading up to her wedding. She’ll be staying with us the whole time.  She started season 1 last fall but didn’t finish. I am rather unsure at this point whether or not I want to talk her into finishing season 1 and season 2… I really feel like I do because I want her to share the beautiful parts of the story with me. But at the same time, there’s no way I’d let her go past 2×22. Maybe, just maybe we’d make it to 3×11. But I just don’t think so. But I was thinking, maybe this is a way for me to make peace with the series. Just watch it through her, with her, and end it before it gets messy. End it where I want to end it, and believe what I want to believe. It would be hard, yes to get through those episodes. But I feel like it’s harder now… I feel like it would be closure. Just to pretend they don’t even exist. I’d want to go to at least where Neal and Rumple make amends, though. Sighhhhh. That’s the thing. That’s what we’ve all been saying. I can’t remember who in particular said this a few pages back, but it’d be easier if they set up swanfire as a tragedy from the getgo. But all of this hope and Tallahassee just totally foreshadowing Neal’s reappearance and his sacrifice, etc….. it’s just so much harder. I guess what I am trying to say now is that I think I’ve finally finished mourning the show. After 322, it really is over. But Neal… he lives on in the seasons before, and his setup is painful to even think about rewatching. But I think I have to. For Neal. For myself. To remember him, the way he was supposed to be. Sounds painful, but I think I need it. Adam and Eddy, sure, they’ve messed things up big time, but I can confidently say, I don’t think it was entirely their fault. Networks ruin shows all the time. But A and E did give us something before they bowed to ABC. It’s an unfinished work, and it will probably always be unfinished. But I want to live it like there’s nothing past 222/309/310. I don’t want it to be tainted.

All these things I ponder while making my decision… *sigh*

/ramble

[Ranisha Pitts]

I’m not sure your cousin would want that storyline after season 2, if she is about to get married? Especially if she likes Neal and/or SwanFire

"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."

[CrownedWithLaurels]

Yeah, which is why I said I refuse to show her anything past 311… and will probably only go til 222 and then show her the clip of Rumple and Neal hugging on the boat…I will make her promise to me she will never watch past it! lol

Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.

[Millie]

Yeah, which is why I said I refuse to show her anything past 311… and will probably only go til 222 and then show her the clip of Rumple and Neal hugging on the boat…I will make her promise to me she will never watch past it! lol

What if she really, really wants to see the episodes past 311?

We will meet again, in another life...

[Onyx]

Warning: rant coming up. I felt encouraged to write my own grievances down when I read that essay that Slurp posted. You may skip if uninterested.

Can anyone tell me why I’m still in pain? I thought by now, that I might have healed a little. But every time I log in here to post something, it all sounds snarky and bitter and sad. I don’t understand why, because it’s just a show, or so I try to keep telling myself. Yet I can’t shake this dire feeling. It’s not even about a ship anymore. I think it stopped being about a mere ship a long while ago. It’s the message. The message that Once sends its viewers. The bad guys get their happy endings and the good guys are allowed to play a part in their ever important road to redemption every now and then.

Hook, I can’t even. This character is so… He’s their shiniest toy of all. I used to like him really, honestly I did, but they’ve managed to make me resent him. Up until now I’ve never admitted it out loud, but Hook often reminded me of one of those guys on the street corner who whistle at you and when you walk by they cat-call, follow you around a bit, make you feel uncomfortable and in danger until they’ve had their fun scaring you and slink back into the shadows. That time when he was with Emma in the giant’s lair and she pulled him back to prevent him from triggering a trip wire. When Hook didn’t immediately let go, but in fact held on to her for several seconds more while she was trying to get out of his grasp, it was quite shocking to me and it left me feeling very uneasy. It reeked of harassment. But that was at a time where he was still a new character and I was willing to wait and see. Hook is now a mere shadow of the wonderful character JM Barrie created so long ago. The only thing connecting him to Barrie’s Hook now is the hook on his arm, which I suspect will soon enough be replaced by that leather gloved prosthetic hand, effectively making him Killian Jones, the entirely redeemed love of Emma’s life.

Yes Once twists its characters and turns them into their own versions, however, lately I feel there’s been too much twisting going on. So much so that they’ve basically stripped them down to the core and built their own versions around it. Don’t even get me started on how highly demeaning I found it how they dumbed down Snow during her entire pregnancy (and maybe even before that?). I felt insulted on behalf of all pregnant ladies around the world. As if when one becomes pregnant, one loses their common sense along with it. Snow was strong, confident and her own woman aside from Charming. This was one reason why I could get through the CS movie that was the finale, because for a brief moment, we were reminded how incredibly cool Snow was. All the characters have in common with their literary counterparts now are their names.

