Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

[Corbin]

I’m grumpy. A few months back, when Hypable was doing their “Battleships” (pitting TV ships against others), I got into an argument with a CSer about Neal (who she labeled as BagelFire) before the Spoiler of Doom came to pass. She had said that CS was certainly endgame and I was there telling how that’s not necessarily true and that it was wrong for her to say that. She then went onto say how the online fandom was a minority and how CS is more popular with the GA. I argued a little more until I realized how there was no point.

Flash forward to four months later. I check my email and saw a Disqus notification. The wench replied FOUR MONTHS LATER just to gloat how Neal was dead and not coming back and how CS was canon (which I acknowledged in my initial arguments, which she said then was endgame. I’ll paste my reply below:

I never said CS wasn’t canon. In fact, I admitted that. I said that CS wasn’t necessarily endgame. One make out doesn’t make them TLs.

Also, it’s distasteful of you to gloat that a character you didn’t like is gone. You may not have liked him, but there are many people who are fans of Neal.

Oh, and to note on something, Emma was only able to get out of the past because of Neal. His definition of home brought back her magic. Because of Neal, Emma a.) got her memories back b.) set out to defeat Zelena c.) got her out of an execution and d.) brought her home. So, am I annoyed that CS is together (right after Emma said she wouldn’t kiss Hook then decided that the only way to save a drowning person is by mouth-to-mouth)? Yes. Do I believe they killed Neal off for CaptainSwan? Yes. But keep this in mind: your ship only got together because of mine. Neal has saved Emma countless amounts of times – even after death.

I swear, these are the people that get me angry.

[Ranisha Pitts]

@Phee UGH and FRUSTRATING because society guilt trip us into letting him down easy, don’t make scene, don’t hurt his feelings he just being nice, you should be glad a guy is interested in you, stop being a B!+ch to him, etc etc.

If turns into harassment  you have every right to call him out on that crap no matter what the media or society says.

 

"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."

[heatherc1275]

Huge *HUGS* to you Corbin. That really sucks. They certainly do know exactly how to rattle us and make us feel even more like crap, don’t they? Sorry you had an unpleasant experience there but total PREACH about what you said because that’s SO TRUE. Neal is still helping Emma even though he’s not physically with her anymore. I’m really proud of you for standing up to the bully. *fist bumps* 🙂

Seriously, our guy is DEAD. Why do some people still feel like they need to gloat, goad, ridicule, bully, laugh at, and demean the SF fandom!? We’re all ready broken hearted because our guy died a stupid, meaningless death, he never really got to be a father to his son, and the love of his life didn’t even want to bring him back when she had the most AMAZING opportunity to do it….good grief, what more do they want????!!! 😥

#MoreBOOMLessGloom

[Corbin]

Just wanted to post their response before I go crazy on them. Last comment I’ll post from the argument, by the way.

Wow, that’s a WHOLE lot of sour grapes from just one Bitter Betty right there. BagelSwan was NEVER gonna happen. The show made it completely obvious they’re the past, CS is the future. Even if Bagel had lived (to stand in the background IDGAF), CS would’ve still happened. Because BagelSwan was never really love, let alone true love.

Conversely, it’s quite apparent CS is…and since you’re wrong here and were wrong before, I’m completely confident in that. I only, BTW, mention Bagel dying because oh-so-many posters here insisted he wasn’t. And it, again, reflects on how I was right and they (including you) were wrong.

BTW, you’re really stretching that Bagel did all these things…he did, however, because he was a shortsighted idiot empower Witchee and enslave his father. He was not a hero, he was an idiot. But if it makes you feel better….because I do realize that’s all you have. That Bagel maybe indirectly caused something, while Hook actually achieved results. And, under your logic, Bagel’s still responsible for ruining Emma’s life (just as he always was).

But the one who saved Emma, as he has always done, is Hook. You lose. Again.

http://www.hypable.com/2014/01/25/hypables-battleships-once-upon-a-time-knockout-round/?onswipe_redirect=no&oswrr=4#comments

Keeper of Thor’s Hammer, Will Scarlet’s Genie Bottle, Emma’s Gun, Emma and Henry’s Moment at the Castle, Cora, and the infamous Family Tree!

[Slurpeez]

Just listened to the podcast for the finale, and major props to RG for expressing her perspective. She said how uncharacteristic it was of Past Rumple to drink the forgetting potion after he learned his son had died. I couldn’t believe other fans were so accepting of that notion, since it totally flew in the face of Past Rumple for the first two entire seasons. *heads desk*

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[Phee]

Thanks RG, Heather and Ranisha. I did consider replying that he had the wrong number, but then if he shows up at another game and is all, “I must have got your number wrong, what is it again?” then I’m in even deeper crap. *HEADDESK* He’s not an intentionally creepy or malicious type, I think he’s just legit clueless about what’s an acceptable way to behave and he can’t take a hint.

Corbin, I am so sorry you had to deal with that person. CSers have a few standard arguments that instantly get my hackles up, and that “he’s ALWAYS been there for her” is one of them. Did they all miss the bit where he left her in a cage to die? Or the bit where he sailed off with their last bean, leaving Emma to likely die then too? Some people need to check their facts and check themselves. Try not to let them get to you Corbin, but I know it’s REALLY hard to not reply with actual logic and facts a lot of the time.

RG, just finished listening to the podcast, and you’re my favourite, thanks for representing once again. *COOKIES*

[Slurpeez]

@Phee – What a totally annoying situation to be in. Some people just can’t take a hint. Sometimes there is no easy way to let someone down. If he keeps trying to text, just keep not replying. If he brings it up in person, you could just say you’re not interested in starting something. That is the most direct way since some people are just oblivious to the subtle hints most people pick up on.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[Slurpeez]

disregard

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

*reads Corbin’s post*
*Gives up on humanity*

Just listened to the podcast for the finale, and major props to RG for expressing her perspective. She said how uncharacteristic it was of Past Rumple to drink the forgetting potion after he learned his son had died. I couldn’t believe other fans were so accepting of that notion, since it totally flew in the face of Past Rumple for the first two entire seasons. *heads desk*

Thanks!!

RG, just finished listening to the podcast, and you’re my favourite, thanks for representing once again. *COOKIES*

mm…cookies

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Marty McFly]

I am trying hard to remember when Emma tried to save Neal.

am I missing something?

can some one help me? she tells Rumple that she tried to save him. when was that? when? what did I miss?

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