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I agree Slurpeez and Ranisha. I don’t want to see it play out quite like that RG, but it could.
I don’t like the idea but if they’re just writing based on what fans want to see, what’s next, she tells Pan that he’s her best friend because thanks to him she realized what she needs is another baby because she’s missed out on all the fun years with Henry the same way Snow did with her? I know that’s overstating it but really if they keep up with this kind of let’s please the fans, that’s what we would have, because fans love to rag on Henry too. They also love Pan.
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I agree Slurpeez and Ranisha. I don’t want to see it play out quite like that RG, but it could. I don’t like the idea but if they’re just writing based on what fans want to see, what’s next, she tells Pan that he’s her best friend because thanks to him she realized what she needs is another baby because she’s missed out on all the fun years with Henry the same way Snow did with her? I know that’s overstating it but really if they keep up with this kind of let’s please the fans, that’s what we would have, because fans love to rag on Henry too. They also love Pan.
True. But I think they need to resolve the triangle for sure by the end of the season. And the only way to do that, at least in my view, is let the “non winning” ship be shown why it can’t be endgame. And the only way to do that, short of TLK, is to let Emma try to be with that guy.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"True. But I think they need to resolve the triangle for sure by the end of the season. And the only way to do that, at least in my view, is let the “non winning” ship be shown why it can’t be endgame. And the only way to do that, short of TLK, is to let Emma try to be with that guy.
I don’t want CS to drag on for all of S3. If they are going to go on a few dates, I want a nice break-up by no later than 3×13 with a clear pro-SF theme for 3×14, the anniversary of “Manhattan.” What can I say? I’m an eternal dreamer? I want the CS story to be neatly resolved so that SF can start to rebuild their relationship by the end of S3. I think it’s safe to say that if OUAT is only going to be 4 seasons long, then it makes the most sense for whichever ‘ship is “endgame” to start to pull ahead by the end of S3.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
RumplesGirl wrote: True. But I think they need to resolve the triangle for sure by the end of the season. And the only way to do that, at least in my view, is let the “non winning” ship be shown why it can’t be endgame. And the only way to do that, short of TLK, is to let Emma try to be with that guy.
I don’t want CS to drag on for all of S3. If they are going to go on a few dates, I want a nice break-up by no later than 3×13 with a clear pro-SF theme for 3×14, the anniversary of “Manhattan.” I want the CS story to be neatly resolved so that SF can start to rebuild their relationship by the end of S3. I think it’s safe to say that if OUAT is only going to be 4 seasons long, then it makes the most sense for whichever ‘ship is “endgame” to start to pull ahead by the end of S3.
Oh I don’t think whatever ship is up first will last long. 3×14 makes perfect sense to me as well.
As for # of seasons…well. Who is to say? If ratings hold where they are right now for the second half of 3 and then for 4 we might get a fifth. I never envisioned it going beyond 5 but it’s up to ABC and if they have anything better for one of their notoriously hard nights.
My prediction is still whatever ship comes “first” when they get back to SB isn’t endgame. It’s just TV triangle resolution.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I agree I actually think they will do CS romance to show why it won’t work and how its not true love. Plus I think Emma needs to explore things first otherwise she will second guess. And once she does it, she is like this is not it, I had love and this is not it.
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I was just re-reading this interview from MRJ from Oct. 2013. I get the impression that no one is a bigger Nealfire/Swanfire fan than he is.
Assuming the theoretical notion that Neal does make it to Neverland, will he take kindly to the notion that Captain Hook, who Baelfire knew when he was a young boy, is now putting the moves on Emma? “Look. I don’t think Neal is under any kind of illusions that there isn’t work to be done between he and Emma,” he says, “and that he doesn’t have a lot of work to do to get to where he wants to be, in terms of their relationship. He’s not expecting her to just be waiting around, pining,” he tells us. With that said, though, he does see Neal’s recent acknowledgement of his feelings — and his desire for family — to be a driving force.
“I think that’s his journey,” Michael says. “Since he was a little boy at age 13 and his father let him go down the portal, he’s been kind of a loner, and had to make himself a life in these strange worlds, but he never fit in to any place. So that’s always been his thing; to try to cobble together a sense of family, a sense of belonging, a sense of ‘this is where I’m supposed to be in the world.’ Ever since then. And as such, following one’s heart in that way, there’s gonna be missteps along the way, but I think at this moment, he’s never had the kind of clarity that he has right now. Being a father is the most important thing to him, and just having been able to admit these feelings to the woman that I love, and have them reciprocated… it gives a laser sense of clarity. For the first time, he really knows exactly where he needs to go and what he needs to do to get there. He hasn’t had that before. He’s always been drifting, trying to make a life.”
