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heatherc1275 wrote: Count me as another who LOVED when Neal told his father that he wasn’t making any more deals…he was going to help Emma’s father because it was the right thing to do. I did see Emma’s face during that part and she looked surprised and overwhelmed by Neal standing up to his papa that way. GO NEAL!!!
“You’re gonna do it because it’s the right thing to do.” NEALFIRE. <3 [/quote]
Nealfire wins at life. Seriously. <3 😀
BTW-I freaking love MRJ more and more every day. I was following his tweets tonight and they were all so great and funny.I love the FireThieves nickname and his comment about being an arsonist was HILARIOUS. I'm never going to spell that nickname right though. It's i before e except after c?! I think that's right anyway, LOL 😉 He did mention that his two favorite charities are Make*a*Wish and St. Jude's which I thought was fantastic and really sweet. He's such a super person and it kills me that ABC doesn't seem to realize what a jewel they have in him. That needs to change soon. Seriously.
I use the world seriously way too much. Can you tell I've religiously watched Grey's Anatomy since the pilot episode??! LOL 😆
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#MoreBOOMLessGloomIt was definitely not romance heavy but Neal was shown in a very good light all the same. I loved that moment when Neal is like no deals, you will help because it is the right thing to do. Go go Hero Neal. Hook’s brief scene just set up that Emma thinks of Hook as a source of information, that he told her about his brother, and the poison. Up until now she had to rely on his knowledge, but his knowledge is perhaps not so broad or deep as he implied. Yet no hint that as yet she understands the twisty connections between him and Neal, or the Darlings and Neal, but most of all Pan.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Count me as another who LOVED when Neal told his father that he wasn’t making any more deals…he was going to help Emma’s father because it was the right thing to do. I did see Emma’s face during that part and she looked surprised and overwhelmed by Neal standing up to his papa that way. GO NEAL!!!
“You’re gonna do it because it’s the right thing to do.”
NEALFIRE. <3
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I just loved Neal in this ep. He's pretty much lost faith in his old man, but standing up to him like that he was giving him an eleventy frillionth chance to make the right choice and turn it around. Neal's trying to do better himself, to make up for his own mistakes, and he's also still standing strong for the sake of his father's soul at the same time too.heatherc1275 wrote: Count me as another who LOVED when Neal told his father that he wasn’t making any more deals…he was going to help Emma’s father because it was the right thing to do. I did see Emma’s face during that part and she looked surprised and overwhelmed by Neal standing up to his papa that way. GO NEAL!!!
“You’re gonna do it because it’s the right thing to do.” NEALFIRE. <3
I just loved Neal in this ep. He’s pretty much lost faith in his old man, but standing up to him like that he was giving him an eleventy frillionth chance to make the right choice and turn it around. Neal’s trying to do better himself, to make up for his own mistakes, and he’s also still standing strong for the sake of his father’s soul at the same time too.
Yeah, Neal was a rock star in tonight’s episode and I freaking loved it. 🙂
BTW-I think tonight marked another first for OUAT….Henry called Neal ‘dad’ out loud to him for the first time!!!! That made the heart thing with Pan that much sadder for me. 🙁
#MoreBOOMLessGloomBTW-I think tonight marked another first for OUAT….Henry called Neal ‘dad’ out loud to him for the first time!!!! That made the heart thing with Pan that much sadder for me. 🙁
I was screaming YES! when Henry called Neal “dad” just like that. It was so heartwarming to hear him say that. Also that made Nealfire smile. Ugh, stupid Pan! He really is cold blooded to try and kill off his own great grandson and kidnap his grandson, and abandon his own son. The man-child is sick!!!!
But I gotta say Henry wasn’t the brightest in this episode. They kinda downgraded his character when he’s normally such a smart kid. WHY Henry??? WHY??? Your parents said they love you and believe in you. 🙁
Just finished my rewatch. The light that shoots out when Henry puts his heart into Pan was the TL rainbow, was it? The same one when Charming woke Snow, or when Emma used her own heart to repel Cora back in 209? (Am I reading too much into this….)
