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Agreed. Emma could have very easily shot down Neal or declared that she had stopped loving him and boom. Done. But no, the episodes repeat the same theme: they still love each other and always will.
If they wanted to put a nail in the SF coffin they could have actually had her secret have been the kiss, and that she had feelings for Hook. But they didn’t. Instead they had her secret be about the conflict she feels over loving Neal, which quite clearly showed that she and Hook are not on the same page in regards to what that kiss meant.
This is why I think the CS hook-up had to happen in NL, when Emma’s inhibitions are lowered and her emotions are all over the place. I think NL was like a week at Vegas, and even after 3×7 you could tell Emma was regretful about leading Hook on. What seemed like something more was really just a kiss to Emma. I think she regrets ever kissing him because it has only served as a major distraction from the mission of saving Henry.
Don’t remember where I saw this comment, was somewhere on tumblr, but someone said that maybe the reason she’s suddenly wearing a turtleneck in the next ep is because she’s actively trying to cover up the goods in response to Hook’s advances and she doesn’t want him getting any more ideas and doesn’t want the distraction of him being distracted any more. Of course, it could also just be that it gets chilly, or that they wanted her wearing black for aesthetic purposes for the scene with Regina, or it may even be to symbolise her joining forces with dark magic again. But it is a pretty drastic costume change to go from tank top with lots of bare skin, to a turtleneck.
[adrotate group="5"]The actress said it was really cold that day. Of course it was a black turtleneck, so aesthetically they could be trying to hint at darkness/Regina magic scene.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Since it has been suggested that Neal took on some of Rumple’s traits this season (eg, using Roland as bait to get to Henry), do we think Neal may take on his father’s methods of dealing with potential love rivals? Rumple turned Gaston into a rose, Beat Keith with his cane (though that’s because he was trying to take advantage of Belle even though Lacey didn’t realise it) and floored Whale for “Looking” at Lacey.
Would Neal be tempted to turn Hook into a flower or a hanging basket? Into a snail?
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixThe actress said it was really cold that day.
In the indoor studio that’s no doubt temp controlled and has been at the same temp every day they’ve been shooting? LOL If they were shooting outside, then I’d buy that explanation, but haven’t they been shooting all the jungle and cave scenes indoors?
Would Neal be tempted to turn Hook into a flower or a hanging basket? Into a snail?
I would be incredibly surprised if that happened. Neal has always been appalled by the way his father would harm and/or kill people. The thing with Roland was a carefully considered plan, with safety measures in place to ensure no harm befell the kid. If there had been a risk of the Shadow going back for Roland later, I daresay we’d have seen it by now, considering they’ve just captured the Shadow. So whatever people wanna speculate about Neal’s actions with that, as far as canon goes, it’s looking pretty likely that his plan didn’t result in any harm to Roland.
Neal wants to be a good father to Henry. Neal knows what he went through when his own father hurt people. Neal would not put his own son through what he went through. Not that Neal would have the magical ability to turn people into roses or snails anyway, even if he wanted to.
Apart from not wanting his actions to hurt Henry, he also wouldn’t want his actions to hurt Emma, and she certainly wouldn’t approve of him offing Hook. He’s currently trying to keep himself in line, not always easy when Hook’s there trying to poke the hornet’s nest, but after he’d acted like an immature child, Neal owned up to it and apologised, because he recognises that at the end of the day, Emma’s own wants are what matters when it comes to her heart, and it’s not his place to put pressure on her, especially not when they have a child to save. When he said, “If he’s the only thing that came from us being together, then I’d say we did alright,” I believe he was being sincere, and he’s not gonna push things with her. It’s that old cliche of if you love someone, set them free, and if they come back it was meant to be, if not then they were never really yours. I think that’s the rule that Neal wants to play by right now, and it might not always be easy, especially with Hook right there with them 24/7, coming onto Emma any chance he gets, but I think he’s gonna stick with it, (and I think it’s eventually gonna pay off).
I think the only thing that would make Neal even consider harming Hook, would be if Hook harmed Emma.
Since it has been suggested that Neal took on some of Rumple’s traits this season (eg, using Roland as bait to get to Henry)
I would be incredibly surprised if that happened. Neal has always been appalled by the way his father would harm and/or kill people. The thing with Roland was a carefully considered plan, with safety measures in place to ensure no harm befell the kid. If there had been a risk of the Shadow going back for Roland later, I daresay we’d have seen it by now, considering they’ve just captured the Shadow. So whatever people wanna speculate about Neal’s actions with that, as far as canon goes, it’s looking pretty likely that his plan didn’t result in any harm to Roland.