Neal’s journey, says MRJ, is about finding his family, and that being a dad gives him a sense of belonging and purpose he’s always been seeking. His feelings of love for Emma also illuminates his thoughts, as Rumple would say, and bring him clarity about getting back Henry and Emma. Neal said he *needed* his boy and Emma. If Neal doesn’t get his second chance at a family because of a one-handed pirate with a drinking problem who took his mother.…it would be the unhappiest of endings ever in the history of fairytales. I refuse to believe Adam and Eddy would take Neal on such a heartbreakingly long journey only to leave him out in the cold or give him an an-hock alternative ending. Neal and Emma were destined for one another. Their love is true love, because it shows people can overcome anything, be it supernatural curses or realistic pain, to find one another agin in an otherwise cruel world.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Neal’s journey, says MRJ, is about finding his family, and that being a dad gives him a sense of belonging and purpose he’s always been seeking. His feelings of love for Emma also illuminate his thoughts, as Rumple would say, and bring him clarity about getting back Henry and Emma. Neal said he *needed* his boy and Emma. If Neal doesn’t get his second chance at a family because of a one-handed pirate with a drinking problem who took his mother …it would be the most unhappiest of endings ever in the history of fairytales. I refuse to believe Adam and Eddy would take Neal on such a heartbreakingly long journey only to leave him out in the cold or give him an an-hock alternative ending. Neal and Emma were destined for one another. Their love is true love, because it shows people can overcome anything, be it supernatural curses or realistic pain, to find one another agin in an otherwise cruel world.
In a lot of ways ONCE is the story of Emma and Neal, individually I mean. She’s the savior who would break the Curse. He’s the reason for the Curse. The whole show was built on the idea of the Curse and bringing back the happy endings. I don’t think Emma’s happy ending is with Hook because they don’t want the same things. Even before he was a pirate, he was a naval officer who loved sailing the high seas. I cant see him giving that up to play house. And Emma’s not about to leave her family. As she said in the sneak peek for 308 family means being together. She wants family not just romance. Family defines Emma Swan. And it defines Nealfire too.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Neal’s journey, says MRJ, is about finding his family, and that being a dad gives him a sense of belonging and purpose he’s always been seeking. His feelings of love for Emma also illuminate his thoughts, as Rumple would say, and bring him clarity about getting back Henry and Emma. Neal said he *needed* his boy and Emma. If Neal doesn’t get his second chance at a family because of a one-handed pirate with a drinking problem who took his mother …it would be the most unhappiest of endings ever in the history of fairytales. I refuse to believe Adam and Eddy would take Neal on such a heartbreakingly long journey only to leave him out in the cold or give him an an-hock alternative ending. Neal and Emma were destined for one another. Their love is true love, because it shows people can overcome anything, be it supernatural curses or realistic pain, to find one another agin in an otherwise cruel world.
In a lot of ways ONCE is the story of Emma and Neal, individually I mean. She’s the savior who would break the Curse. He’s the reason for the Curse. The whole show was built on the idea of the Curse and bringing back the happy endings. I don’t think Emma’s happy ending is with Hook because they don’t want the same things. Even before he was a pirate, he was a naval officer who loved sailing the high seas. I cant see him giving that up to play house. And Emma’s not about to leave her family. As she said in the sneak peek for 308 family means being together. She wants family not just romance. Family defines Emma Swan. And it defines Nealfire too.
I have to agree with both Slurpeez & RG I think we can pretty much guarantee that SwanFire is Endgame. If you really think about it Once Upon A Time is definitely the love story of Emma & Neal(BaelFire) and their son.
Keeper of Neal/BaelFire's Blood Magic, Neverland Crossbow, FTL Clothes,Room at Granny’s, Charming & Emma’s Father/Daughter Hugs, Henry's Neverland Crossbow, Rumplestlitskin/Mr.Gold's FTL Walking StickSwanfire is about Hope, and we will keep hope burning! All you need is spark to rekindle the flames.
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