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November 12, 2013 at 8:36 pm #223356
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ParticipantThanks for the spoiler tags RG, was on my way to tag after it hit me that I didn’t!
[adrotate group="5"]Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.
November 12, 2013 at 8:48 pm #223357RumplesGirl
KeymasterI wonder if Wendy and Emma will have a talk without Neal. I think I’d like that. Also, does Hook know Wendy? We know that in 310 when they all get back to SB, Wendy is wearing Bae’s robe and the last time we saw it, the robe was on the JR with Bae.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 12, 2013 at 9:17 pm #223361katsqueak
ParticipantHello everyone! I found this board about a season ago and have loved the community respect and thoughtful conversations. This is my favorite thread and it has really been a calm place to go when I get frustrated at other sites and after I “see things”. I have loved Neal and Emma since Tallahassee and Manhattan is still my favorite episode. Love the comparison of Hook to Gaston! It will be hard not seeing him in that light every time I re-watch an episode, lol. Thank you guys for being the voices of sanity! I hope I get the courage to post more, but for now I just wanted to thank you guys for being here 🙂
November 12, 2013 at 9:24 pm #223363RumplesGirl
KeymasterHello everyone! I found this board about a season ago and have loved the community respect and thoughtful conversations. This is my favorite thread and it has really been a calm place to go when I get frustrated at other sites and after I “see things”. I have loved Neal and Emma since Tallahassee and Manhattan is still my favorite episode. Love the comparison of Hook to Gaston! It will be hard not seeing him in that light every time I re-watch an episode, lol. Thank you guys for being the voices of sanity! I hope I get the courage to post more, but for now I just wanted to thank you guys for being here
Welcome to the fun house! We love new people! 🙂 Feel free to stop by anytime. We got cookies and hot cocoa with cinnamon.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 12, 2013 at 9:33 pm #223365katsqueak
ParticipantThe hot cocoa and cookies sound wonderful. I’ll be here 🙂
November 12, 2013 at 9:33 pm #223366Slurpeez
ParticipantRumplesGirl wrote: I wonder if Wendy and Emma will have a talk without Neal. I think I’d like that. Also, does Hook know Wendy? We know that in 310 when they all get back to SB, Wendy is wearing Bae’s robe and the last time we saw it, the robe was on the JR with Bae.
I know a lot of people don’t want to consider this theory, but what if the “dirty work” that Pan had Hook do was capturing the Darling children? I know it sounds drastic, and that Hook is too heroic to do this….but it’s still in the realm of possibility. What would Hook do while in PP’s employee? I feel like this is going to be a big bombshell when we finally find out. They’ve been building up Hook as a “hero” who doesn’t use tricks….and yet, I can’t help feel they might be building him only to throw a wrench into Hook’s pursuit of Emma. This would put a very stark divide between Hook and Neal since Bae tried so hard to save them.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
November 12, 2013 at 9:37 pm #223368kfchimera
ParticipantKatsqueak: Welcome! *Cookies*
You know you ship Swanfire too hard when you dress up like this:
RG:
Thanks for the coding help, and *hugs*. I hope you got a laugh out of this picture to set your mood better from remembering things you’d rather not.
We all respond to different parts of this story, and that’s what amazes me. I really want to see some more of the lighter side of SF very soon.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
November 12, 2013 at 9:40 pm #223369RumplesGirl
KeymasterThat picture is awesome. LOL
We all respond to different parts of this story, and that’s what amazes me. I really want to see some more of the lighter side of SF very soon.
That’s one of the things I love most about SF. Even with all the hurt and pain they are able to still joke and be friends. They were never once enemies. There is history and hurt and issues, but through it all, they were still *them* when they came back together.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 12, 2013 at 9:58 pm #223370kfchimera
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It’s a slow warm up but it’s happening. They are so on the same page.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
November 12, 2013 at 10:06 pm #223371Phee
ParticipantThe same with the history of Bae and Hook. 300 years ago in the story or not, those events were played out on screen for a reason and just as relevant to Hook and Neal as other backstory. Are we supposed to dismiss Hook’s past as a man of honor? CS fans do not think so yet they say forget Milah and forget Bae. If these events are addressed on screen, then we can see Emma react to them rather than fans assumptions of how she might feel, get her reaction on the quality of the characters of Hook and Neal.
Dear God yes, we need some CANON Emma reactions to all of this so the conflicting speculations about her reaction to it all can be put to rest. Current actions don’t just erase past actions. The same people who would love to say that the details of Hook’s past actions aren’t relevant to present day, would also say that the details of Neal’s past actions are why he shouldn’t be with Emma in present day. Double standard much.
We don’t know if Neal kept the swan key chain
I will actually cry if he didn’t keep the keychain. Of course, I’ll also cry if he DID keep the keychain. So basically, I need to buy some Kleenex.
I think that might be a good bet. We still don’t know what Hook was doing for PP, but PP called it “his dirty work.” And then there is whole, “I gave a young boy to the lost ones,…sorta like how your son was kidnapped in a similar fashion. After I had promised him a family.” But Neal’s other story is “I saved a young boy from the shadow we have in our coconut because they took me in and loved me and it was the least I could do”
With the promo pics for 308, I am quite desperately hoping that Emma’s gonna learn the full truth about everything to do with Neal’s life. Emma needs to know that he had a family with the Darlings, and that he sacrificed himself to keep them safe from the Shadow, and that’s how he ended up in NL. The flow on from her learning that, SHOULD be that she learns how Hook fished him out of the water, and had him stay on the JR for a little while, before he sold him out to someone Hook himself has labeled as a demon. It’s great that he’s now helping to save Henry from that same demon, but that doesn’t erase the fact that he handed Bae directly over to him, and we now know that Hook knew that Pan was a treacherous little so and so back when he was still Killian, so we can’t say that Hook was oblivious about who he was handing Bae over to. And if Emma’s gonna learn about all of that, then she’ll also have to learn the truth of who Milah was, because Milah’s the reason that CaptainFire had the fight that led to Bae leaving the ship. If all of that truth doesn’t come out in the very near future, I’m gonna be seriously disappointed.
I don’t know if she would stare at him and think he would be a great father to Henry but he might be fun in Vegas.”
NL = Vegas. And you know what they say about what happens in Vegas. I hope that’s the reason they’re doing this triangle mess while they’re in NL, because it’s a land where everything, especially emotions, are wonky. The only way I can see CS continuing to interact post-NL without it being incredibly awkward (and we do know they’ll be interacting, to the point where she’s giving him a lift in her car) is if they can say, “So, NL was a real trip huh.”
I know a lot of people don’t want to consider this theory, but what if the “dirty work” that Pan had Hook do was capturing the Darling children? This would put a very stark divide between Hook and Neal since Bae tried so hard to save them.
It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Hook had something to do with the Darlings ending up as Pan’s prisoners.
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