Hook’s brief scene just set up that Emma thinks of Hook as a source of information, that he told her about his brother, and the poison. Up until now she had to rely on his knowledge, but his knowledge is perhaps not so broad or deep as he implied. Yet no hint that as yet she understands the twisty connections between him and Neal, or the Darlings and Neal, but most of all Pan.
I love this. Emma turns to Hook because she thinks he has the most information–he has led them to Tink, to Bae’s cave, he saved David at Dead Man’s Peak and he knew what the echo caves are. He’s a source of information to get her child back. But yet, she isn’t asking the questions about his own history with PP (which she should given that she grew up in our world wtih Disney)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Aw, you’re right Heather! That was a sweet moment, and I’m not sure if it is sad or not that Neal didn’t realize that his grandad trapped his dad moments before! If anyone has a messed up life, it is poor Neal. Emma’s grandma gave her life so Emma could be born, meanwhile, Neal’s grandpa tried to steal his son’s life!
I also noticed that Henry had to take out his own heart, that Pan had to CONVINCE him to do it. Now, it was a neat dodge on the whole “heart can’t be taken ” question of true love, and his heart had a golden glow to it. I figured they’d side step it. They don’t want to reveal anything about Emma’s romantic true love yet, so they didn’t shoot down SF (but am sure people will claim otherwise). In my mind, the reason Pan, who as we saw is corrupt with no limits more or less, would have ripped out Henry’s heart himself if he could have done, so I think he could not. Henry had to give it, and whether Emma’s heart could not be ripped by Cora b/c Emma was sacrificing herself (the stepping in front of intended target) or innate because of TL, we don’t actually know. So I don’t even know if true that TL= no hearts taken, but even if so, this situation seemed different as Henry’s heart was not taken, it was given.
Phee: I loved that moment when he got her back too, and how he believes in her, and knows how tough she is, but was still concerned.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
I know we’d been hoping for more Emma reaction to the DarlingFire reunion, but this right here, what Wendy said to Neal, it’s the same reason that Neal let Emma go, and Emma was right there to witness this conversation.
http://emmaaswans.tumblr.com/post/67324438778You’re gonna do it because it’s the right thing to do.” NEALFIRE. <3[/quote]
To me, that is the biggest difference between SF and CS. Neal isn't looking to get a kiss out of helping Charming like Hook did. Neal's just doing it because it's the right thing to do. That's what real nobility is.
[quote=224630]BTW-I think tonight marked another first for OUAT….Henry called Neal ‘dad’ out loud to him for the first time!!!! That made the heart thing with Pan that much sadder for me.[/quote] Best moment!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I don’t know if the writers are saving it, or its just more “who cares, audience already knows” stuff or cut for time. Either way, while I did love the Rumple/pan stuff, I felt like maybe they could have skipped the exposition somewhere to get in a line from Wendy about how Bae gave up everything for them. I also would have liked a line from Regina to Neal about how she’s glad for Henry’s sake he isn’t dead after all, or SOMETHING. It would have shown growth for her, really that she stopped thinking of everyone else as competition. Incidentally, the name #FireThieves won for twitter, not my favorite but hey, at least it is a “hot” name anyway you slice it. (Something stolen is hot property right?). I guess I’ll warm up to it. I’m curious about Rumple’s mother, and why those spinsters took him in, and why they’d give him the bean. I’m wondering if his mother was a fairy, and they are too–the 3 fairies from the Sleeping Beauty Tale,were Blue, Green and Red (Nova was Pink though, but she was in training). Tink ‘s age is a problem as the actress said 100 years but she might have just not have meant it accurately, just “older than she looks”. What if the missing Red one was grandma so our “fairies fell in love and it is BAD idea ” theory is still true?I might tease that out on the general thread on the Spinsters too. I mention it here though, because it’s just one more thing about Neal too, as well as Rumple, potentially if they have fairy magic inherently in them (despite what Rumple said). Of course I still liked TinkerMomma with Belle…so not sure I want some fairy-relations there!
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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