And then, something we’ve all joked about many times, but after three seasons of it, it’s starting to become less and less funny. Plot holes, loopholes and continuity errors. Create rules for yourself and STICK to them. Ok you don’t wanna kill Rumpelstiltskin (and let Bobby go)? Then figure out another fricken way to kill Pan. Here’s an idea, how about let the saviour come up with the solution for a change.

The dark curse. Heart of the thing you love most you say? Well how about the heart of the thing most convenient to plot, says Peter Pan.

Snowing living on with 2 half hearts? Romantic idea, but it completely diminishes the price of the curse. Ok yes not everyone can survive if they wanted to do the same thing, because Snowing’s love is special, but really, don’t create rules for one person and then change em for the next. Don’t create scenarios to which you cannot find a logical and honest solution.

Wand of the black fairy? Who on earth is the fricken black fairy??? If you want this wand to be taken seriously, create a story around it. What’s its origin? Why is it dark? How did Rumple get it? And how did the Blue fairy get it from Rumple? If you don’t back these things up with some sort of substance, the audience will not feel the weight of your so called wand of doom and dark magic and a dark fairy who we’ve never seen. It becomes a thing to ridicule. Oh look someone needs some powerful magic, better get the wand of the Black fairy. I mean… what??

Here’s another idea: how about you write something about her, the Black fairy? Yeah novel idea isn’t it? You want new characters, there’s one right there. Waiting to be written. Oh and by new, I mean new. Not an existing character who is also…

That whole ‘no they wouldn’t do that’ excuse I keep/kept telling myself no longer works either, because they would and they did. They wouldn’t do another triangle, would they? Yes they would. They wouldn’t make Emma do a 180 on Hook in the final 2 eps would they? Yes they would. The rug was pulled out from under me, when they did these things.

Normally I would’ve wished Once to go on for as long as possible, but now I’m kind of hoping s4 will be the last. Not out of any malice or spite, but more out of compassion almost. Like a terminally ill animal, just put it out of its misery. Stop digging holes for yourselves, stop ruining characters from great fairy tales we’ve all grown up with. Just stop it.

As for those who would say: don’t like, don’t watch. Well let me quote Jack Dawson to you: I’m involved now.

Co-Mayor of Sad Town | Twin of Co-Mayor of Sad Town

[Rainbow]

For me the show finale was 310, not even 311, im making my own final on 310. However, if by september i decide that bc of frozen i may go back watching live stream or read spoilers even if i dont see the show, my thought to go through the season will be that in my mind Neal/Bae was still not found, so 214 and all epis after  still didnt happened, so i will go that way, in that case the epis from 311 to 322 dont exist, and S4( if is the last) will come after 212 and then after 422 comes 213 to 310, that will be my way of going throught the show.

So if S4 is the final season this is how the show will play in my mind: S1, S2 until 212, 401 to 422( i may eliminate some epis about Cs in this season) and then 213 to 310. This will be the edit in my head if in september im still thinking about seing the show, which by now, doesnt look like i will,  i dont see since 314 and even before the epis ( 312-313) were for me very boring, so im kind of accepting this better than i thought, of course also helps i have more problems in my life than thinking about the show.

"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

[RumplesGirl]

*applause for Onyx*

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[textbookone]

@Onyx – As always Sad Twin, thank you for finding words to describe much of my own anger. *hug*

Co-Mayor of Sad Town | Twin of Co-Mayor of Sad Town | #HopeforRogueBison

[Onyx]

Thanks RG and thank you my dear Sad Twin, my words are by no means as eloquent as yours often are, but I try. *hugs*

Co-Mayor of Sad Town | Twin of Co-Mayor of Sad Town

[RumplesGirl]

Thanks RG and thank you my dear Sad Twin, my words are by no means as eloquent as yours often are, but I try. *hugs*

People don’t get how hard it is to swear off a thing that you’ve been so dedicated to. It’s easy to say “don’t watch” but it’s much harder to do it. Take Slurpeez for example. She didn’t want to watch anymore after 315, but decided to stick it out for the rest of the season to see Neal’s death would ever make sense or be reversed. They still don’t make sense (to me) and it’ll never be reversed. But the fact is, I got way more involved with this show than I intended and now I’m stuck. And my judgement of the show–as something once beautiful that has lost its way–is just as valid as those who would claim that the show is still perfect and wonderful simply because their ship/favorite character “won”

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

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