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May 17, 2014 at 9:49 am #270265
Ranisha Pitts
ParticipantThe fact they dance around Milha let’s me know that this was all BTSS and not at all story telling. If CS was in the plans from the beginning Milha would be brought up between Neal, Hook, and Rumple. That is dramatic gold.
I think MRJ might make a 1 or 2 cameos here and there they may even give Henry and ghost Neal some heart to heart talking. But that’s about it.
DSB I do not make a connection between Hook code name being Charles and Charlies girl at all. Charlies girl is still and will always be Nealfire. Hook better get his own darn song.
What Neal is Neal and what’s swanfire is swanfire, they need to go find their own symbolism.
[adrotate group="5"]"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
May 17, 2014 at 9:55 am #270267Ranisha Pitts
ParticipantThis is the way the story should have played out without The Great Lord Mouse interference.

http://omgwtfhedwig.tumblr.com/post/85973864117
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
May 17, 2014 at 10:00 am #270269Lauren
ParticipantMay 17, 2014 at 10:04 am #270270Rainbow
ParticipantMy opinion i think we wont see Neal again, and think MRJ doesnt want to return either, he is probably hurt by the network, the writers about this whole issue. He returned in 319 and 322 Ā bc he was obliged by contract until the end of this season, also since both epis were written by A/E i see them writing those scenes and MRJ filmed them on jan /fb when he was still in Van, for example the 322 scene, there was a day that MRJ said Ā he was having breakfast at work, so fits on that scene.
Can i say that after seing everything related to Sandra Oh leaving Grey`s, is a bit sad like the cast, network,prodution( cannot forget that they let some strangers won set to take pics on 316 funeral scenes) and even writers dealed with this, when a actor has to come justify the why his character dies and only after the creators came talk, that only means something really big happened. Ā I mean Greys didnt hide their sadness by sandra leaving, showed pics of her and she was present on the wrap party of greys, unlike MRJ that was not, even MC was there. So i see now MRJ not bounded by contract say No, to others fbs, and since in young bae although there is Ā many things to see, i wont think they will show it, unless is in a epi about hook, to show how he looked for bae in nvl and they made peace with each other, this can be use to show a parallelĀ about hook on SB with henry. Just that, i see them showing young bae , in order to show hook as a hero and suitor to emma.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
May 17, 2014 at 10:30 am #270272textbookone
ParticipantI was writing a meta the other day about why I can’t just make a clean break from OUAT, and then it turned into something that was almost funny, but then turned long and weird. Oops. Posting the long form here. May try to edit it down for Tumblr, but I’m not really sure what to do with it at this point. Sorry!
Breaking up is hard to do:
Let me tell you a story about a show that I thought was the love of my life.
I first heard about Once Upon a Time (letās call it OUAT for simplicityās sake) the summer before it came to town. Friends and other trusted sources had told me all sorts of things about OUAT and by the time it finally rolled into town in the fall of 2011 I couldnāt wait to meet them. First impressions gave off this feeling of hope and adventure that I hadnāt felt in years, so I thought, sure, OUAT and I can be friends. For all of the 2011-2012 season we had a weekly date and everything was cool.
OUAT and I had been friends for a year when everything started to change. Weād always been pretty close, possibly even considered best friends, but by that fall OUAT started showing me new parts of their personality, things that I couldnāt determine right away if they were good or bad, but just different. Itās hard to say if the things I saw as changes were actually new, or if they were just parts of their personality that they didnāt feel comfortable showing me until we had been friends for awhile. Sometimes they were sloppy and distracted by somewhat pointless tangents, but at their core they were still the OUAT I loved, so I stuck with them through good and bad.
By the winter of 2013 everything shifted again. Something that Iād seen back in the fall, but didnāt know what to make of it, came back in a big and dramatic way. For me it was an affirmation of purpose and destiny, and that OUAT had had a plan the entire time we had known each other, but only now were they willing to share with me this secret, this important moment filled with the emotion that I hadnāt really seen from them in awhile. What had started out as a casual friendship became bigger as we spent more and more time together, and I wanted to tell the world about our new love and the deepness of their soul.
OUAT had been making promises to me almost the entire time we had known each other. For that first year they were fairly consistent at following through, but in that second year they became more and more lax. At that point the story they spun to me was so beautiful and so deep, and I was so helplessly in love that I just clung to them, assuring myself that they would never lie to me like that. I just had to have hope and everything would turn out fine.
