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November 18, 2013 at 3:25 pm #224808
kfchimera
ParticipantI think that fits so well Heather! I think what resonates to me in this story is that it is about two people accepting and understanding each other’s flaws but also bringing out the best.It could be written in CS too, but not without addressing Hook’s past behavior, or continuing to hold him in high regard because he exceeds the low standards of behavior expected of a a pirate, rather than the high standards for a true man of honor, not one with a convenient code that shifts to justify what he wants to do at the time.
Slurpeez108 wrote: I think that Regina ought to have a heart-to-heart with Emma about realizing what a good man she has in Neal because it’s so incredibly rare to get a second chance at love.
That would be *lovely* If not in the first 11, then maybe the second half. Going back to 306, EQ Regina tells Ariel that there are no second chances but clearly this whole season is about them. I think Regina is going to realize in the back half that she is getting a second chance and maybe she’ll talk to Emma about it. Don’t deny your feelings for Neal just because you have anger over the past. Regina understands that; if she let go of the past, she’d float away and have nothing to ground her but it also means she had to take a chance on her happiness. In a lot of ways, Emma’s anger and fear over Neal are keeping her from floating away like Regina. If she can learn more about Neal and his past and their past, she might come to realize that she wants a second chance with Neal.
Oh I would love that too.
I was thinking if they did reveal Neal as a destined magical TL for Emma, then I would want Neal to step back and say to Emma it does not mean he owns her heart still. I see why people feel Emma should be free of fate/control her destiny but as we discussed, PP like Rumple may have taken advantage of their love but he could not force it. Emma needs to accept it and be shown having this realization in a way that does not look like people “pushing her” to Neal but rather reducing her fears that keep her from understanding her own heart. It is such a subtle but important difference but I think a lot of people get put off by the idea that Neal was somehow forced on Emma by Rumple/Henry/Snow, especially those who believe with full conviction that she longs for Hook. First they need to show us she does not long for Hook, and Emma might have the opposite reaction were Regina to advise her to seek out Neal specifically.
Nice song choice Heather.
[adrotate group="5"]“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
November 18, 2013 at 3:34 pm #224811RumplesGirl
KeymasterSo I wanted to address the tweet circulating around the web today concerning the supposed reassuring romantic CS hug I responded to it in the Filming thread but wanted to do it here too.
According to VCF, Emma and Hook had a reassuring romantic hug on set today. First off, what does that even mean? How is any sort of reassuring hug romantic? Second, how would VCF know anything about what a hug is supposed to mean when he’s shooting from several feet away and cannot hear dialogue and does not know context. Third, VCF knows how to play the game. I can’t emphasis that enough. This is a game to these guys. Get me followers. Lately VCF has only been putting out photos, ect when he gets enough viewers on Twitter. He’s promoting himself (god bless capitalism) and he is selling a product namely his website by honing in on certain demographics. Let’s not have any kind of meltdown over a hug. Neal and Emma hug too. And for all we know, this isn’t Emma and Hook hugging so much as Colin and JMo hugging
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 18, 2013 at 3:45 pm #224815heatherc1275
Participant*comes out of work lurk again*
I’ve said it once before and I am not afraid to say it again: VCF is nothing but a troublemaking attention getter and there’s a reason I don’t follow him on Twitter or anywhere else. It’s one thing to provide fun information for people about the show but it’s another to be causing trouble in the fandom by only posting things when you get enough people to ‘like’ it or something you know will please one fanbase over another and cause friction. Annoying doesn’t even begin to describe it for me. Grrr…
*back into lurk mode now*

#MoreBOOMLessGloomNovember 18, 2013 at 3:48 pm #224818RumplesGirl
KeymasterKFC and Tiara_Rose came up with an interesting NYC theory if you want to read it: https://oncepodcast.com/forums/topic/nyc-theory/#post-224813
the hug only be Hook reassuring Emma that they’ll get Neal back
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 18, 2013 at 4:14 pm #224826kfchimera
ParticipantYes Rg on that spoiler remember people would think Emma is marrying Hook if she is wearing white in a scene with him, think someone thought she was meeting a justice of the peace to elope with hook lol (You’ do that at City Hall anyway, not the police station)….
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
November 18, 2013 at 5:25 pm #224864Slurpeez
ParticipantConcerning the spoiler images for 3×12, we need to remember that context is really important. Here’s a tweet from Adam which might cheer you up.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
November 18, 2013 at 6:17 pm #224880RumplesGirl
KeymasterPlease save us all from rampant speculation.
I love theory. I do. It’s what we do here and we do it well. But oh lord give me strength to endure 3 months of this triangle speculation.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 18, 2013 at 6:45 pm #224885RumplesGirl
KeymasterLast GIF. Emma’s face. Air is needed.
Also, the comment from the Tumblr page
Here we see who really will save David. And the responsible for this will be Neal, not Hook. Hook “saved” him, but as CONSEQUENCE David would have to get stuck in Neverland.
Rumple says he knows a way to save David, so he does not need to get stuck in Neverland. Emma then asks what is the price of it, and Rumple soon comes to the history of favors.
And then Neal decides that no. Rumple will have to save Emma’s father because it is the right thing to do. And he does not want it to be like a deal or as an exchange of favors. He does not want Emma’s family suffers more CONSEQUENCES. He didn’t asked Emma for a kiss like thanks, because he did it only because it is the right thing to do. Was a genuine good act.
At the end of the day, the hero will be who really deserves: Neal
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 18, 2013 at 7:14 pm #224895lunatiger
ParticipantI can never seem to keep up with the boards… you guys move so fast! Anyhoo…last nights episode was occupying my mind all day, couldn’t work or think straight in my cubicle. @_@
Don’t know if this was posted yet….but I’m happy that Jared is still a fan of Swanfire from his tweet last night!!! I’m still waiting for the writers to do a “Parent Trap” episode for Henry (assuming his survives 😉 )As long as his dad is still alive and single he will want to get his parents back together!
https://twitter.com/Jared_Gilmore/status/402273257832730624
Argh…ok does anyone know how to embed? Sorry, I’m not that tech savvy when it comes to these things
Edit: **Ok finally got it to work. Thanks kfchimera! 🙂
November 18, 2013 at 10:50 pm #224957Slurpeez
ParticipantI found a really well-written essay on the topic of SF. It is lovely!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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