Also, turns out the shadow isn’t THAT scary if it can be captured in a coconut with a candle. I mean, that’s all we needed to rid ourselves of the big scary shadow? Terrifying! 303 made the shadow appear much more horrifying that it actually turned out to be. And like Phee said, it was carefully planned out. Mulan was there in her infinite awesomeness. As was RH and Little John. And literally the next scene at the Dark One’s castle is Roland sleeping peacefully under the same window, RH telling Mulan that everything is perfectly fine and that there wasn’t a scratch on him.
Do you know what that scene in 303 DID show? That Henry comes first to Neal. His family comes first in his mind and heart. All he has is his boy and the idea of a second chance with Emma. Of the two men, so far, Neal is the only one who’s interest aligns with Emma.
I think the only thing that would make Neal even consider harming Hook, would be if Hook harmed Emma.
He wouldn’t even hurt the Lost Boys! He flat out tells Rumple in 304, “no killing the lost boys”
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Regarding the sweater, JMo did say at one point during one of her live tweet sessions that they had to add the sweater because it was really cold one day so I’m thinking some shots from the show this weekend may have actually been outdoors. Maybe some scenes on the beach were filmed outside? I don’t know. I doubt she would say something like that if there was a different reason for it. Emma was wearing a sweater when they set sail at the end of last season and the sweater this weekend looks like the same one. I’m at work so I can’t check for pictures or screen shots but I’m guessing it’s the same sweater from ASOTM. “Hey mom, can you carry my sweater around in your backpack? I need to show off my buff arms for a while to make sure people know not to mess with me. K thanks.” 😆
Is it Sunday yet?! I’m seriously so anxious for this episode. I want hero Neal darn it! 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
#MoreBOOMLessGloomSince it has been suggested that Neal took on some of Rumple’s traits this season (eg, using Roland as bait to get to Henry), do we think Neal may take on his father’s methods of dealing with potential love rivals? Rumple turned Gaston into a rose, Beat Keith with his cane (though that’s because he was trying to take advantage of Belle even though Lacey didn’t realise it) and floored Whale for “Looking” at Lacey. Would Neal be tempted to turn Hook into a flower or a hanging basket? Into a snail?
I had another thought to add to this from my previous response.
Neal may have used Roland but Regina, with Emma’s permission in helping to hold back Snow, used a Lost Boy’s heart, ripping it out turning him essentially into a slave. It’s not that Emma and Neal are “going dark” but rather it’s the same theme that has been shown on this show since the beginning. Desperate Souls do desperate things. And when those desperate souls are doing it in the name of their children, there is literally nothing they won’t do.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think Regina suddenly gets a coat too, maybe a different part of the island is colder? Even if they temperature control the studio, it might be built like a large warehouse so if there is a sudden change, the temperature inside can get cold until the heat can catch up. That happens in my house so I can only imagine a large studio.
It might be also symbolic that she is less vulnerable, or darker.
PoM the people who suggest that Neal is “acting like Rumple” about the shadow are off-base as RG pointed out, and oddly they miss the good ways Rumple acts where one can draw comparisons too Look at how Neal is understanding Emma’s feelings. If he is acting like Rumple it is the side that loves and appreciates the woman he loves awesomeness, that realizes the strength and confidence she brings him through her love even if they are apart, even when he doubted he would ever be good enough for her and may still doubt it.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
For all your feelings needs this morning, my dear shipmates
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Neal may have used Roland but Regina, with Emma’s permission in helping to hold back Snow, used a Lost Boy’s heart, ripping it out turning him essentially into a slave. It’s not that Emma and Neal are “going dark” but rather it’s the same theme that has been shown on this show since the beginning. Desperate Souls do desperate things. And when those desperate souls are doing it in the name of their children, there is literally nothing they won’t do.
One of the running themes since the beginning of S1 that Rumple posed is “how far are you willing to go?” in order to help your children. Snow and Charming were willing to send their newborn baby through a portal to an unknown land in a last-ditch effort to save her so she could save them. Geppetto sent his 7-year-old child through a portal to look after the savior, rather than the savior’s mother, in order to save his son from becoming a wooden puppet again. Rumple created a dark curse to locate his son. Jefferson risked going to WL for money to give Grace a better life. Moe wanted to erase Belle’s memories rather than see her imprisoned by Rumple (he obviously didn’t’ know the details). Regina was willing to die to save Henry in 2×22. Ruth was willing to die rather than drink the last drop of water from Lake Nostos so that Snow would one day give birth to Charming’s child. Also, Granny was willing to face the angry peasants after Ruby ate her boyfriend in order to let Ruby run away. And as RG pointed out, Emma was willing for Regina to use dark magic to take a lost boy’s heart to get a message to Henry.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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