OUAT was the relationship I was deeply in love with, had committed myself to, and was willing to follow to the ends of the earth. Slowly, without realizing it fully, the relationship began to change around me, until one day my beau called it quits, āSorry babe, this just isnāt working out. Iād like to see other shippers now. Hope we can stay friends.ā I didnāt want to leave the relationship, I was never given a choice. Maybe things had been a rocky for a little bit, but I believed my OUAT loved me, and everything looked like it was promising me a happy ending if I just had faith and held on long enough, but then something changed, something outside of my control that has nothing to do with me, but Iām always going to wonder what I could have done to have made my OUAT stay.
My beloved OUAT broke up with me in 315, but I, like the hopelessly in love fool that I am stuck around (more or less) until the end of the season, hoping that maybe my love would change their mind, would realize how perfect we were together, and would apologize and come back to me. I waited and hoped, but instead I was heartbroken to see my OUAT and their new beau making out in front of me, as if I had never existed. Some of OUATās other friends (including their new beau) keep trying to tell me that OUAT never loved me, and I saw promises where there were none, but I will always believe we had a connection, which in part makes moving on so hard.
Iām still in the process of figuring out what my life is like without OUAT. I didnāt ask for this break up, so I was not prepared for it emotionally. Seeing that theyāve moved on already makes everything more real and more painful, and kind of makes me feel like I never really mattered to them in the first place. The hardest part is that OUAT introduced me to so many new things and people; art, fiction, communities of people whom I love very much. I donāt want to lose these things from my life, but in doing so it means I have to keep OUAT in my life in some form. While other people may be able to make clean breaks, I have too much love for the things OUAT has brought to my life, outside of the heartbreak. Iām already trying to cope with the emptiness of losing this special part of my life, I donāt know that Iām ready to walk away from everything completely. This hole already hurts too much, I donāt know that I can deal with the crater of losing everything else too. I donāt want to lose these wonderful friends, or this community, but what kind of relationship do I have to keep with OUAT in order to do so?
I will always love my OUAT. We had such a wonderful time together, even if it was shorter than I expected, and those happy memories are important to me. Maybe over time we can learn to be friends again, but right now everything is too fresh and painful to really know where we will stand again in the fall when they roll back into town. Maybe Iāll never know if OUAT really loved me, but I loved them, and despite myself I still do, no matter what anyone else says or interprets from my anger and bitterness over the last little while. Iām just going through a bad break up. Iāll let you know when Iām on the rebound.
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May 17, 2014 at 10:41 am #270273Ranisha Pitts
ParticipantVery nice metaphorical meta text, it really tells it like it is.
@Rainbow I think MRJ possible can come back for 1 to 2 flashbacks. But your right it depends how nasty or bad things went down behind the scenes."I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
May 17, 2014 at 10:43 am #270274Lauren
ParticipantMod? my posts aren’t working… i try to insert a youtube vid and it deletes my whole post :s
basically trying to put on Say something-A great big world
total swanfire feels so seen as the link aint working guys check it out and listen with swanfire ears šMay 17, 2014 at 10:56 am #270275lisas
ParticipantMod? my posts arenāt working⦠i try to insert a youtube vid and it deletes my whole post :s
basically trying to put on Say something-A great big world
total swanfire feels so seen as the link aint working guys check it out and listen with swanfire earsLauren and I are talking on Skype so here is the video to the song she shared with me at 5:30 this morning
May 17, 2014 at 11:30 am #270276Onyx
Participant@Sad Twin, That is quite beautiful. There’s all kinds of truth in there. VeryĀ accurate too.
Co-Mayor of Sad Town | Twin of Co-Mayor of Sad Town
May 17, 2014 at 11:34 am #270278RumplesGirl
KeymasterThis is the way the story should have played out without The Great Lord Mouse interference.

FOREVER HAVING FEELINGS OVER THIS!!!!! THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD HAVE GONE AND FRANKLY HOW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO!!
I was writing a meta the other day about why I canāt just make a clean break from OUAT, and then it turned into something that was almost funny, but then turned long and weird. Oops. Posting the long form here. May try to edit it down for Tumblr, but Iām not really sure what to do with it at this point. Sorry!
Love this!
Mod? my posts arenāt working⦠i try to insert a youtube vid and it deletes my whole post :s
basically trying to put on Say something-A great big world
total swanfire feels so seen as the link aint working guys check it out and listen with swanfire ears šHm. I’ll look into it
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